Eighty coachloads of anti facists to protest at BNP festival in Denby

[Sandman]

Why are the police allowing 80 coachloads of protesters to descend on
denby they know the men organising it Lee Barron and Weyman Bennett so
why not tell them a token protest of 30 people is all they will allow,
we all know that amount of people will inflame tension and clashes
will errupt, I hope the BNP supporters keep their cool and are pledged
to be on their best behaviour make sure they have proffessional
cameramen there and their own cameras are working OK, this is an ideal
opportunity to make the UAF look the facists if they can't get a
reaction from BNP members then they will become more desperate and
desperate people do desperate things and that's when the cracks will
appear.


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[Mikhael]

The authorities want the weekend in Derbyshire to turn into a riot to
give them a political excuse to start proceedings to ban the far right
party even though it will be the far left who will initiate any
violence, either by coming into contact with the BNP or with the
police, positioned to alledgedly keep them apart. Of course the police
deployment will not actually keep them apart unless the majority of
the UAF scum don't turn up, but more likely, the idea will be to annoy
villagers to the point where violent reaction could take place there
too with UAF scum damaging property and people with the blame going to
the festival organisers.

It's a well conceived plan approved by the local police and with quiet
mainstream political support, as both Labour and Conservative leaders
are desperate to ban the far right BNP but as yet, have not have the
legal grounds upon which to achieve it, this weekend is designed to
let rent a mob achieve it for them. I do not believe it is about who
supports the BNP, it is all about who wants the BNP banned and for
what reasons...

[tabo...@googlemail.com]

Far too risky when the BNP hold the strong ground on immigration and
the other parties are not seen to be addressing the problem properly.

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[Sandman]

All the risk is with the BNP if it allows itself to be drawn into
conflict with the UAF protesters, public opinion is easily swayed by
what it percieves as the conduct of people at events be they good or
bad, any hint of skinheads, bullies, carrying of weapons ETC will be
blown up by the media, police, government, to try and halt the
progress of the BNP, far better to invite the protesters in among them
and let them decide how they act, a bit like the trojan horse in
reverse.




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[Mikhael]

I disagree Tabor, the present administration and opposition parties
are both opportunistic in this situation, both would love an excuse to
ban what they see as a risong tide of nationalistic support for a
party neither wants to see gain a power base inside British politics
or within the British political system, it would be acutely
embarrasing for them both.

Both are completely capable of utilising the UAF as a totally deniable
force for instigating violence in which even children get hurt because
their parents are seen as right wing targets, I would believe on
historical grounds, that the ultra left would see the death of a child
belonging to a BNP member as being some kind of punishment for the
parents political affiliations, such incidents have never historically
damaged the left but tended to romantacise their self appointment as
the guardians of liberal thinking, to them such a death would be an
entirely acceptable piece of martyrdom highlighing the evils of the
right as having visited upon some innocent soul, the very act itself.
The Bolsheviks never shied away form executing the children of their
opponents, rich or otherwise, and historcially, communists and
marxists have acted in exactly this way over the past century or so,
and in some places, still are, notably, North Korea, where being born
to the wrong family condems you as a child too, in full.

I believe that there are element within the UAF who see themselves as
freedom fighters in some great divine cause to purge the world of
those who do not share the radical left's view on life and the world.
These psychotics are the ones in control of the UAF and others like
them, their lives committed to their cause at any cost, today, the
BNP, tomorrow the right wing of the conservative party, who knows...







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[Affa]

, Mikhael wrote:

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> Both are completely capable of utilising the UAF as a totally deniable force for instigating violence in which even children get hurt because their parents are seen as right wing targets, .......

The Palestinians know all about placing children in the way of
danger ........ perhaps a gathering of mainly women and children will
cause a similar kick back if these UAF thugs can't be restrained.
How will these tanned and illiterate Allah worshippers react when a
group of school kids lob a few stones at them and chant 'Paki go
home', Palestinian style?

