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Todd McGrath
Jan 18, 2012, 9:25:33 AM1/18/12
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Are there any Twin Cities based groups with a Scala focus?
If not, anyone interested in gathering occasionally to grow our skills
in Scala, Akka and other Scala based libs/frameworks?
Background--
I'm a fan of Groovy/ Grails and long term member of this group. But
lately, I've had a chance to build backends to Grails apps in Scala
with Akka framework.
Now, if you're skeptical, I understand... I was too at first. Like
many of you, I've been around long enough to see shiny things come and
go in software development.
But, Scala / Akka combo seems different. Reminds me of early days of
other frameworks- Hibernate, Spring, G/Rails. Also, consider trend of
Scala jobs on Indeed, Heroku support, or the fact Typesafe just
received a chunk of venture change.
We could also get into Lift or Play as well.
Is this the perfect tool for every situation? Of course not.
But, if you're interested or have any ideas/ questions to move ahead,
send me an email to todd.m...@gmail.com
Thanks,
Todd
If not, anyone interested in gathering occasionally to grow our skills
in Scala, Akka and other Scala based libs/frameworks?
Background--
I'm a fan of Groovy/ Grails and long term member of this group. But
lately, I've had a chance to build backends to Grails apps in Scala
with Akka framework.
Now, if you're skeptical, I understand... I was too at first. Like
many of you, I've been around long enough to see shiny things come and
go in software development.
But, Scala / Akka combo seems different. Reminds me of early days of
other frameworks- Hibernate, Spring, G/Rails. Also, consider trend of
Scala jobs on Indeed, Heroku support, or the fact Typesafe just
received a chunk of venture change.
We could also get into Lift or Play as well.
Is this the perfect tool for every situation? Of course not.
But, if you're interested or have any ideas/ questions to move ahead,
send me an email to todd.m...@gmail.com
Thanks,
Todd
Mike Leo
Jan 18, 2012, 10:09:20 AM1/18/12
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Todd,
I am starting on a project that works with a team using Scala. I might
be interested.
Michael Leo
Kettle River Consulting
ML...@KettleRiverConsulting.com
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Bill Turner
Jan 18, 2012, 4:51:37 PM1/18/12
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Perhaps a more general group re: functional languages? Just an idea.
On Jan 18, 9:09 am, Mike Leo <m...@kettleriverconsulting.com> wrote:
> Todd,
>
> I am starting on a project that works with a team using Scala. I might
> be interested.
>
> Michael Leo
> Kettle River Consulting
>
> M...@KettleRiverConsulting.com
Perhaps a more general group re: functional languages? Just an idea.
On Jan 18, 9:09 am, Mike Leo <m...@kettleriverconsulting.com> wrote:
> Todd,
>
> I am starting on a project that works with a team using Scala. I might
> be interested.
>
> Michael Leo
> Kettle River Consulting
>
> +1 612-859-2108 (cell)
> +1 612-605-1978 (fax)
>
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Todd McGrath wrote:
>
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> > Are there any Twin Cities based groups with a Scala focus?
>
> > If not, anyone interested in gathering occasionally to grow our skills
> > in Scala, Akka and other Scala based libs/frameworks?
>
> > Background--
> > I'm a fan of Groovy/ Grails and long term member of this group. But
> > lately, I've had a chance to build backends to Grails apps in Scala
> > with Akka framework.
>
> > Now, if you're skeptical, I understand... I was too at first. Like
> > many of you, I've been around long enough to see shiny things come and
> > go in software development.
>
> > But, Scala / Akka combo seems different. Reminds me of early days of
> > other frameworks- Hibernate, Spring, G/Rails. Also, consider trend of
> > Scala jobs on Indeed, Heroku support, or the fact Typesafe just
> > received a chunk of venture change.
>
> > We could also get into Lift or Play as well.
>
> > Is this the perfect tool for every situation? Of course not.
>
> > But, if you're interested or have any ideas/ questions to move ahead,
> > send me an email to todd.mcgr...@gmail.com
> +1 612-605-1978 (fax)
>
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Todd McGrath wrote:
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> > Are there any Twin Cities based groups with a Scala focus?
>
> > If not, anyone interested in gathering occasionally to grow our skills
> > in Scala, Akka and other Scala based libs/frameworks?
>
> > Background--
> > I'm a fan of Groovy/ Grails and long term member of this group. But
> > lately, I've had a chance to build backends to Grails apps in Scala
> > with Akka framework.
>
> > Now, if you're skeptical, I understand... I was too at first. Like
> > many of you, I've been around long enough to see shiny things come and
> > go in software development.
