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(4 users)  More options Jun 13 2007, 8:19 pm
From: Google Video Guide
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:19:21 -0000
Local: Wed, Jun 13 2007 8:19 pm
Subject: Google Video Update!
Greetings,

It's an exciting day for Google Video! We have some new features and a
brand new guide who will introduce these features in a post shortly.

"Video Guide Paul" will help me ensure that all of you are well looked
after by responding to your queries regarding these new features. As
with all new features, it's really important to hear all of your
feedback. Please let us know what you think, and I'll pass all of your
comments on to the rest of the team.

Thanks,
Shenaz
Google Video Guide


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From: Video Guide Paul
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:25:40 -0000
Local: Wed, Jun 13 2007 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Thanks for the introduction, Shenaz.

Hi everyone, I'm excited to join the community! Today Google is
introducing several exciting features to Google Video:

* Google Video now includes crawled content from third-party sites.
Previously, Google Video included videos uploaded to this service as
well as YouTube. Now we're including videos from all over the web,
which we've gathered using a process similar to how we generate our
Web Search results. We have a lot of new videos now, and more will be
added as we continue to crawl the web.

* New UI for playing back videos: now when you click on a video search
result, we put the page in a frame similar to how we display Google
Images results. We've moved a lot of the features you've been using,
like "Related videos" and "Email this page" up to the top. You can
even play some videos directly from the search results, just like when
you find videos in Google's Web Search results.

* Finally, we've got a newly revamped Help Center to reflect these
changes, featuring new information about the new crawled content and
an improved layout.

We're looking forward to your feedback on this latest iteration of
Google Video.

Cheers,
-Paul
The (new) Google Video Guide


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 More options Jun 14 2007, 5:05 am
From: needtoknow
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:05:47 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2007 5:05 am
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Hi,

Why must we have frames? Most people don't like them.
They break bookmarklets, require mouse use, and obscure
things. Can there be a setting option to not have them?

I would like to avoid them in "Google Images" too. At least
"Images" frames can be detected, closed, and made somewhat
usable by a bookmarklet. These new Video frames are ingenious.
They seems to completely obscure the pages html. I wonder what
will happen when everyone starts doing that. The web is supposed
to be open for the public's security reasons, not closed for websites
benefits.

Why must all good things be eventually taken over by
the too clever and too greedy. Google is better than that,
or at least they used to be.

Hey, why not put frames on everything? This way Google can
find out right away how much business they will lose, and how
unpopular they can become.  I would hate to see that.

Also, why does Right/Left video shortcut keys (forward/reverse by 5%)
no longer work?

Thanks

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 More options Jun 14 2007, 12:21 pm
From: rholland356
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:21:06 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2007 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
The improvements are noticeable.

I ran a simple search--and surprise! The first page of results was
video from Google Video, and I didn't have to restrict the search
terms. It is nice that when I search from the GV site that GV vids are
presented first, rather than smothered by vids from other services
(which I was not seeking). Maybe you'll add a "look everywhere" radio
button for when I want to scour the net.

I see you now include SafeSearch, and apparently it is set to moderate
level by default. Nice addition.

I have to ask, though--just what is your business model behind web
crawling? Have the Dabble and Truveo and Veoh all-web vid search tools
really been all that appealing? Or is it that you believe you must
perfect all-web-vid search before you can step up to a Web 3.0 system
where rudimentary AI steps up to the plate?

And will you be running a radio marketing campaign, like Truveo?

No worries if you don't answer, Paul. I'm sure your Googe
Indoctrination included "Ve must nEVEr reveeel der sekrets und der
plans."

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 More options Jun 14 2007, 2:55 pm
From: Video Guide Paul
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:55:39 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2007 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Thanks for the feedback, folks!

needtoknow - I appreciate your honest feedback about frames. Note
that, for both Google Video and Images, you can eliminate the frame
for any crawled content by clicking the "Remove Frame" link in the
upper-right corner. You can't remove the frame from a video uploaded
to Google Video.

As for the left/right arrow keys, Shenaz and I are looking into that.

rholland356 - You may indeed see a lot of Google Video (and YouTube)
content when you run searches. As we crawl the web, more videos from
third-party sites will be added to the Video index. A video's ranking
in the Google Video search results is determined entirely by an
algorith, so just how many videos you encounter from Google services
vs. other websites will vary. Just like our Web Search results. :-)

And you're right, rholland356, I can't reveal Google's plans. I'm glad
you're enjoying what you've seen so far!


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 More options Jun 14 2007, 9:16 pm
From: RW
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:16:25 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2007 9:16 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Hi Paul;

I can appreciate that you are constrained in what you can say - but
can you provice any guidelines for third party sites that want to
encourage crawling, indexing, and ranking of their video content?

I'm pretty new to this video thing, so please be patient as I make a
fool of myself. We have flashclips that we would like to see ranked in
the organic web results. Are there guidelines you can provide that we
can implement to help Google understand our video content? Meta tags,
captioning, etc? Any way to predict which SERP pages are likely
candidates for video?

Thanks and welcome to the new gig!


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 More options Jun 15 2007, 5:01 am
From: vijendar
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:01:26 -0000
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2007 5:01 am
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Hi ,

For below search,

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=site%3Agrouper.com+++Russell+Pe...

we are getting 3 duplicate results? This might true for all grouper
video site.

Regards,
Vijendar

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 More options Jun 17 2007, 9:04 am
From: Anders
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:04:22 -0700
Local: Sun, Jun 17 2007 9:04 am
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Yes, I noticed that Google Video now returns search results from for
example Yahoo! Video and Metacafe. Impressive stuff.

I use the Google AJAX Search API Video Search Control and it seems
that it still only returns results from Google Video and YouTube. Will
the AJAX search control be updated so that it produces the same
results as Google Video? I don't know who decides this at Google, the
AJAX team or the Google Video team, so I post this question here
first.

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 More options Jun 17 2007, 3:23 pm
From: thanos
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:23:28 -0700
Local: Sun, Jun 17 2007 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Interesting.  But my videos on Google Video no longer appear in search
results.

Somebody ripped one of my videos and stuck it on their MySpace page.
That appears in the results.  But if I search for my work, my name,
nothing.

I sent a note to the Help people about this.

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 More options Jun 18 2007, 7:00 pm
From: Video Guide Paul
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:00:44 -0000
Local: Mon, Jun 18 2007 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
RW:
I can't share in-depth details of how to design videos and webpages
for inclusion or ranking in Google Video. I can, however, point you to
Google Webmaster Guidelines at http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769
which provide an overview of Google's recommendations for good site
and page design. Following Google's Webmaster Guidelines is the best
way to ensure your content is crawled and indexed by Googlebot.

And while I'm plugging Help Centers, I'll also point out that we
mention that Google Video uses a lot of factors to help rank videos in
the Google Video Help Center at http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=66487

Much like Google Image Search, Google Video takes a look at the text
on the page around your video, anchor text in links pointing to you
video, and other such factors to help us classify your content. Since
we don't have artificially intelligent computers watching your videos
(yet!) we rely on that sort of data to help us figure out what your
video is about.

In other words, I recommend against calling your clip "Video1" and
posting it on a blank white webpage. Instead, consider naming it
"doginpool" and placing it on a page with other content relevant to
your dog's swimming adventure.

vijendar:
Thanks for pointing out this search quality example. I've passed it on
to the rest of the team.

Anders:
Thanks for the kind words! I'll pass your suggestion about the AJAX
search control on to the proper folks.

thanos:
Without more information it's difficult for me to troubleshoot your
specific information. In general, however, you can double-check your
video's inclusion by performing a search on the name of the video. If
you see a lot of results, you might want to refine your search by
searching for [ videoname video.google.com ] to see if you can locate
your uploaded video.