[Mikhael]

The point I am making Affa, is that BOTH main parties have targeted
the BNP as undesirable and both leaderships support the use of the UAF
as a tool against the BNP, men, women and children are already targets
of these left wing servants of the mainstream, in an almost freakish
re-run of events that happened prior to the Bolshevik revolution in
which to be a child of a family with money, position or policial
support of the monach was a death sentence for many. But it started
somewhere, and that somewhere was the identification of a group of
people as a legitimate target for violence on the basis of thier
views...

[kevbrick]

hahahahaha. 80 coach loads won't be nowhere enough if i turn up with a
people carrier loaded with of mates.

[Mikhael]

ROFLMAO, now, now, no blowing at the UAF scum, you'll scare them...

[Anthonychng]

The best thing the BNP could do would be to stay away. Any other
course of action will no doubt be carefully orchestrated by their
"opposition" to show them in the worst possible light. As I have
said often enough, the BNP is in no position to form a government BUT,
government or not, it is a fair bet that all other parties are scared
stiff of them being given any kind of platform, if for no other reason
then because they represent the far right and "the right" whether near
or far, has been sadly lacking , even among the Tory politicians.
AND, if the BNP do pose awkward questions by their actions, then my
party.....the conservatives do, to a degree, have themselves to blame,
for not representing those right of centre. Where are the anti-BNP
lot going to scrape together 80 coach loads of protesters? Can only
be from the well protected, well cossetted, smug foreign invasion
element, backed up by Labourites disenchanted with their own party, or
thugs who will support anything so long as it causes trouble. Maybe
even bored students and teachers whose Summer holidays are far, far
too long!!!

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[Ivy Martin]

I'm sure they will carefully consider your advise Doris, AKA T3....
however, they will possibly conclude that it is supposedly a democracy
and they are legally entitled to go ahead?

With regards who they are, likely, from what I have seen, the majority
will be uni students from Tory households and possibly the NL middle
class equivalents...

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[Sam]

I read today that NL are no longer going to concentrate their efforts
on weeding out Islamic extremists because the Muslim community are
getting to upset about it; so instead they will focus their efforts
and money on weeding out so called far-right members/supporters in
white working class communities. This coincides with a story about
a BNP councillor in Essex being told to resign because his
registration number on his car has letters in that make up the word
NAZI lol.

It is utter madness Michael that is getting worse by the day. I am
now expecting that the terrorist legislation will be aimed at the BNP
and others of like mind.

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[Gofam]

Im sure the BNP will stay away from trouble as they always have at
this annual event now in its 10th year. Admittedly there was trouble
last year but only when UAF/Antifa attacked the police and there was
trouble at the very first one when the ANL threw brick at cars
carrying young children and babies causing local papers to state that
that was not the way for ANL to "protest" no matter what the political
views of the parents may be you shouldnt really scare young children
out of their wits. Something UAF obviously dont car about as last year
a UAF supporting blog published posts saying if any little kids got in
the way and got hurt it owuld be the parents fault for taking them
there! Such is the 'logic' of UAF/Antifa.

Im pretty confident the event will go ahead peacefully and thr only
trouble will once again be UAf/Antifa fighting with police.

[Mikhael]

No doubt that the nu-labour bolshevik paranioa is about to hit...

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[Sam]

Big time!

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[Englshwomn]

80 coaches? 8-0 ? I find that very hard to believe. Who is paying
for them?

On Aug 10, 8:05 am, Sandman <joere...@aol.com> wrote:

[Trueblue]

On 10 Aug, 23:09, Englshwomn <Englshw...@aol.com> wrote:
> 80 coaches?  8-0 ?  I find that very hard to believe.  Who is paying
> for them?

Your a perceived threat by your sister socialist party, go figure.

[Sam]

That coming from a rabid socialist lol

[Gofam]

On Aug 10, 11:13 pm, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

Cameron is a UAF sponsor.

[Mikhael]

Not the UAF, none of them has a job since even if any of them applied
for a job, the only jobs they could get would be as soiled dressings
for fungus research. The great unwashed of the socialist UAF would be
travelling on charabangs paid for by the tax payer then, or illegal
untaxed and insured trucks belching out (and carrying) a cocktail of
lethal pollutants...

