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Susan Moskwa Google employee  
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 More options Oct 5 2007, 7:37 pm
From: Susan Moskwa
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:37:35 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2007 7:37 pm
Subject: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Hey folks--

I hope you got some useful information from our recent blog post,
"Improve snippets with a meta description makeover"!
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/09/improve-snippets-w...
In the comments, several people have asked what the word- or character-
limit is on a meta description, so I'm here to clarify.

There's no fixed number of words/characters that you're "allowed." Try
querying [roller derby] on Google, for example, and check out the
snippets: the snippet for the #5 result ( www.txrd.com ) comes from
that page's meta description, which is > 260 characters long, and we
show the first ~150 of those characters in the snippet. The #10 result
( www.waynesderbyworld.blogspot.com ) has a 74 character meta
description, and we use all of it as the snippet. The first one is
more than 3 times as long as the second... but who cares? They both
got used as the snippet for their respective page.

Both of these are pretty good meta descriptions because they're human-
readable (not just a string of keywords) and they give you a good idea
of what you'll find on that page. Conclusion: the content and quality
of a meta description is much more important than its length! And your
time is much better spent thinking about what sort of description
would be useful and appealing to a user, rather than counting
characters.

Feel free to let us know if you have other questions about meta
descriptions and/or snippets!


 
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kklynnt  
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 More options Oct 5 2007, 9:41 pm
From: kklynnt
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:41:43 -0000
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2007 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Thank you Susan...We appreciate the input.  Kerry

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IceGiant  
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 More options Oct 6 2007, 7:43 am
From: IceGiant
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 04:43:31 -0700
Local: Sat, Oct 6 2007 7:43 am
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Whoa... two major clarifiactions on common questions in a day?

Steady on... ;-)

Seriously though; thank you for the post since, like the one about
hidden text earlier, it is another official answer to a specific
question which users can be pointed towards.

Just as a thought though, it may be an idea to pin these things to the
top of their respective groups for a day or two to give all the
regulars and semi regulars a chance to take in the information. :-)

Cheers

Sasch


 
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Phil Payne  
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 More options Oct 6 2007, 8:16 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:16:26 -0700
Local: Sat, Oct 6 2007 8:16 am
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets

>From the blog post:

"And it's worth noting that while accurate meta descriptions can
improve clickthrough, they won't affect your ranking within search
results."

It is indeed worth noting that.


 
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 More options Oct 7 2007, 1:53 pm
From: bobsc
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:53:59 -0700
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2007 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Is there a minimum number of characters?
I have never seen a snippet with less than 50.

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 More options Oct 7 2007, 2:36 pm
From: silverstall
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:36:39 -0700
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2007 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
'content and quality is much more important than its length' -  i've
been saying that for years ;-)
Thank you susan,

 
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Susan Moskwa Google employee  
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 More options Oct 8 2007, 5:48 pm
From: Susan Moskwa
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:48:54 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2007 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Thanks, guys; glad you find it helpful.  :)

@bobsc: If you're asking whether there's an x for which a meta
description of x characters could be displayed, but x - 1 would never
be displayed, then no; there's no absolute maximum or minimum in that
sense. But think about it in terms of user experience: if your meta
description is
     <meta name="description" content="Book" />
there's very little chance that that description would be used as a
snippet in our search results, since "Book" is too brief to tell the
user what they'll find on the site, or how it's relevant to their
query. Is it a site for buying books? Is it an e-book that some author
has published online? Is it a site for booking a hotel room? If a meta
description is so short that it doesn't contain enough useful
information, we'll probably select the snippet from somewhere else.

Again: it's not about numbers, it's about what's most useful for users.


 
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Jean-Luc  
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 More options Oct 10 2007, 6:54 am
From: Jean-Luc
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:54:45 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2007 6:54 am
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Hi Suzan and thank you for your inputs.

Of course, I agree that usefulness for the user is key. But even so,
in important pages, it makes sense to take special care of the part of
the meta description that will potentially appear in Google results.

That's why we have developped a free tool that simulates what Google
does with the title and meta description. If you want to see the part
of your title and meta description that could appear in Google and
where Google could truncate it, please visit our Meta Description Test
page ( http://www.internetofficer.com/seo-tool/meta-description-test/
).

Jean-Luc

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 More options Oct 15 2007, 3:27 am
From: wreilly
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:27:55 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2007 3:27 am
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Hi Susan, thank you!

" 260 characters long, and we
show the first ~150 of those characters in the snippet. The #10
result
( www.waynesderbyworld.blogspot.com ) has a 74 character meta
description, and we use all of it as the snippet. "

So the max length is ~150, what is the minimum? I have noticed if it
is less than about 45 the meta text is not used.

This is useful information because if the text isn't used the content
isn't irrelevant ( in the description snippet ).

Bill

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wreilly  
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 More options Oct 15 2007, 3:31 am
From: wreilly
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:31:13 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2007 3:31 am
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Shoot,

This is useful information because if the text isn't used the content
is irrelevant ( in the description snippet ).

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 More options Oct 15 2007, 5:20 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:20:46 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2007 5:20 am
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
What I'm wondering is how does one know Google will use a webmaster
provided snippet or create one itself.

It would seem that Google tries to come up with snippets that are most
relevant to a given search so unless one creates a description with
all the relevant keywords and phrases for a given page, the meta-
description likely will go unused.

It seems to not be useful to come up with what one might think to be
good description text if Google creates its own anyway.

Probably a way to help ensure Google would use a site provided
description is to make sure the description contains all the keywords/
phrases one might search on that the given page would be applicable
for but to do that, you'd almost have to include the entire textual
contents of the page in the description and that would seem counter
productive.

Personally, I wouldn't spend a lot of time trying to come up with
better snippets than Google can or will.

Craig


 
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Phil Payne  
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 More options Oct 15 2007, 7:20 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:20:19 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2007 7:20 am
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets

> Personally, I wouldn't spend a lot of time trying to come up with
> better snippets than Google can or will.

I've not had any reason to complain about Google's snippets - it seems
to do quite well.

Now that we're told the description tag has no effect on ranking - I
wonder if there's that much point in it.


 
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 More options Oct 15 2007, 8:37 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 05:37:43 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2007 8:37 am
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets

> I've not had any reason to complain about Google's snippets - it seems
> to do quite well.

My only "complaint" would be that they are better than I could hope to
come up with on my own.  :-()

> Now that we're told the description tag has no effect on ranking - I
> wonder if there's that much point in it.

My thoughts exactly.

One problem that I could see that not having a description would
cause, which is the same as not having meta-keywords is that most
online "SEO evaluation tools" give you a shitty score if you don't
include things like that.  Things that haven't made a difference for
so long one wonders when the "SEO evaluation tool" was made in the
first place.  ;-)

For me, I think I'll save triple the time, forget about meta-keywords,
which I already do, forget about meta-description, which I haven't
seen the point of for a long time and to save the most time of all,
give up on out of date so called "SEO" tools.  :-()


 
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 More options Oct 15 2007, 5:18 pm
From: wreilly
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:18:32 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2007 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: Clarification on meta descriptions and snippets
Hi Craig,

All well and good, but I have a need to replace some of the snipets
that googlebot didn't do so well with. It woud be nice to be able to
do so as I am sure you are aware that is the first thing a user sees
in the SER after the title.

For the user I would like to have a useful snippet even when google
bot doesn't supply one.

Please.

No one asked about increasing rank. Didn't ask about usless tools.

Bill

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