We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of people to photograph key areas from their plane windows<http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. Using Doc Searls' photostream, we can try this out. His were from quite high up -- 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to LaGuardia could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd be a great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for places like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic monitoring is the goal.
> We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of people > to photograph key areas from their plane windows<http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. > Using Doc Searls' photostream, we can try this out. His were from quite > high up -- 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to > LaGuardia could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd be a > great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for places > like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic monitoring is the > goal.
That's a great idea to try to use airplane photos.
Another collection I've been interested in trying to work with is the California Coastal Records Project: http://www.californiacoastline.org/ They are oblique photos taken from a helicopter every few years of the entire California coast.
> We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of > people to photograph key areas from their plane windows > <http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. Using Doc Searls' > photostream, we can try this out. His were from quite high up -- > 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to LaGuardia > could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd be a > great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for > places like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic > monitoring is the goal.
> Jeff
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I've often thought about this while landing in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The flight path offers an impressive view of the Exxon refinery, which is often flaring.
scttt
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michele Tobias <tobias.mich...@gmail.com>wrote:
> That's a great idea to try to use airplane photos.
> Another collection I've been interested in trying to work with is the > California Coastal Records Project: http://www.californiacoastline.org/ > They are oblique photos taken from a helicopter every few years of the > entire California coast.
>> We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of people >> to photograph key areas from their plane windows<http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. >> Using Doc Searls' photostream, we can try this out. His were from quite >> high up -- 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to >> LaGuardia could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd be a >> great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for places >> like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic monitoring is the >> goal.
> "The purpose of R-sig-ecology is two fold. > First, we want to provide a discussion forum for those analyzing ecological and environmental data with R. > Second, we want to encourage R users of all ability and experience to participate so that we may grow the > community of ecologists and environmental scientists that use R." https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology
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scott- we should try to organize a hyperspectral photo of the Exxon refinery. A regular photo would be a good start and good proof of concept... Shannon, aren't you flying in soon?
but if I build a hyperspectral camera, does someone want to try scanning the refinery? It might get you in trouble with the TSA... but it's just a Flip video camera with a small spectrometer taped to the front. Very early prototype: http://publiclaboratory.org/notes/warren/12-9-2011/hyperspectral-scan... takes a separate photo at every 5-nanometer range, and lets you see the whole scene at any of those "slices" of color)
But in general, maybe we should start tagging all aerial photos "passengerpigeon" or something ("windowseat"?) and anytime someone wants to try MapKnitter, we could source something from photos tagged that way. Doc's photostream is a great place to start, of course.
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Scott Eustis <eusta...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've often thought about this while landing in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. > The flight path offers an impressive view of the Exxon refinery, which is > often flaring.
> scttt
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michele Tobias <tobias.mich...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> That's a great idea to try to use airplane photos.
>> Another collection I've been interested in trying to work with is the >> California Coastal Records Project: http://www.californiacoastline.org/ >> They are oblique photos taken from a helicopter every few years of the >> entire California coast.
>>> We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of >>> people to photograph key areas from their plane windows<http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. >>> Using Doc Searls' photostream, we can try this out. His were from quite >>> high up -- 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to >>> LaGuardia could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd be a >>> great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for places >>> like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic monitoring is the >>> goal.
>> "The purpose of R-sig-ecology is two fold. >> First, we want to provide a discussion forum for those analyzing ecological and environmental data with R. >> Second, we want to encourage R users of all ability and experience to participate so that we may grow the >> community of ecologists and environmental scientists that use R." https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology
> -- > Scott Eustis > 504 237 0323 > 504 484 9599
> listen to.... > News & Views on WTUL New Orleans 91.5 FM > Monday, Wednesday, Friday > 8am-10am > [[ In the 8am hour = Featured Local Interview > [[ @ 9am = Democracy Now! syndicated
> scott- we should try to organize a hyperspectral photo of the Exxon > refinery. A regular photo would be a good start and good proof of > concept... Shannon, aren't you flying in soon?