>
> > But, Scala / Akka combo seems different. Reminds me of early days of
> > other frameworks- Hibernate, Spring, G/Rails. Also, consider trend of
> > Scala jobs on Indeed, Heroku support, or the fact Typesafe just
> > received a chunk of venture change.
>
> > We could also get into Lift or Play as well.
>
> > Is this the perfect tool for every situation? Of course not.
>
> > But, if you're interested or have any ideas/ questions to move ahead,
Chris Bartling
Jan 18, 2012, 5:43:42 PM1/18/12
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Bill,
I like the idea of the general group focused around functional languages. I'm sort of torn between looking at Clojure and Scala at the moment (probably leaning towards Clojure due some recent press coming from the Scala camp). It might be nice to have a broader appeal to a couple of languages targeting the JVM runtime.
Regards,
-- chris --
Ted Naleid
Jan 18, 2012, 5:50:33 PM1/18/12
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The main reason that I'm not piping up regarding a Scala-specific group is that I'm more interested in Clojure at the moment as well (thinking about going to the upcoming clojure west conference in March). If it weren't for that, I'd be interested in this.
I know there's already a Clojure group that's meeting at the Refactr offices. I'm not sure if there's any interest in the meetings becoming more of a JVM functional meeting, I think the clojure group is pretty small, but I'm not sure if they're interested in expanding their focus. Could be worth asking, especially as the Akka stuff could still be leveraged from Clojure (or other JVM languages) if desired.
-Ted
Bill Turner
Jan 18, 2012, 6:38:50 PM1/18/12
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Having a wider scope makes sense to me for it is often difficult to
continually come up with new topics and new speakers. It is a big
worry of mine when it comes to GR8 US.
I am ambivalent about whether or not it should just be jvm based
functional languages. I understand the reasoning for it, but it does
exclude Haskell and Erlang from discussions (I know that there are
ports).
Little did I know there was a Clojure group. I wonder what other
secret societies there are of which I remain unaware.
continually come up with new topics and new speakers. It is a big
worry of mine when it comes to GR8 US.
I am ambivalent about whether or not it should just be jvm based
functional languages. I understand the reasoning for it, but it does
exclude Haskell and Erlang from discussions (I know that there are
ports).
Little did I know there was a Clojure group. I wonder what other
secret societies there are of which I remain unaware.
Todd McGrath
Jan 20, 2012, 8:07:29 AM1/20/12
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Thanks for the feedback! A couple of follow ups-
By recent press, I assume this is story of Yammer going from Scala
back to Java? If yes, I found that interesting too.
I like Clojure too. Much more functional language than Scala... have
to admit something though -- every time I study it, I hear a slightly
evil, menacing laugh and lightening storm soundtrack in the
background. The lights go dim and when I turn around, there's an old
time Lisp'er rubbing his hands saying "I told you it was all we
needed". Dude is kind of creepy. This could be because I haven't
made it through the entire Prag Prog "Programming Clojure" book yet
though.
Anyhow, we'll see where this idea of Scala specific group goes. I'll
post a follow up for a Scala specific hootenanny.
Any interest in seeing a Scala/Akka app at a future GUM meeting? It
wouldn't be too fancy, but I could cobble something together.
By recent press, I assume this is story of Yammer going from Scala
back to Java? If yes, I found that interesting too.
I like Clojure too. Much more functional language than Scala... have
to admit something though -- every time I study it, I hear a slightly
evil, menacing laugh and lightening storm soundtrack in the
background. The lights go dim and when I turn around, there's an old
time Lisp'er rubbing his hands saying "I told you it was all we
needed". Dude is kind of creepy. This could be because I haven't
made it through the entire Prag Prog "Programming Clojure" book yet
though.
Anyhow, we'll see where this idea of Scala specific group goes. I'll
post a follow up for a Scala specific hootenanny.
Any interest in seeing a Scala/Akka app at a future GUM meeting? It
wouldn't be too fancy, but I could cobble something together.
Chris Bartling
Jan 20, 2012, 8:56:06 AM1/20/12
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Todd,
I was referring to David Pollack's words on Scala...
http://goodstuff.im/yes-virginia-scala-is-hard
http://www.infoq.com/articles/barriers-to-scala-adoption
David's been around the block some. I first encountered him and his company, Athena Design, in the early 90s on OS/2 Warp. Dude knows what he's talking about and I have a lot of respect for him.
