Any thought to setting the Visualization API free from google.com hosting?
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RickB
Jun 1, 2009, 11:44:30 AM6/1/09
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It would be very nice to have this as a first-class GWT citizen, or at
least, able to load locally without a dependency on Google.com. I'm
sure this has been asked a few times, but couldn't find a definitive
answer as to "why not", beyond "to ensure the version is up to date".
I'm sure those who would want to use the Visualization API "off the
grid" are capable enough to ensure that they periodically update the
code. Plus, for some mission critical applications (and applications
in regulated environment such as pharmaceutical manufacturing),
unplanned updates to the API for which the developer has no control
could wreak havoc.
So, can we start a dialog to enable off-the-net access to the
Visualization API's capabilities?
Thanks!
least, able to load locally without a dependency on Google.com. I'm
sure this has been asked a few times, but couldn't find a definitive
answer as to "why not", beyond "to ensure the version is up to date".
I'm sure those who would want to use the Visualization API "off the
grid" are capable enough to ensure that they periodically update the
code. Plus, for some mission critical applications (and applications
in regulated environment such as pharmaceutical manufacturing),
unplanned updates to the API for which the developer has no control
could wreak havoc.
So, can we start a dialog to enable off-the-net access to the
Visualization API's capabilities?
Thanks!
RickB
Jun 2, 2009, 8:04:37 AM6/2/09
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I know this has been discussed before, with the answer of "something
we're considering", but with the desire by Google to capture more
enterprise developers, this really will be a "must have". Add to that
the decision to support locally hosted Wave servers, and the trend is
definitely towards supporting an externally hosted Visualization API
server. I'd really like to re-start a serious dialog towards making
this a reality.
Thanks.
we're considering", but with the desire by Google to capture more
enterprise developers, this really will be a "must have". Add to that
the decision to support locally hosted Wave servers, and the trend is
definitely towards supporting an externally hosted Visualization API
server. I'd really like to re-start a serious dialog towards making
this a reality.
Thanks.
RickB
Jun 5, 2009, 1:24:15 PM6/5/09
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TheViz
Jun 8, 2009, 6:12:55 AM6/8/09
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Hi Rick,
In the longer term it certainly makes sense to provide the API so that it is not tied to Google.com. However, we do not feel the API is quite there yet for it to be "untied".
In parallel we'd like to note that providing services over the cloud is certainly no barrier to enterprise adoption, provided the SLAs and support are there. Both of these have been brought to high standards on the Visualization (and other Google) APIs in the past several months.
We have many enterprise customers using Google APIs which are wholly cloud-based, including for the Visualization API. One notable example are Salesforce.com and their customer list. The Visualization API is one of their most popular add-ons on their Force.com platform. Salesforce.com and their customers require the highest standards, have mission critical applications, and are all enterprise customers.
The Visualization Team
In the longer term it certainly makes sense to provide the API so that it is not tied to Google.com. However, we do not feel the API is quite there yet for it to be "untied".
In parallel we'd like to note that providing services over the cloud is certainly no barrier to enterprise adoption, provided the SLAs and support are there. Both of these have been brought to high standards on the Visualization (and other Google) APIs in the past several months.
We have many enterprise customers using Google APIs which are wholly cloud-based, including for the Visualization API. One notable example are Salesforce.com and their customer list. The Visualization API is one of their most popular add-ons on their Force.com platform. Salesforce.com and their customers require the highest standards, have mission critical applications, and are all enterprise customers.
The Visualization Team
wally
Jun 19, 2009, 3:07:30 PM6/19/09
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Hello TheViz,
While I understand, from a philosophical point of view that the idea
of cloud computing services is no barrier to enterprise adoption, but
as RickB mentions "applications
in regulated environment such as pharmaceutical manufacturing" are so
incredibly regulated that any dependence on an external operation is
not an option. These types of applications cannot and will never be
allowed to depend on a 'cloud.' The example that you provide with
Salesforce.com is not applicable to what RickB is talking about since,
in this example, Salesforce.com exists *in* the cloud (http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing).
I think where I am going with this is that the tools that Google
provides are very good and the ability to take them off the internet
and on to intranets where they may function without the 'cloud' would
be extremely useful. Also, I see a potential market for these web-
based applications in a regulated environment as I am working for a
company that would like to deploy tools for the very type of
applications in environments similar to what RickB is talking about.
The downside is that we cannot depend on Google.com since the networks
will not have external access and now we will have to look for other
tools.
Hopefully this sheds some light on the situation.
Regards.
On Jun 8, 6:12 am, TheViz <the...@google.com> wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> In the longer term it certainly makes sense to provide the API so that it is
> not tied to Google.com. However, we do not feel the API is quite there yet
> for it to be "untied".
>
> In parallel we'd like to note that providing services over the cloud is
> certainly no barrier to enterprise adoption, provided the SLAs and support
> are there. Both of these have been brought to high standards on the
> Visualization (and other Google) APIs in the past several months.
>
> We have many enterprise customers using Google APIs which are wholly
> cloud-based, including for the Visualization API. One notable example are
> Salesforce.com and their customer list. The Visualization API is one of
> their most popular
> add-ons<http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2009/05/visualizing-your-clou...>on
While I understand, from a philosophical point of view that the idea
of cloud computing services is no barrier to enterprise adoption, but
as RickB mentions "applications
in regulated environment such as pharmaceutical manufacturing" are so
incredibly regulated that any dependence on an external operation is
not an option. These types of applications cannot and will never be
allowed to depend on a 'cloud.' The example that you provide with
Salesforce.com is not applicable to what RickB is talking about since,
in this example, Salesforce.com exists *in* the cloud (http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing).
I think where I am going with this is that the tools that Google
provides are very good and the ability to take them off the internet
and on to intranets where they may function without the 'cloud' would
be extremely useful. Also, I see a potential market for these web-
based applications in a regulated environment as I am working for a
company that would like to deploy tools for the very type of
applications in environments similar to what RickB is talking about.
The downside is that we cannot depend on Google.com since the networks
will not have external access and now we will have to look for other
tools.
Hopefully this sheds some light on the situation.
Regards.
On Jun 8, 6:12 am, TheViz <the...@google.com> wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> In the longer term it certainly makes sense to provide the API so that it is
> not tied to Google.com. However, we do not feel the API is quite there yet
> for it to be "untied".
>
> In parallel we'd like to note that providing services over the cloud is
> certainly no barrier to enterprise adoption, provided the SLAs and support
> are there. Both of these have been brought to high standards on the
> Visualization (and other Google) APIs in the past several months.
>
> We have many enterprise customers using Google APIs which are wholly
> cloud-based, including for the Visualization API. One notable example are
> Salesforce.com and their customer list. The Visualization API is one of
> their most popular
> their Force.com platform. Salesforce.com and their customers require
> the
> highest standards, have mission critical applications, and are all
> enterprise customers.
>
> The Visualization Team
>
> the
> highest standards, have mission critical applications, and are all
> enterprise customers.
>
> The Visualization Team
>
viziscool
Jun 19, 2009, 4:53:35 PM6/19/09
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Just read through the threads and seen quite a few offline request.
Cloud computer is gaining a lot momentum. But if you need a free viz
package today, you can check out chart.inetsoft.com.
Cloud computer is gaining a lot momentum. But if you need a free viz
package today, you can check out chart.inetsoft.com.
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