The rich will always stay rich....Even if they have to steal your money.

[tinman]

Those that cased the mess will no doubt be keeping their money nicely
tucked away somewhere.


Bank of Cyprus savers with more than 100,000 euros now face 60 PER
CENT losses as officials scramble to prevent collapse
Bank insider and government technocrat anonymously reveal latest plan
Deposits over 100,000 euros will lose 37.5% of their value
Savers then stand to lose a further 22.5% depending on an assessment
Cypriot banks refusing to release UK pension payments to expat Britons
President of Cyprus says there is 'no intention' of leaving the
eurozone


Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301513/Bank-Cyprus-savers-100-000-euros-face-60-PER-CENT-losses-officials-scramble-prevent-collapse.html#ixzz2P24Ywepm

[Briar]

Oh Tinman,

you speak a Truth, greater than you perhaps thought !

Stealing our money was how they got rich in the first place !

And BTW, the present president may have no intention of leaving the
euro, but if you asked the People of Southern Cyprus you would hear a
different answer.

On Mar 30, 2:15 pm, tinman <tinman080...@aol.com> wrote:
> Those that cased the mess will no doubt be keeping their money nicely
> tucked away somewhere.
>
> Bank of Cyprus savers with more than 100,000 euros now face 60 PER
> CENT losses as officials scramble to prevent collapse
> Bank insider and government technocrat anonymously reveal latest plan
> Deposits over 100,000 euros will lose 37.5% of their value
> Savers then stand to lose a further 22.5% depending on an assessment
> Cypriot banks refusing to release UK pension payments to expat Britons
> President of Cyprus says there is 'no intention' of leaving the
> eurozone
>

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[Sandman]

Most of the money belongs to Russian criminals, which makes me

believe, the president and bankers are playing a dangerous game.

They will not take having their money stolen lightly.

[jaria]

Maybe they did a deal when they went to Russia to assure Putin and co that their money would not be touched Sandman

[Sandman]

The were saying on the TV that the big depositers are Russian,

with hundred of thousands in the banks, I can't see them taking

it lying down, I know if I had £250k deposited in their banks, like

some who want to buy a house, I would be severely pissed off,

and I wouldn't let them get away with it.

[jaria]

It would be good if there were no secret accounts as there are in Switzerland . It was reported that many Greek politicians sent huge sums there and isn't there a question hovering over the President of Cyprus and his friends ? It seems to me that its not n likely that the Russians had time to get their money out.

[Trog]

Thats not true Briar. One can get rich by working hard and saving
hard, and investing in the right things, Investing for a return with
money is just a tool well used, for money is a tool.
In fact investing is what everyone wants, to get the economy on the
upturn, from investing in purchased goods by customers, to investing
in pension funds , stocks and shares and in tax free ISA, all
available to the common man and yes, then money does go to money, but
it is not stolen.
Entrepreneur invest and risk their investments, but they create work
and jobs for others and are entitled to a return on their risk and
enterprise.
Always remember that the first rule of buisiness is to make a profit,
and you do that by selling what people want to buy and at a price they
are willing to pay for it.
Then people give their money away, by their own free choice..

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[GBur3]

Rags to riches stories are getting rarer. The end of academic selection and free higher education have transpired alongside the maturing of an economy in which there are now very few ways of getting rich, unless you're a visionary genius who comes up with something like facebook - and that doesn't happen often.

Alan Sugar started selling stuff from a market stall in london. Richard Branson started off flogging records and now owns an airline. Both would fail if they were starting out now, its safe to say.

[Trueblue]

On Saturday, 30 March 2013 20:32:39 UTC, GBur3 wrote:

Rags to riches stories are getting rarer.

 

You do make a host of ignorant statements, the internet and IT has sporned thousands of rags to riches people, in India and China millions of Millionaires have emerged

[GBur3]

But in Britain, the social mobility ladder hasn't just been lowered - its been smashed to pieces. Thatcher burst into tears when told she'd closed more grammars than Wilson and Callaghan combined. I don't know whether that was before or after she went mental though.

