Possible Bug with apple quarantine
Jeremy Knope
to the applications. Basically I and maybe a few others have noticed
a quarantine warning coming up for Firefox 3's growlRegDict file
that's being created in the temp directory.
Looks like this
http://skitch.com/jerome/p69a/firefox-growl-annoyance
I just verified if it was Growl that creates this file, looks like
within
+ (BOOL) _launchGrowlIfInstalledWithRegistrationDictionary:
(NSDictionary *)regDict
so anyway, the deal is Firefox is labeled as being in quarantine, so
that any file it downloads gets that warning on opening, even though
firefox itself is not writing this file, but it's being written by
Growl.framework within Firefox.
Is there a proper way to manage this problem, or should growl make
sure it's files don't go into quarantine. I was talking to one of the
Firefox developers that worked on the growl support in hopes to find a
solution.
Thanks all!
Peter Hosey
> Basically I and maybe a few others have noticed a quarantine warning
> coming up for Firefox 3's growlRegDict file that's being created in
> the temp directory.
>
> Looks like this
> http://skitch.com/jerome/p69a/firefox-growl-annoyance
>
> I just verified if it was Growl that creates this file, looks like
> within
> + (BOOL) _launchGrowlIfInstalledWithRegistrationDictionary:
> (NSDictionary *)regDict
More precisely, it's the Growl *framework* that creates the file.
> so anyway, the deal is Firefox is labeled as being in quarantine, so
> that any file it downloads gets that warning on opening, even though
> firefox itself is not writing this file, but it's being written by
> Growl.framework within Firefox.
Which, as far as the OS is concerned, is Firefox writing the file.
Here's what I find weird, though: The Growl framework does not
*download* the dictionary. It simply writes out from what it gets from
the application's Growl delegate (or from the .growlRegDict file
inside the application, if there were one).
Were you running Firefox from the disk image?
> Is there a proper way to manage this problem, or should growl make
> sure it's files don't go into quarantine.
There's nothing Growl (i.e., GrowlHelperApp) can do about it, because
Launch Services has not passed the file to it yet.
The Growl framework could, theoretically, strip the quarantine
information from the file before opening it, but I don't know whether
that would actually work (it would make sense for File Manager to lie
to us in that case—“yeah, I stripped it for you *fingers crossed
behind back*”), and it's definitely improper, anyway.
Jeremy Knope
> On Jun 18, 2008, at 14:13:24, Jeremy Knope wrote:
>
> > Basically I and maybe a few others have noticed a quarantine warning
> > coming up for Firefox 3's growlRegDict file that's being created in
> > the temp directory.
>
> > Looks like this
> >http://skitch.com/jerome/p69a/firefox-growl-annoyance
>
> > I just verified if it was Growl that creates this file, looks like
> > within
> > + (BOOL) _launchGrowlIfInstalledWithRegistrationDictionary:
> > (NSDictionary *)regDict
>
> More precisely, it's the Growl *framework* that creates the file.
>
> > so anyway, the deal is Firefox is labeled as being in quarantine, so
> > that any file it downloads gets that warning on opening, even though
> > firefox itself is not writing this file, but it's being written by
> > Growl.framework within Firefox.
>
> Which, as far as the OS is concerned, is Firefox writing the file.
>
> Here's what I find weird, though: The Growl framework does not
> *download* the dictionary. It simply writes out from what it gets from
> the application's Growl delegate (or from the .growlRegDict file
> inside the application, if there were one).
>
> Were you running Firefox from the disk image?
>
> > Is there a proper way to manage this problem, or should growl make
> > sure it's files don't go into quarantine.
>
> There's nothing Growl (i.e., GrowlHelperApp) can do about it, because
> Launch Services has not passed the file to it yet.
>
> The Growl framework could, theoretically, strip the quarantine
> information from the file before opening it, but I don't know whether
> that would actually work (it would make sense for File Manager to lie
> to us in that case—“yeah, I stripped it for you *fingers crossed
> behind back*”), and it's definitely improper, anyway.
On a strange note, this is inconsistent from machine to machine. My
roommate also has Leopard, Growl 1.1.3 (well I have 1.1.4), and
Firefox 3 installed. He does not get this warning at all. I assume
this file is created every time on a launch when an application is
using Growl? So I'm uncertain why it's inconsistent in behavior.
Although, here's a possible difference between these 2 machines I've
found. My machine has .growlRegDict associated with Property List
Editor, my roommate's computer has no application associated with that
file type.
Jeremy Knope
between the 2 machines. It appears the quarantine effect doesn't
cause problems unless the .growlRegDict file type is associated with
an application, in my case Property List Editor. Once this
association is gone, I no longer get this quarantine warning on my
screen.
Peter Hosey
> It appears the quarantine effect doesn't cause problems unless
> the .growlRegDict file type is associated with an application, in my
> case Property List Editor.
You're right. Wow.
I shall file a bug.
Jeremy Knope
Peter Hosey
Yup.
I haven't filed it yet, BTW. I shall post another email when I have. ☺
Shane Pekrul
I thought you might want to know that my problem is with an iMac G5
(w/iSight) and using Tiger 10.4.11.
Peter Hosey
> I thought you might want to know that my problem is with an iMac G5
> (w/iSight) and using Tiger 10.4.11.
You might want to start a new thread and actually say what your
problem is.
Peter Hosey
> the .growlRegDict file type is associated with an application, in my
> case Property List Editor.
Filed: x-radar://problem/6025243
Lorin
I have this same problem and it's been driving me crazy. I am starting
to gather a nice collection of these files at "/private/var/folders/
8h." When you say being associated with an application are you talking
about what program is listed to open these files? If that is what you
are talking about then in my case that would be TextEdit. Is there a
way to disassociate any application from these files or to associate
the correct application (if there is one to point it at). I stopped
Growl and Growl is still writing this file that Firefox seems to
believe I downloaded. With a little help from Activity Monitor I got
to the point you guys were discussing minus this file association
part. You guy also believe this is a bug on Apples side? Sorry if my
thoughts are all over the place but I have been having trouble finding
a post anywhere with this same problem so it's nice to hear that
someone has an idea of what it is. I have a G5 tower running OS X
10.5.3 if that info is relevant. I see you are running Tiger so I am
guessing this problem didn't come from my last OS X update (though
that's about when it started).
Peter Hosey
> Is there a way to disassociate any application from these files or
> to associate the correct application (if there is one to point it at).
Yes. Download the Growl Registration Dictionary Editor, use Finder's
Get Info panel to associate a .growlRegDict file with that, then click
“Change All”.
http://growl.info/files/GrowlRegDictEditor-1.0b1.zip
You may want to keep GRDE around for future .growlRegDict editing. It
beats the hell out of TextEdit. ☺
> I stopped Growl and Growl is still writing this file …
The Growl framework writes the file, not the Growl background process.
(Firefox, I believe, incorporates the actual Obj-C class,
GrowlApplicationBridge, rather than bundling the framework.)
> … that Firefox seems to believe I downloaded.
Mac OS X believes that, not Firefox.
> You guy also believe this is a bug on Apples side?
It is one, and I reported it as such.
Lorin
> Get Info panel to associate a .growlRegDict file with that, then click
> “Change All”.
>
> http://growl.info/files/GrowlRegDictEditor-1.0b1.zip