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Randy P.  
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 More options Aug 4 2007, 10:18 am
From: Randy P.
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:18:23 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 4 2007 10:18 am
Subject: Re: Google's "Don't Be Evil" slogan

On Aug 3, 9:41 am, mpilatow wrote:

> >There would an EMAIL ADDRESS for contact like MSN, Y, Ask, et al have.

> Instead of email addresses Google provides much more detailed and
> robust information in Webmaster Tools than all of those engines
> combined.

Useless.  That's common sense items, at least to me.  Those are all
way too basic and you KNOW IT.  So what happens when none of the REAL
questions are ask/answered by them on FAQ's in their WMT section?
Nothing, we have to rely upon other site owners in forums such as this
where rarely if anything is ever settled.  The other SE's, you CAN
ASK.

And if you cry enough about a specific issue someone from

> The fact is they still provide much more information than all of the other engines
> and since nobody cares that much about traffic from them I am sure
> they have plenty of time to answer the few direct email queries they
> get.

While they may or may not provide more info that then other
SE's.....with the other SE's you DON'T NEED IT!  They don't have the
problems of deleting whitehat pages from their index!

> Oh, you mean like the Kinderstart lawsuit? The one where they had to
> PAY Google for such a moronic suit. Face it, being indexed is not a
> right. You are not paying Google anything and you signed no contract.
> There is no cause to sue for not being indexed.

No, others.

No one is claiming it's a RIGHT.

> It would be like suing
> the local library for not coming to you for an advertisement to place
> on  their bulletin board.

No, it's like suing a library for not carrying your book, when your
book is totally unique, helpful, useful, etc. and they're calling it
something it is NOT.  To carry on with your analogy, from another post
of mine:

Being a "free service" is irrelevant.  It's sort of like a library;
which are free.  Which is supposed to put as many books as they can in
their branch, and if a book is not there they'll get it for you.  If
you're an author, and there are countless similar books as yours in
the library ("A Brief History of Turtle Sweaters", "A Concise History
of Turtle Sweaters", "The Beginner's Guide To Turtle Sweaters", etc.
etc.), and you have a book "Turtle Sweaters For the Layman", and the
library refuses to carry the book and won't get it for anyone, you
could have a case, ESPECIALLY if the library is ***erroneously***
calling your book "porn" or whatever other topic that may violate
THEIR TOS for inclusion in their branch (i.e. flawed algo's).  The
same can be said if your book WAS in the library and they removed it
because it was ***erroneously*** tagged as something that violates
their TOS for inclusion in their branch. (i.e. flawed algo's).

This is the analogy lawyers are using.  Furthermore, like people
always say here and at other forums; with great power comes great
responsibility.  It doesn't matter if they are free or not.  When a
company has such MASSIVE power, and has countless millions that have
to rely upon it to make a living for their company; and a site owner
does NOTHING wrong, then suddenly they screw you by removing your
webpages or site from their index, you're ruined*.  And, they SHOULD
BE held accountable for this....and they will.

*Ruined or close to it because of the massive market share G has.  And
before the typical "SEO'ers" here make the same BS comment about "it's
your fault for relying on them", I say this: all of you constantly
lose site of the fact that NOT everyone has a blog or news site!  Yes,
contrary to your popular belief, there ARE niches out there that HAVE
to rely upon SE's.  From where else is the customers going to come?
Directories?  Classified sites?  No, that traffic is negligible.
There's no way around the (should be obvious) FACT that when someone
needs to purchase something online, where do they go?  SEARCH
ENGINES.  And which one?  GOOGLE.  Therefore it should not take a
genius to realize that when someone's small legit sales website gets
trashed by G, that is BAD news.


 
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