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[Mikhael]

Rich coming from a so called Tory who's leader is a leading supporter
of this left wing socialist collective...

[Mikhael]

Detail is not one of Locky's strong points Gofam. If Cameron was the
long lost brother of Chaiman Mao and extolling the policies of the
North Koreans, Locky would not notice...

[Ivy Martin]

Surely not Gof, the new messiah implicated in 'dirty deeds done dirt
cheap'? - He's not ACDC too is he?

[Ivy Martin]

aww why u picking on P69.2?

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[tabo...@googlemail.com]

I agree that would be the probable thinking Mikhael but they have to
be very careful that they get the result they plan as on the face of
it the public do see that the BNP are the only grouping to face the
immigration problem . Now how the BNP intend to achieve that goal is
another question althogether !!

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[Trueblue]

On 10 Aug, 23:56, Gofam <Gofamcitywrec...@aol.com> wrote:

> Cameron is a UAF sponsor.

97½% of the country are united against facists

[Ivy Martin]

"Desperado,
Ohhhh you aint getting no younger.
Your pain and your hunger,
They're driving you home.
And freedom, ohh freedom.
Well that's just some people talking.
Your prison is walking through this world all alone.

Don't your feet get cold in the winter time?
The sky won't snow and the sun won't shine.
It's hard to tell the night time from the day.
And you're losing all your highs and lows
aint it funny how the feeling goes
away...

Desperado,
Why don't you come to your senses?
come down from your fences, open the gate.
It may be rainin', but there's a rainbow above you.
You better let somebody love you.
(let sombody love you)
You better let somebody love you...ohhh..hooo
before it's too..oooo.. late."

[Trueblue]

On 11 Aug, 10:23, Ivy Martin <IvanhoeRMar...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Desperado,


Could be the UAF are worried about the Children knowing Neo Nazis rape
& kill 2 year olds.

[Ivy Martin]

"Desperado,
Ohhhh you aint getting no younger.
Your pain and your hunger,
They're driving you home.
And freedom, ohh freedom.
Well that's just some people talking.
Your prison is walking through this world all alone.

Don't your feet get cold in the winter time?
The sky won't snow and the sun won't shine.
It's hard to tell the night time from the day.
And you're losing all your highs and lows
aint it funny how the feeling goes
away...


Desperado,
Why don't you come to your senses?
come down from your fences, open the gate.
It may be rainin', but there's a rainbow above you.
You better let somebody love you.
(let sombody love you)
You better let somebody love you...ohhh..hooo
before it's too..oooo.. late."

[Mikhael]

97.5% of the country think they are united against facists, trouble is
that the UAF are facists themselves...

[Mikhael]

UAF Children already know that they are fair game at 12 and younger...

[Sam]

Err, they have a website that outlines all that lol

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[Sam]

You really are a sick, fat, useless chav lol

On Aug 11, 10:28 am, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

[Trueblue]

On 11 Aug, 11:56, Mikhael <svmcons...@pochta.ru> wrote:
> UAF Children already know that they are fair game at 12 and younger...

Thats why they want to eliminate the threat to their children.

[Sam]

Arr, i thought i see your ugly fat carcass in recent anti-democracy
demos. You were the guy who with the te-shirt of stalin, that read "I
am a male whore".

[Trueblue]

On 11 Aug, 12:26, Sam <saxon...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Arr, i thought i see your ugly fat

English you second language Simon.?

[Sam]

ROTFLMAO

Please, stop it pie man; you're too much lol

Next thing you're be telling me you have a BA in Phonetics lol

I tell you what; if you ever decide to go back to adult learning I
promise not to insult you about it. After all, I'm all for the mass
unemployed re-educating themselves.

BTW shit for brains, have you worked out that 11/9 doesn't represent
11x9 in any known mathematical formula. Maybe your engineering
background LMAO was just a figment of your over active, chav memory?

