More slash and burn by the tory scum...As they reduce our military to a laughing stock...

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Jonksy

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Sep 30, 2012, 12:56:20 AM9/30/12
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New year lay-offs: Army to fire 8,000 soldiers in 'fast-track' redundancies and sackings of over-45s 

  • The cut will reduce the Army to 86,000 - its smallest since the 1700s
  • A further 4,000 soldiers will go by 2020 in the huge cutbacks
  • Every regiment of the Regular Army will be hit with only the Special Forces protected from lay-offs
  • Under a controversial new proposal, British Army officers will be forced to retire at 45 – ten years earlier than at present

Facing redundancy: Every regiment in the army will be hit by the cuts that will see 8,000 soldiers lose their jobs

Facing redundancy: Every regiment in the army will be hit by the cuts that will see 8,000 soldiers lose their jobs

Eight thousand British soldiers – many serving on the front line in Afghanistan – will be told days after Christmas that they are to lose their jobs.

Redundancy notices will be sent to servicemen and women telling them their careers are over as part of sudden speeded-up cutbacks by the Ministry of Defence.

The Army has already been shaken by the announcement of a swathe of cuts, which included the loss of historic regiments and the prospect of a gradual reduction in personnel over the next eight years.

But now The Mail on Sunday has discovered that the MoD will make a single devastating cut of 8,000 servicemen and women, reducing the Army to 86,000 – its smallest size since the 1700s. A further 4,000 soldiers will go before 2020.

The axe will fall across every branch and regiment of the Regular Army, with only Special Forces ringfenced. Thousands of soldiers will disappear from regiments such as the Royal Welsh, the Royal Fusiliers, the Royal Engineers, the Royal Lancers and the Army Air Corps, which includes Prince Harry among its officers.

The Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers is expected to lose 600 of its most skilled personnel, while the Royal Logistics Corps will also be badly hit.

Last night serving officers, military experts and MPs condemned the drastic measure as a stab in the back for soldiers and a blow to the Army’s capability.

Former commander Tim Collins, who led the Royal Irish Regiment into Iraq in 2003, said: ‘This is meltdown. We’re still fighting in Afghanistan, the world is changing  rapidly and looks increasingly dangerous yet the Government is crippling our operational capability.

‘The sheer size of the redundancies in a single hit will devastate morale and send totally the wrong message to soldiers on the front line. In the new year they could find envelopes on their doormats with bad news inside. The job cuts across the Army cannot sit alongside Britain’s commitments to its operations against the Taliban and terrorist organisations appearing in other countries.’

In another move, British Army officers would be forced to retire at 45 – ten years earlier than at present – in a radical proposal by a Conservative member of the Defence Select Committee.

Outspoken: Former commander Lt Colonel Tim Collins, pictured in Iraq, described the cuts as 'crippling'

Outspoken: Former commander Lt Colonel Tim Collins, pictured in Iraq, described the cuts as 'crippling'

Drastic: A further 4,000 soldiers will go by 2020 - leaving the Army at its smallest size since the 1700s

Drastic: A further 4,000 soldiers will go by 2020 - leaving the Army at its smallest size since the 1700s

Julian Brazier MP wants to pare down the number of senior officers, leaving just a small cadre to fill specialist positions advising politicians. The plan, called ‘Manning The Army Of The Future’, represents the most drastic change to the structure of the Army since the Second World War.

Jonksy

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Oct 1, 2012, 3:56:24 AM10/1/12
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And yet another thread ignored by the usual tory faithful...LOL I wonder why?

Sandman

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Oct 1, 2012, 4:52:43 AM10/1/12
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Another tory favourite is reducing the size of our army Jon, this time
it's because of the pensions liability for long serving men, they are still
running recruitment campaigns for 18yr olds and younger.

jar

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Oct 1, 2012, 8:07:12 AM10/1/12
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You seem to be a person that likes to quote past facts Sandman so I dont think you will have much trouble in finding out that cuts to our armed forces are not confined to the Tories

Jonksy

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Oct 2, 2012, 5:21:01 AM10/2/12
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And you are a person OLD man who doesn't like to quote on the current facts that your wankers are now reducing our military to bellow the numbers of the 1700's....Isn't it funny how you always kept up with the current situation when labour were in?