Regards,
-- chris --
Christopher Bartling
chris.b...@gmail.com
Christian Oestreich
Jan 20, 2012, 5:39:51 PM1/20/12
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I would imagine he is probably a bit slighted that Play was adopted as
the official Scala web framework over his Lift framework. I have used
both and much prefer Play. It was easier to get up and running on
Play when I did my POC. I would agree that David was very helpful and
knowledgeable in responding to some direct emails I sent him about
Lift when we were prototyping some code with it.
IMHO, I like Bartling's functional language soup idea. I am also
interested more in Clojure or something on node.js and how to
integrate it with Grails would be more interesting than Scala. I can
already see the eyes glazing over during a Scala presentation as the
language takes some time and struggle to learn from our general
experience.
On Jan 20, 7:56 am, Chris Bartling <chris.bartl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd,
>
> I was referring to David Pollack's words on Scala...
>
> http://goodstuff.im/yes-virginia-scala-is-hard
>
> http://www.infoq.com/articles/barriers-to-scala-adoption
>
> David's been around the block some. I first encountered him and his company, Athena Design, in the early 90s on OS/2 Warp. Dude knows what he's talking about and I have a lot of respect for him.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- chris --
>
> Christopher Bartling
> chris.bartl...@gmail.com
the official Scala web framework over his Lift framework. I have used
both and much prefer Play. It was easier to get up and running on
Play when I did my POC. I would agree that David was very helpful and
knowledgeable in responding to some direct emails I sent him about
Lift when we were prototyping some code with it.
IMHO, I like Bartling's functional language soup idea. I am also
interested more in Clojure or something on node.js and how to
integrate it with Grails would be more interesting than Scala. I can
already see the eyes glazing over during a Scala presentation as the
language takes some time and struggle to learn from our general
experience.
On Jan 20, 7:56 am, Chris Bartling <chris.bartl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd,
>
> I was referring to David Pollack's words on Scala...
>
> http://goodstuff.im/yes-virginia-scala-is-hard
>
> http://www.infoq.com/articles/barriers-to-scala-adoption
>
> David's been around the block some. I first encountered him and his company, Athena Design, in the early 90s on OS/2 Warp. Dude knows what he's talking about and I have a lot of respect for him.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- chris --
>
> Christopher Bartling
erickinsella
Jan 23, 2012, 4:35:03 PM1/23/12
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Yes as mentioned both these groups are relatively new.
http://clojure.mn
http://www.meetup.com/JavaScriptMN
They also have associated google groups.
http://groups.google.com/group/clojuremn
http://groups.google.com/group/javascript-mn
http://clojure.mn
http://www.meetup.com/JavaScriptMN
They also have associated google groups.
http://groups.google.com/group/clojuremn
http://groups.google.com/group/javascript-mn
erickinsella
Jan 25, 2012, 11:57:33 AM1/25/12
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@Todd I think trying to get the word out for Scala specific group is
well worth a shot. Who knew there'd be enough interest for Clojure
before it happend?
Also, I think there could be enough room in the user group eco-system
for a language agnostic usergroup a al http://lambdalounge.org here in
Minnesota. I'd be interested in going to something like that monthly.
- Eric
On Jan 23, 3:35 pm, erickinsella <erickinse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes as mentioned both these groups are relatively new.
>
> http://clojure.mnhttp://www.meetup.com/JavaScriptMN
well worth a shot. Who knew there'd be enough interest for Clojure
before it happend?
Also, I think there could be enough room in the user group eco-system
for a language agnostic usergroup a al http://lambdalounge.org here in
Minnesota. I'd be interested in going to something like that monthly.
- Eric
On Jan 23, 3:35 pm, erickinsella <erickinse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes as mentioned both these groups are relatively new.
>
>
> They also have associated google groups.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/clojuremnhttp://groups.google.com/group/javascript-mn
> They also have associated google groups.
>
Brad Karels
Jan 31, 2012, 4:39:39 PM1/31/12
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I'd be interested in both Scala and Clojure discussion groups.
Perhaps a new group "Scala and Clojure Users of Minnesota" or
SCUM...perhaps not the best name, but I'd still be interested in the
discussions.
Brad
> send me an email to todd.mcgr...@gmail.com
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
Perhaps a new group "Scala and Clojure Users of Minnesota" or
SCUM...perhaps not the best name, but I'd still be interested in the
discussions.
Brad
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
Ted Naleid
Feb 1, 2012, 11:38:19 AM2/1/12
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For those who were interested in at least the Clojure side of things, the Clojure meeting is tonight at Refactr at 7 PM. I'm planning on going.
There will be a presentation on Noir, which is a popular web framework using clojure (http://webnoir.org/) by Tom Marble called "Noir is the new Black".
-Ted
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