> but if I build a hyperspectral camera, does someone want to try scanning > the refinery? It might get you in trouble with the TSA... but it's just a > Flip video camera with a small spectrometer taped to the front. Very early > prototype: > http://publiclaboratory.org/notes/warren/12-9-2011/hyperspectral-scan... > takes a separate photo at every 5-nanometer range, and lets you > see the whole scene at any of those "slices" of color)
> But in general, maybe we should start tagging all aerial photos > "passengerpigeon" or something ("windowseat"?) and anytime someone wants to > try MapKnitter, we could source something from photos tagged that way. > Doc's photostream is a great place to start, of course.
> Jeff
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Scott Eustis <eusta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've often thought about this while landing in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. >> The flight path offers an impressive view of the Exxon refinery, which is >> often flaring.
>> scttt
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michele Tobias >> <tobias.mich...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> That's a great idea to try to use airplane photos.
>>> Another collection I've been interested in trying to work with is the >>> California Coastal Records Project: http://www.californiacoastline.org/ >>> They are oblique photos taken from a helicopter every few years of the >>> entire California coast.
>>> best, >>> Michele
>>> On 4/5/2012 9:31 AM, pablo k wrote:
>>> Good idea. I always make photos from up there.
>>>> We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of >>>> people to photograph key areas from their plane >>>> windows<http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. >>>> Using Doc Searls' photostream, we can try this out. His were from quite >>>> high up -- 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to >>>> LaGuardia could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd be >>>> a >>>> great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for places >>>> like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic monitoring is >>>> the >>>> goal.
>>> "The purpose of R-sig-ecology is two fold. >>> First, we want to provide a discussion forum for those analyzing >>> ecological and environmental data with R. >>> Second, we want to encourage R users of all ability and experience to >>> participate so that we may grow the >>> community of ecologists and environmental scientists that use R." >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology
If you've got inflight wifi, Mondo Window could help keep track of upcoming locations of interest, even with partial cloud cover: http://www.mondowindow.com
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Gary Mortimer <grmorti...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> I like this idea lots! PassengerPigeon is a cool concept
> On 4/5/12, Jeffrey Warren <j...@publiclaboratory.org> wrote: > > scott- we should try to organize a hyperspectral photo of the Exxon > > refinery. A regular photo would be a good start and good proof of > > concept... Shannon, aren't you flying in soon?
> > but if I build a hyperspectral camera, does someone want to try scanning > > the refinery? It might get you in trouble with the TSA... but it's just a > > Flip video camera with a small spectrometer taped to the front. Very > early > > prototype:
> > But in general, maybe we should start tagging all aerial photos > > "passengerpigeon" or something ("windowseat"?) and anytime someone wants > to > > try MapKnitter, we could source something from photos tagged that way. > > Doc's photostream is a great place to start, of course.
> > Jeff
> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Scott Eustis <eusta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I've often thought about this while landing in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. > >> The flight path offers an impressive view of the Exxon refinery, which > is > >> often flaring.
> >> scttt
> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michele Tobias > >> <tobias.mich...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> That's a great idea to try to use airplane photos.
> >>> Another collection I've been interested in trying to work with is the > >>> California Coastal Records Project: > http://www.californiacoastline.org/ > >>> They are oblique photos taken from a helicopter every few years of the > >>> entire California coast.
> >>> best, > >>> Michele
> >>> On 4/5/2012 9:31 AM, pablo k wrote:
> >>> Good idea. I always make photos from up there.
> >>>> We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of > >>>> people to photograph key areas from their plane > >>>> windows<http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. > >>>> Using Doc Searls' photostream, we can try this out. His were from > quite > >>>> high up -- 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to > >>>> LaGuardia could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd > be > >>>> a > >>>> great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for > places > >>>> like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic monitoring > is > >>>> the > >>>> goal.
> >>>> Jeff
> >>> -- > >>> Michele Tobias
> >>> PhD Candidate > >>> Geography Graduate Group > >>> University of California, Davis > >>> mmtob...@ucdavis.eduhttp:// > ggg.ucdavis.edu/student/michele-m-tobiashttp://ucdavis.academia.edu/MicheleTobias
> >>> "The purpose of R-sig-ecology is two fold. > >>> First, we want to provide a discussion forum for those analyzing > >>> ecological and environmental data with R. > >>> Second, we want to encourage R users of all ability and experience to > >>> participate so that we may grow the > >>> community of ecologists and environmental scientists that use R." > >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology
Yes, but into New Orleans, not to Baton Rouge where Exxon is... if you a get me a hyperspectral, I'm sure we can find people flying over the region between New Orleans and Baton Rouge where there are more than enough refineries to try this out. Also might tap into the Houston network a bit. Yes can start with some regular imaging.