Trueblue

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Oct 2, 2012, 6:14:41 AM10/2/12
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On Tuesday, 2 October 2012 10:21:01 UTC+1, Jonksy wrote:
And you are a person OLD man who doesn't like to quote on the current facts that your wankers are now reducing our military to bellow the numbers of the 1700's
 
Thats because your lot left us with the economys of the 1700s.

Jonksy

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Oct 2, 2012, 6:36:30 AM10/2/12
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My lot hasn't been in power locky...But your lot of useless wankers are giving away billions to the nogs which they are getting by hitting the usual tory target of the poor the old the disabled the sick and the vunerable..

Trueblue

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Oct 2, 2012, 6:45:19 AM10/2/12
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On Tuesday, 2 October 2012 11:36:30 UTC+1, Jonksy wrote:
My lot hasn't been in power locky...But your lot of useless wankers are giving away billions to the nogs
 
Our troops are there protecting the NOGS as you call them, far better to bring them home

Jonksy

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Oct 2, 2012, 6:56:10 AM10/2/12
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Don't worry locky the way your lot are cutting our military we won't have any guys left to send there shortly..Once again you demonstrate your usual pro tory indoctrinated shite...How verbal you and your leg clinger were a couple of years ago when you thought our guys didn'y have enough helicopters...How your views change when it is your wankers who are infesting the HOC.

Trueblue

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Oct 2, 2012, 7:10:50 AM10/2/12
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On Tuesday, 2 October 2012 11:56:10 UTC+1, Jonksy wrote:
Don't worry locky the way your lot are cutting our military we won't have any guys left to send there shortly..
 
We still have the 4th largest defence budget in the world.

Jonksy

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Oct 2, 2012, 7:22:04 AM10/2/12
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Well we have to keep all those old tory fart generals in the way they have become accustomed locky...Along with all those tory cronies who infest the MOD...We mustn't let them go whithout...But of course you would defend anything your wankers would do..We might have the fourth largest defence budget ACCORDING to you but we aint got the fourth largest millitary...

Trueblue

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Oct 2, 2012, 7:57:59 AM10/2/12
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On Tuesday, 2 October 2012 12:22:05 UTC+1, Jonksy wrote:
Well we have to keep all those old tory fart generals in the way they have become accustomed locky...
 
Odd its the Coalition clearing out Labours way over the top TOP BRASS.

Jonksy

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Oct 2, 2012, 8:09:10 AM10/2/12
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So you.won't.mind posting a link then locky...and as for it being Labour's I should have a look.how top heavy it has been.over the last 70 years if I were you...

Trueblue

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Oct 2, 2012, 8:17:30 AM10/2/12
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On Tuesday, 2 October 2012 13:09:10 UTC+1, Jonksy wrote:
So you.won't.mind posting a link then locky...and as for it being Labour's I should have a look.how top heavy it has been.over the last 70 years if I were you...
 
Go look yourself, you'll find how Labour cut the Navy by 60% but still kept the Admirals and top brass.

Jonksy

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Oct 2, 2012, 9:02:00 AM10/2/12
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And your lot are doing the same....Feel free to post the evidence that according to you they are not.....And that they are getting rid of the over crowded MOD and the top brass who are in retirement but still on the payrole..

Trueblue

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Oct 2, 2012, 9:30:23 AM10/2/12
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On Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:02:00 UTC+1, Jonksy wrote:
And your lot are doing the same....
 
Nope.

Jonksy

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Oct 2, 2012, 10:53:24 AM10/2/12
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Correct locky your wankers are cutting the military 10 times worse..
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