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 More options Jan 31 2008, 6:18 pm
From: cass-hacks
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:18:28 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Jan 31 2008 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Keywords Meta Tag - Should I use it? How many keywords?

> I honestly can't understand this SEO craziness. Why are there not
> Google guidelines (maybe I missed them) that say.

In music, it is not only important to play all the notes, but also,
all of the rests.

> "Don't bother with keyword metas. They are a relic and best left
> ignored. Why not spend your time writing more content for your users
> or improving the features on your site."

Why not spend your time writing what people should do and not what
they shouldn't?

I'm not trying to be rhetorical, just trying to point out that usually
it is best if negatives are avoided, other than exemplary to prove the
positive.

> I know Google is the greatest engine. It's the only one I ever
> personally use but you can't just disregard the millions of people
> that use the other big engines.

Of course.

> If keyword metas are still important
> to them, then you need to pay some attention to their needs.

I don't know of a single engine that mentions in too much detail how
they use any particular signal.  I would think they would talk more
about  things that are more important to ranking and being good search
bait than spending time on little things that likely don't matter as
much.

> I feel the current Google engine / method will eventually die a death
> to a more community based system.

"Community" is anarchy.  I don't see community based systems having
the cohesion they would need.

> (I believe Wikia is taking this
> approach) When you keep everything computed, ultra secretive and have
> really vague guidelines you're going to prevent a lot of worthwhile
> sites from ever being found.

I don't see how one follows from the other.

We're not talking about fairy tale princes turned to toads.  If you
see a toad, chances are very good it is NOT a prince.  ;-)

> A site doesn't need hundreds of links to
> be useful.

Exactly.

> Or have huge amounts of content. I know - I've built them!

I don't know about "huge amounts", I try to hit "enough" though.  ;-)

> In the transition period, between methods, it would make sense to do
> one community powered search and one computationally powered search.

Assuming there is a transition. They will both be used, or not,
depending on their facility.  If a tool is useful for a given task, it
will more than likely get used over a tool that is not.

> Does anyone use Foxmarks? It synchronises and backups bookmarks online
> with one account that is usable on numerous machines. The idea is to
> not only provide this handy functionality but also to build a bookmark
> map that will help quantify the quality of any given URL. Once the
> user base is at a sufficient size and variety of course.

Oh, so you mean like instead of having backlinks, you have backlinks,
but call them bookmarks?

> The more sites that come online the worse the whole problem becomes.
> Interestingly enough I've seen forums suffer from what can only be
> described as data flood. It makes searching near impossible. The same
> thing is happening with standard web searches.

I don't know that it makes searching near impossible although I would
agree that it makes the result of searching much more dependent on how
one searches.

> Please don't get me wrong. I love Google! They are the only giant that
> have any idea how to make huge amounts of money without seriously
> pissing people off. As opposed to Microsoft who are world renowned
> experts.

:-()

> I just hate this constant greyness. i.e. there is no right or wrong,
> you guess and if you guess wrong, well... you guess again.

There is no black nor white, only shades of gray.

> This is
> both time consuming and infuriating.

You're going hate this one, "if it were easy, everyone would be doing
it."  ;-)

> I guess Google is more a friend
> to the searcher than the publisher.

I think that has been their plan and goal from the outset.  I don't
begrudge them that, it raises the bar of performance.

> Maybe the greyness bothers me
> because men are more inclined to look at things in black and white :)

(checking to make sure)  Yep, I'm a guy and I don't feel inclined to
look for black and white so it can't really be a "guy thing".

> Who knows

Only the shadow knows.

But he died a few years ago I think.

> Thanks for the advice though. I'll go back to writing more content :)

Good idea! :-)

Craig


 
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