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Burt  
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 More options Jul 10 2007, 3:37 pm
From: Burt
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:37:50 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2007 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: Two weeks in Google Jail and No Chance of Parole it would seem!!
I would remove then totally, and anything that has something to do
with it.

I wouldn't redirect them. I would give them a 410, "gone", to avoid
confusion.

But its up 2 you. If Yahoo and MSN give you enough traffic, you may
want to continue.. ;-)

On Jul 11, 2:59 am, alkenmrs wrote:

> Thanks for your input Burt.

> That page translator script has been bugging me as well but I couldn't
> find anything written to say that it couldn't be used in this way.
> Moreover, there are a heck of a lot of sites out there using similar
> page translation scripts, so if this a cause of my problems, there is
> likely to be few more casualties.

> There is thread here -

> http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_...

> regarding translated pages (only just found it) and Adam Lasnik seems
> to confirm your comments.

> Do you think it best just to remove the links to the already cached
> pages or remove the pages as well. If the latter, I will have to put
> in some 301 redirects as most language pages are indexed in Yahoo and
> MSN and a lot of them were in Google until I got the boot!

> Alan

> On Jul 10, 7:21 pm, Burt wrote:

> > Hmmm,

> > It still means that you use a service that you don't credit, cached or
> > not.

> > If I had such a service, and you used it like that, I would ban you :)

> > And, your translation script is a bit buggy;

> > After translation links are pointing to the google translation
> > service, but results get redirected to your own site again.. ?

> > My guess is that your translation thingie may be a problem.

> > If you need translations, use some translation service, online or not,
> > and make them hardcoded.

> > My suggestion is to remove the translation thingies, and wait a while
> > before adding them again, in a hardcoded way.

> > If it takes to long before you get some listings again in G, then file
> > a re inclusion, explaining your previous translation "problem".

> > What I say may not be "consensus", neither may it the "reason why",
> > but if I were G, I wouldn't like what your are doing.

> > On Jul 11, 1:34 am, alkenmrs wrote:

> > > Hi Burt

> > > I thought about that as well and even posted a thread about it.
> > > However, the concensus was that the translations were not the cause of
> > > the deindexing.

> > > I have actually modified the translator script to look only in the
> > > cache on my site and not going to Google. Having said that, it only
> > > looks for a translation page if somebody actually clicks on the flag.
> > > To that end, it is not automated in the true sense of the word.

> > > Even so, I would be interested in anybody else's view on this.

> > > Alan

> > > On Jul 10, 5:57 pm, Burt wrote:

> > > > Dunno, but maybe google doesn't like automated translation queries.

> > > > On Jul 11, 12:30 am, alkenmrs wrote:

> > > > > At least it seems that way to me!!

> > > > > Two weeks ago my ten+ year old site athttp://www.alkenmrs.comwas
> > > > > totally deindexed from Google with no warning.- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -


 
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