[Trueblue]

On Saturday, 30 March 2013 20:50:06 UTC, GBur3 wrote:

But in Britain, the social mobility ladder hasn't just been lowered - its been smashed to pieces. Thatcher burst into tears when told she'd closed more grammars than Wilson and Callaghan combined. I don't know whether that was before or after she went mental though.

 

 

Thatcher never closed a single Grammar school

[GBur3]

She closed plenty of them pete. Go ask Peter Hitchens on his blog.

[Trueblue]

On Saturday, 30 March 2013 22:25:22 UTC, GBur3 wrote:

She closed plenty of them pete. Go ask Peter Hitchens on his blog.

 

Local LEFT WING Councils closed them because they were an embarrassment to failed comprehensives

[ewill]

As education minister she was in a position to halt Crosland's
malicious destruction of a national tripartite school system - but
did not

It was her greatest failing

[GBur3]

I'd need to look into that pete. But as leader of the country with a big majority, she could've easily thwarted a few troublesome local authorities. She didn't.

[GBur3]

She booted away the ladder ewill. Thats a pretty big failing!

[Trueblue]

On Saturday, 30 March 2013 23:00:50 UTC, GBur3 wrote:

I'd need to look into that pete. But as leader of the country with a big majority, she could've easily thwarted a few troublesome local authorities. She didn't.

 

 

You need to realise local councils controlled education and most were controlled by leftie wing morons

[ewill]

<<Thats a pretty big failing>>


As education minister under Heath I agree. She failed to stop Labour's
juggernaut smashing down a once excellent education system

[ewill]

She wasn't PM at the time

[GBur3]

But she was PM in the eighties when even more grammars bit the dust.

[jaria]

Poor old Eric Pickles would disagree with you GBur about controlling councils

[Trueblue]

On Saturday, 30 March 2013 23:18:42 UTC, GBur3 wrote:

But she was PM in the eighties when even more grammars bit the dust.

 

 

Nope, Labour destroyed in the 60s 

[GBur3]

She shut more than Wilson and Callaghan combined. That's a quote from Peter Hitchens - a proper conservative. Go over to his blog and ask him. He's very approachable.

[Trueblue]

On Saturday, 30 March 2013 23:42:53 UTC, GBur3 wrote:

She shut more than Wilson and Callaghan combined.

 

 

Labour councils did that 

[tinman]

LMFAO. Go on tell us all, What the fuck would you know about hard
work. Come on give us all a fucking good laugh.

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[tinman]

LOL. More Tory spin.

[jaria]

Having a nice long holiday Tinman?

[tinman]

It'll never be any deferent Briar. The bankers have become above the
law.

[tinman]

Is this how you got your money to invest.

Call the police and they sue

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301650/Call-police--sue-WPC-demands-50-000-petrol-station-owner-tripping-kerb-investigating-break-in.html

Coppers fucking parasites.

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[Jonksy]

Education: The end of the grammar school?

More than 90 per cent of secondary-age children now attend comprehensive schools. And Hag Thatcher holds the prize as the secretary of state who closed or merged the most grammar schools for a comprehensive alternative.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/education-the-end-of-the-grammar-school-1179844.html

[tinman]

I bet the Krauts are laughing their balls off at the Cypriots.

[Briar]

Dear Trog,

I do not deny that a few people have managed to get fairly rich by
doing that, but by far the easiest way to riches is to be born in a
rich family, this you cannot deny. Wealthy people in the UK mostly
inherited their wealth, indeed, go back to 1066 and the foundation of
their wealth for the "Old Money" was their joining a gang of armed
robbers under William the Bastard, who stole "ownership" of our entire
country and under their Feudal Law made the aforementioned Robber
Baron "King", and then shared out ownership of everything even the
people already living in the country. That was the foundation of our
even now still functioning Class System, a wrong that is in many ways
akin to the Caste System they have in India.

That event was a black day for britain and unlike nearly all the other
europen states we have still not managed to get rid of it.

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[Briar]

Tinman,

The one I spoke with by phone yesterday was not. He was furious and
worried that this was but the beginning, and that the Germans will
next be having to bail out all the other southern european nations one
by one... There is discussion of there being in future a 'weak euro',
for the south, and a 'strong euro' in the north of europe even !