[Trueblue]

On 11 Aug, 12:37, Sam <saxon...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
> BTW shit for brains, have you worked out that 11/9 doesn't represent
> 11x9 in any known mathematical formula.    

Best you tell Ivy who thought 11x12 was 9.2

[Sam]

No, you stated it yesterday.

[Ivy Martin]

Nope not at all P69.2

Just something you keep stating because you are so embarrassed that
you have been proven a liar and a thick dole scrounging Tory twat...

who still believes 11/12 = 9.2

On Aug 11, 12:44 pm, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

[Ivy Martin]

He started to throw that in a couple of days ago Sam, totally untrue
of course...

It came after it was proven not only can he not spell equation, but he
can't even do simple maths of elementary level...

He was shown to be completely out of his depth, again, when it came to
electrical engineering and didn't even know an essential basic
forumla, let alone how to transpose it...

But of course he pays more in tax than you earn in wages, just like
11/12=9.2

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[Sam]

The guy does have a specially ability, and that is to lie without
knowing he is doing it. That must count as something?

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[Ivy Martin]

I think he knows he is lying and talking shite, but is just so
desperate for attention and as there is little chance of getting love,
like a neglected child, he'll take what he can get...

[Anthonychng]

And tabor, will the BNP, even given the opportunity, be "allowed" to
put any of their anti-immigration measures into practice? I am
convinced that powerful lobbies are at work across the Western world
to prevent just such measures ever seeing the light of day. I am
quite sure that Brussels would rush through laws preventing
deportation of even cut backs in immigration. It suits the Germans
and the French to see Britain weakened both economically and
ethnically by an invasion of alien cultures that dilute anything
remotely British. That is fairly obvious by the way the French
"allow" so many asylum seekers, immigrants or whatever the government
likes to call them, "slipping" into Britain. AND, as our national
government is now but a puppet government ruled and overruled by
Europe they have enough power to prevent whatever they see as a minor
threat to themselves. For that reason alone the BNP would find great
difficulty in doing more than blow hot air into the political
arena.

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[Ivy Martin]

Great post Doris...

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[Sam]

yeah, i nearly missed my stop because of it :)

[Ivy Martin]

I was shocked, after his other couple of posts, at how clear and on
the nailhead he was...

[Gofam]

On Aug 11, 10:13�am, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

But 97.5% of the nation do not sponsor, or associate in ay way with
the UAF, which is what the issue was.

Quite possibly because many are aware of their violence, non
prtaicipation in the democratic process.

[Gofam]

Cameron AC/DC?

Well Ivy I hadnt though of it before but if Angus ever had a break
Cameron could easily slip into his shoes... and shorts.


And carry off the part

[Trueblue]

On 11 Aug, 18:00, Gofam <Gofamcitywrec...@aol.com> wrote:
> Cameron AC/DC?
>
> Well Ivy I hadnt though of it before

We know the far right is steeped in the gay community, Enrst Roehm
encouraged bum banditst, we know Tyndale was a bum bandit who shagged
Griffin, the far right leader in Austria who died a little while back
was a preditory bum bandit. just look at BNP gatherings, all village
people males trying to look tough guys

[Gofam]

On Aug 11, 11:23 pm, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:
> On 11 Aug, 18:00, Gofam <Gofamcitywrec...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > Cameron AC/DC?
>
> > Well Ivy I hadnt though of it before

we know Tyndale was a bum bandit who shagged
Griffin,

The name is/was Tyndall not Tyndale, we've mentioned this before

Far from us "knowing" I dont recall anyone ever claiming John Tyndall
had a homosexual affair with anyone. You've got your wires crossed
here.

just look at BNP gatherings, all village people males trying to look
tough guys

Now you come to mention it cameron might be more at home with a
builders helmet rather than in Angus's shorts.... but then again.

Dont forget Cameron and the Tories are desperate to get hold of gay
members, even a gay news site reported it. they love minorities the
new cameron tories.

