Grommets approval rating the lowest of any party

[Trueblue]

The boy marxist is detested by the majority of Labours MPs, 66% want Millipede as their leader, amazingly some favour the idiot Ballsup, few if any think Grommett will ever be PM

[Jonksy]

But still ahead of the caMorons in the country Locky....What a fucking shower this country deserves better but still idiots like you will doggedly vote for any piece of crap as long as it is tory crap.. The sooner all of the main parties are history the better it will be for all of us..

[Trueblue]

On Sunday, 30 September 2012 15:47:39 UTC+1, Jonksy wrote:

But still ahead of the caMorons in the country Locky

 

Not enough mid term, watch this mornings politics show if you don't believe me

 

[Jonksy]

Who gives a shit Locky? Like I have already stated what a croc of shite that this country has to choose from ...Neither of the main parties are worth a toss..

[Trueblue]

On Sunday, 30 September 2012 16:23:38 UTC+1, Jonksy wrote:

Who gives a shit Locky?

 

You do.

[Jonksy]

Really?...I wouldn't waste your money on the lottery if I was you..

[jar]

Saw him on the Marr show usual politicians phrases .he reminds me of what Stalin must have thought after dealing with Churchill.
Mclusky. Confirmed what we all know by threatening Millieband with the political dustbin if he didn't follow orders
Millieband has a mountain to climb

[Trueblue]

On Sunday, 30 September 2012 22:04:49 UTC+1, jar wrote:

Saw him on the Marr show usual politicians phrases .

 

 

Typical Labour ploy, rehearsed indoctrinated sound bites, you could have Ballsups in one studio, Grommett in another and the rest of the shadow cabinet  in others, they will all be word perfect in their spin, all give exactly the same answers to same pre agreed questions, the same old we have no policies so I wont answer that question, they oppose every austerity measure but will keep to austerity, they oppose NHS reform but will not change the reforms, their paymasters are calling for a general strike but Grommett spins he doesn't approve, anyone who believes this shit is an idiot

[GBur3]

He will be PM if the current polling trends continue into 2015 Pete.
That much is certain. Trying to claim anything different would be like
denying the existence of gravity. If they stay at 40% plus, they will
win.

Kinnock may have been 20% ahead in the eighties but the polling
methodology was flawed, the electoral boundaries vastly different, and
there was another big left wing party to draw away votes from labour.
None of those factors are in play now - and Camoron is no 'Thatcher'
either.

There could be a miracle turnaround in the economy. I hope there is.
But I very much doubt it.

Prime Minister Ed Miliband. Better get used to saying it...

[Trueblue]

On Monday, 1 October 2012 23:17:26 UTC+1, GBur3 wrote:

He will be PM if the current polling trends continue into 2015 Pete.
That much is certain.

 

He has a lower poll rating than Cameron and its a historic fact opposition parties tend to have a lead mid term which drains away come the election.

[GBur3]

On personal approval ratings, he is lower than Camoron. But Camoron
has the advantage of incumbency on his side.

On voting intention, the tories are around 10 points behind and have
been for several months.

As for the lead eroding as we approach the election, what will erode
it? Economic recovery? A sudden burst of national pride?

These things aren't likely Pete. Miliband is well placed to take over.
He just has to avoid fucking up in the next two and a half years and
the prize is his. Must be scary that - knowing you're likely to be the
country's leader but that you can still ruin it all with one poorly
timed, embarrassing episode. In football they call it 'squeaky bum
time' - presumably because you're squirming on the edge of your seat.

[Trueblue]

On Monday, 1 October 2012 23:59:51 UTC+1, GBur3 wrote:

On personal approval ratings, he is lower than Camoron. But Camoron
has the advantage of incumbency on his side.

On voting intention, the tories are around 10 points behind and have
been for several months.

Thatcher at the height of sorting out Labours last mess was 20 points behind mid term and she went on to hammer the socialists, the only reason the Bliar won in 1997 was he presented Labour as a moderate centre left wing government, the fact is Labour have moved so far to the looney left with the marxist unions controlling the party they are completely unelectable and will be for at least a decade

[GBur3]

On Oct 2, 12:08 am, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:
> On Monday, 1 October 2012 23:59:51 UTC+1, GBur3 wrote:
>
> > On personal approval ratings, he is lower than Camoron. But Camoron
> > has the advantage of incumbency on his side.
>
> > On voting intention, the tories are around 10 points behind and have
> > been for several months.
>
> Thatcher at the height of sorting out Labours last mess was 20 points
> behind mid term

Dodgy polls.

and she went on to hammer the socialists

The socialists? LOL!

, the only reason
> the Bliar won in 1997 was he presented Labour as a moderate centre left
> wing government, the fact is Labour have moved so far to the looney left
> with the marxist unions controlling the party they are completely
> unelectable and will be for at least a decade

Look around you Pete - the Reaganite / Thatcherite model of economics
has failed. It died a spectacular death in 2008. Now the tories are in
power thinking more of the same will steady the ship. It wont. We need
a radical left wing alternative to counter the bullshit of the last
thirty years - or all is lost.

[Trueblue]

On Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:11:57 UTC+1, GBur3 wrote:

Look around you Pete - the Reaganite / Thatcherite model of economics
has failed

 

Thats the most ridiculus socialist statement ever, Thatchers policy was sound money based on low inflation, a smaller public sector, her policies led to Labour inheriting a booming economy with the lowest debt and deficit, it enabled Enron Brown to pay down debt even further by the sale of G3 Licences, raids on pensions and savings, and punative taxes on utility companys, he then embarked on the biggest expansion of the public sector ever taking spending from 37% of GDP to way over 50%, he built up the largest ever strutual debt and deficit during an eledged period of growth and created the biggest ever housing bubble by increasing the money supply after removing all controls from the BOE.

 

You need to rethink who bought down the economy Alex

[jar]

Have to bend reality a bit to get that conclusion gbur but if it makes you happy why not

[GBur3]

A laissez faire, right wing consensus - bought into by labour as well
as everyone else - brought the economy down Pete. Deregulate
deregulate deregulate. Get out of the way of business. Sell off
whatever you can. This was the doctrine the Anglo-American world lived
by from the 1980s onwards. Whether you were labour, conservative,
republican or democrat - it didn't really matter. Most politicians
sang from the same hymn sheet - either because they believed this
rubbish or because they were afraid of rocking the boat. Once
government ceded some power to private enterprise it got hungry for
more and more. In the late 90s / early 2000s labour completed the
latest round of banking deregulation - and the tory opposition were
well chuffed (as they should be - it gave the green light for them to
get even richer).

So, no, I don't accept the moronic notion that this is all labour's
fault and the tories are now fixing it. The tories started the ball
rolling in the direction of this fiasco.

[jar]

well your heart rules your head

[GBur3]

Quite the opposite. I see the bigger picture.

[jar]

probably but it badly needs focusing

[GBur3]

Do you deny there was (is) a Thatcherite consensus?