In Italy Angela Merkel is being called "Die Patin" he said -
(translates as a female "Godfather", after the film about the boss of
the Mafia in Sicilly)!

[jaria]

It was always the case Briar that one currency would not suit all.EU countries. German exports thrived but now the chickens have come home to roost and the expected divide has appeared between the North and South of Europe, I can't see it surviving

[tinman]

The Krauts have been reduced to pinching the saving of other Europeans
to keep their Euro afloat. This mark the end if the Krauts trying to
dominate Europe. Your better off owing money not saving it.

We've seen on the news here that a lot of people with bank loans are
now being told by the savers that have been robbed not to pay back
their loans. Looks like the worm is starting to turn.

[ewill]

<<but by far the easiest way to riches is to be born in a
rich family, this you cannot deny>>

By the same measure by far the easiest way to achieve qualifications
is to be clever

According to you hard work has little to do with it

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[Briar]

Oh Elaine,

it must have been quite hard to find a way to disagree with me
there ! I will meet you more than half way, as I am feeling so happy
at the lovely spring weather we are enjoying up here and that I
sincerely wish that everyone else could share. Yes indeed, achieving
a qualification requires a lot of hard work, even if people think one
is clever. There is nothing magic about having been lucky enough to
have an uncle who taught me to read very early, thus giving me an
advantage. It did not change my parents being extremely hard up.
Learning to speak "posh" instead of the east london accent I grew up
with needed a lot of effort, and until I mastered the dialect I was
always treated like a cheeky guttersnipe. So I agree with you, a bit
of luck is insufficient on its own, it still requires had work,
something I have always accepted as necessary and any quite enjoyabl
if one adopts a positive attitude to it.

Is that alright with you ? Have a nice day today. Bless.

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[GBur3]

No, pete, thatcher, as education secretary, oversaw it.

[Trueblue]

On Sunday, 31 March 2013 00:08:10 UTC, tinman wrote:

LMFAO.   Go on tell us all,   What the fuck would you know about hard
work.  Come on give us all a fucking good laugh.

 

You call sitting on your obese arse driving a truck hard work.! 

[tinman]

LMFAO. He can't even get what I do right stupid cunt.

[jaria]

Lol Tinman we know what you are but not what you do

[Trog]

You first.

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[tinman]

LOL. At the very least I have the skill to fix..


Ok your turn copper.

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[jaria]

we can all play leggo

[tinman]

Nothing from the copper then.

Can't say I'm to surprised about that. Never did meet one that could
hold his own.

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[jaria]

Get out a bit more Tinman.

[Trog]

There are far more people in the world who have startedwith little,
and achieved a lot. If we were to draw up comparitive lists to prove
the point I think you would quickly find that the list of those that
started with little, exceeds those who gained from inheritance by a
very big margin. Look at the comercial world and you would find many
people tha started with litttle. Marks and Spencers started with a
penny stal in a market place, and allan Sugar started with nothing.
Forget the envy and start on the progress of the enterpising.
What is most important is the inheritance of inteligence and drive,
from good parents, and that will still apply when the socialists have
had their way, and stolen other peoples inherited money off them..

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[Trog]

Fix what, a tap washer? Your posts are based on wild uninformed
generalities, unworthy of being responded to.

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[Trog]

You have the mind set of a loser GB, failed before you have started,
asnd of course others need to be blamed for it.
There is an old saying that you only have to try 10% harder to go a
hundred percent further. Thatcher was a shop keepers daughter who made
good by her own hard work.

On Mar 30, 9:50 pm, GBur3 <GB...@aol.com> wrote:
> But in Britain, the social mobility ladder hasn't just been lowered - its been smashed to pieces. Thatcher burst into tears when told she'd closed more grammars than Wilson and Callaghan combined. I don't know whether that was before or after she went mental though.

[tinman]

LOL. Did take long for you to get rattled did it.

[jaria]

It's quite an effort to penetrate through to your brain Tinman. For rattled you would be more accurate if you said exasperation .

[jaria]

You must have a good memory then Tinman from your extended holiday in OZ