[Mikhael]

Christ pieman, all these arsehole bandits you know, I am going to have
to rename you "Speedy Gonzalez" the man with the fastest dick in the
west, you'll be needing an arsehole transplant as well as clearly
yours is going to get worn out knowing all of those turd surfers...

[kevbrick]

On Aug 11, 11:23�pm, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. someone needs to nick the
wheels of off your wheelchair so you cant reach the key board anymore.

[Mikhael]

'cause he needs a shake to wake him up Ivy, people in the Conservative
party need to ask the question as to why some of the policies are not
so different to those of the Labour mob and also Conservatives need to
be far more clearly seen to be sorting out the expenses mess and
preparing plans to radically change how MP's behave, there is much
talk but no solid evidence...



On 11 Aug, 08:02, Ivy Martin <IvanhoeRMar...@aol.com> wrote:
> aww why u picking on P69.2?
>
> On Aug 11, 7:49 am, Mikhael <svmcons...@pochta.ru> wrote:
>
>
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> > Detail is not one of Locky's strong points Gofam. If Cameron was the
> > long lost brother of Chaiman Mao and extolling the policies of the
> > North Koreans, Locky would not notice...

>
> > On 10 Aug, 23:56, Gofam <Gofamcitywrec...@aol.com> wrote:
>

> > > On Aug 10, 11:13 pm, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 10 Aug, 23:09, Englshwomn <Englshw...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > 80 coaches? 8-0 ? I find that very hard to believe. Who is paying
> > > > > for them?
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[Mikhael]

Tabor, as I say, it is a matter for Cameron to prove what he has to
offer is different, he needs to take a stand against MP abuses first,
only then will people give him the time to deal with the rest of the
governmental issues of the day. I think people are sick of being
dictated to by self-interest groups of either colour, they want to see
errant MP's dealt with and fired, like they would be in industry for
gross misconduct. We are not talking who is dipping which secretary
here, but who is blatantly stealing public money for their own ends
and using the system to get rich quick.

Let's see Cameron boot out the bad eggs from his own party, legislate
on MP rights and expenses and punish anyone who does not comply and
then maybe we will begin to see MP's who are public servants once
again, instead of the collection of opportunist sluts you see at
present.



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[AWM]

Once again, sweaty palms at the keyboard, TB quivers as he posts about
his Right Wing homosexual fantasies.

C'mon, tell us..is it just the cut of the uniforms that turn you on.

On Aug 11, 11:23 pm, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

[Englshwomn]

On Aug 10, 11:56 pm, Gofam <Gofamcitywrec...@aol.com> wrote:

> Cameron is a UAF sponsor.

Then Cameron is paying for the coaches.

[Englshwomn]

On Aug 11, 10:13 am, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

> 97½% of the country are united against facists

Who are the fascists Trueblue?

On Aug 11, 10:13 am, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

> On 10 Aug, 23:56, Gofam <Gofamcitywrec...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Cameron is a UAF sponsor.
>

[Trueblue]

On 12 Aug, 12:14, AWM <Anotherwhite...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> C'mon, tell us..is it just the cut of the uniforms that turn you on.

So you dress up then

[Ivy Martin]

says the king of anal engineering, who produces more BS than a small
country and exercises on a daily basis with the goal of becoming
Britains biggest asshole...

On Aug 11, 11:23�pm, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:

[Ivy Martin]

Guy needs more than a shake to bring him into the real world....
stopping his benefits and throwing him out into the real world could
be a good starting point, although I doubt he wold last very long...

[Trueblue]

On 12 Aug, 13:59, Ivy Martin <IvanhoeRMar...@aol.com> wrote:
> says the king of anal engineering, who produces more BS than a small
> country and exercises on a daily basis with the goal of becoming
> Britains biggest asshole...

Are you still working on that solar powered dildo Simon.?

[Ivy Martin]

Never have been p^, just a figment of your perverse unstimuloated
imagination and the desperation of your lonliness...

[AWM]

Sorry for arousing you further TB, but as you ask, I do indeed cut a
dash in my leather boots and jodhpurs.

Now get back to your Stephen Milligan guide to self pleasure.