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Jeffrey Warren <j...@publiclaboratory.org>wrote:
> scott- we should try to organize a hyperspectral photo of the Exxon > refinery. A regular photo would be a good start and good proof of > concept... Shannon, aren't you flying in soon?
> but if I build a hyperspectral camera, does someone want to try scanning > the refinery? It might get you in trouble with the TSA... but it's just a > Flip video camera with a small spectrometer taped to the front. Very early > prototype: > http://publiclaboratory.org/notes/warren/12-9-2011/hyperspectral-scan... takes a separate photo at every 5-nanometer range, and lets you > see the whole scene at any of those "slices" of color)
> But in general, maybe we should start tagging all aerial photos > "passengerpigeon" or something ("windowseat"?) and anytime someone wants to > try MapKnitter, we could source something from photos tagged that way. > Doc's photostream is a great place to start, of course.
> Jeff
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Scott Eustis <eusta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've often thought about this while landing in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. >> The flight path offers an impressive view of the Exxon refinery, which is >> often flaring.
>> scttt
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michele Tobias <tobias.mich...@gmail.com >> > wrote:
>>> That's a great idea to try to use airplane photos.
>>> Another collection I've been interested in trying to work with is the >>> California Coastal Records Project: http://www.californiacoastline.org/ >>> They are oblique photos taken from a helicopter every few years of the >>> entire California coast.
>>> best, >>> Michele
>>> On 4/5/2012 9:31 AM, pablo k wrote:
>>> Good idea. I always make photos from up there.
>>>> We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of >>>> people to photograph key areas from their plane windows<http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. >>>> Using Doc Searls' photostream, we can try this out. His were from quite >>>> high up -- 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to >>>> LaGuardia could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd be a >>>> great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for places >>>> like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic monitoring is the >>>> goal.
>>> "The purpose of R-sig-ecology is two fold. >>> First, we want to provide a discussion forum for those analyzing ecological and environmental data with R. >>> Second, we want to encourage R users of all ability and experience to participate so that we may grow the >>> community of ecologists and environmental scientists that use R." https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology
This California dataset Michelle is talking about is a great data set,
if oblique. Some of the wealthy homeowners there have been
unsuccessfully trying for years to get the site taken down on the
grounds that it is an invasion of privacy.
Passenger pigeon is a great idea in terms of getting citizens
involved. I like the idea of some multispectral data and will be
ecstatic if we can get some data of interest from it.
Adam
On Apr 5, 1:29 pm, Michele Tobias <tobias.mich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's a great idea to try to use airplane photos.
> Another collection I've been interested in trying to work with is the
> California Coastal Records Project:http://www.californiacoastline.org/ > They are oblique photos taken from a helicopter every few years of the
> entire California coast.
> best,
> Michele
> On 4/5/2012 9:31 AM, pablo k wrote:
> > Good idea. I always make photos from up there.
> > We've talked about this before -- the idea of just getting lots of
> > people to photograph key areas from their plane windows
> > <http://publiclaboratory.org/passenger-pigeon>. Using Doc Searls'
> > photostream, we can try this out. His were from quite high up --
> > 2-3 meter resolution -- i wonder if some on approach to LaGuardia
> > could get intermediate resolutions like ~ 30-40cm/px. It'd be a
> > great counterpart to the high-res balloon mapping, especially for
> > places like the Gowanus Canal and New Town Creek, where periodic
> > monitoring is the goal.
> > Jeff
> --
> Michele Tobias
> PhD Candidate
> Geography Graduate Group
> University of California, Davis
> "The purpose of R-sig-ecology is two fold.
> First, we want to provide a discussion forum for those analyzing ecological and environmental data with R.
> Second, we want to encourage R users of all ability and experience to participate so that we may grow the
> community of ecologists and environmental scientists that use R."https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology