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 More options Jun 19 2007, 1:47 pm
From: quiddity8
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:47:02 -0000
Local: Tues, Jun 19 2007 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Fascinating updates.

I have one request, (and I speak for 2 other friends too), that there
be an option to *Restrict* (or at least prioritize) the results to
just those from video.google.com
The higher resolution, and the avi download option, and other details,
makes this source's material much more useful than that from youtube
and elsewhere, most of the time.

Thanks for listening.


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 More options Jun 19 2007, 9:14 pm
From: Video Guide Paul
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:14:59 -0000
Local: Tues, Jun 19 2007 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Hi quiddity8,

Since Google Video supports Google's advanced search operators, you
can restrict searches to Google video by adding
[ site:video.google.com ] to your search. For example, to search for
swimming videos hosted on Google video, try searching for [ swimming
site:video.google.com ].

For more information about Google's search operators, check out
http://www.google.com/help/operators.html

-Paul
Google Video Guide


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thanos  
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 More options Jun 20 2007, 8:58 am
From: thanos
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:58:48 -0700
Local: Wed, Jun 20 2007 8:58 am
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Hi VG Paul -

I have four videos on Google, they've all been up for over a year -

Struwwelpeter
The Fangs of Destiny
Today
The Cabaret of Garbage

The first, Struwwelpeter, used to appear first in search results.  It
still does, only now it's on somebody's MySpace page. The Google video
is nowhere.

None of the other videos appear in the results of ANY search terms
I've tried.  Neither does my name, Thanos Fatouros.

By comparison, before these changes were made it was pretty easy to
find me and all four of my videos.  What's up with that?

Thanks
Thanos

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 More options Jun 26 2007, 5:31 pm
From: Calvsie
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:31:44 -0700
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2007 5:31 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
So what happened to the feature where it automatically goes to the
next song after the current one ends?
I really enjoyed this feature and miss it dearly...

RGS out...
Calvsie

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 More options Jun 29 2007, 10:08 am
From: Dioneo
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:08:08 -0000
Local: Fri, Jun 29 2007 10:08 am
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Hi. Google Video features are very very nice. You, may be, could add a
feature that YouTube has: playlists to embed a serie of videos in a
website. But, this is not tooo important. More important (and it is
very important): Copyright. I have lost several uploads because GV
rejected the videos. The copyright is a headache, a nightmare.
Regards.

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 More options Jul 5 2007, 1:24 pm
From: Dioneo
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:24:41 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 5 2007 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
Hi Paul. I hate this -write to GTeam-, but i don't have option,
because i'm in a hurry to get the answer, because there are more than
one person involved (a web2.0 micro project):
How many languages can be add to the subtitles or closed caption
in a Google Video film?
Languages of strange letters can be add? (i mean greek, arabe,
russian,...)
I uploaded spanish subtitles and special characters as Ñ,ñ,¿,¡,á,é,...
doesn't appear, and i'm saying the colaborators that avoid the use of
special characters (french, portuguese, german, dutch,...)

Thank you very much!

http://antolintinez.googlepages.com (in this homepage is the video
involved too)


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 More options Jul 19 2007, 2:05 pm
From: needtoknow
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:05:11 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!
As for the left/right arrow keys, Shenaz and I are looking into that.

Any word on the left/right arrow keys? Will they ever work again ?

Thanks

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 More options Jul 20 2007, 5:03 pm
From: Haiku Ra
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:03:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Google Video Update!

Video Guide Paul wrote:
> * New UI for playing back videos: now when you click on a video search
> result, we put the page in a frame similar to how we display Google
> Images results.
> Cheers,
> -Paul

I love the look of the bright scrolling thumbnails, after a vid ends.
I have my vids scaled up and I can surf YouTube through my larger
frame.

I saw the option to disable the thumbnail previews.
If a few videos on a page have played or a few browsers
with played vids are open, I begin to have graphic performance issues
but I'd rather refresh the page than disable the option
because it's such a great way to explore other work by the artist.

http://thrilltone.com

Great job

regards,
Ra


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