Hi,

Regarding this statement in the TOS:

"The program must not be used to display or retrieve interactive
search results for end users"

I would like to know if I cannot show interactive search results to
end users for evaluations purposes during a limited time?
I'm designing an experiment where I would like to compare standard
Google results with re-ranked Google results.

Thanks in advance for your feedback,
--
Sérgio Nunes

I absolutely don't know the answer, but I'm also planning to do such
experiments and will be very happy to have an answer from google.

On Mar 19, 10:46 am, Sérgio Nunes <sergio.nu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Sergio,

Your interpretation of the terms of service is accurate; you are not allowed
to use this service to present search results to end users. This is
intentional, as this program was designed with large scale data analysis in
mind.

Thanks for asking for clarification.

Regards,
-Dan

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Sérgio Nunes <sergio.nu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the answer and thanks to include me in that mail. I fully
understand the purposes of Google and that the engine cannot be expose as
it... However from a technical point of view, it is somewhat difficult to
setup a experiment of "advanced" search without having a minimum of freedom
in the interfaces.

In my case, I would like to launch long term study on day-by-day use of a
personalized Google. To ensure better results, I will prefer to give access
to users as much as possible (including working hours and "home" hours). I
was aiming at having a secure login procedure to limit the access to the
application to people from my laboratory. But with the limitation you
propose, I'm not sure I'm able to design such experiment. I was thinking on
switching to live search or yahoo which have an API with less restriction,
but that could be a shame to miss the use of Google.

Do you have any idea how a consensus can be found ?

best regards

G.Dupont

On 31/03/2008, Dan Peterson <dpeter...@google.com> wrote:

--
Gérard Dupont
Perception & Machine Learning team - LITIS Laboratory

I have the exact same issue. I am working on an interactive web data mining application, and I need to evaluate it with end users. But it sounds like the terms of the license don't allow that.

Quite unfortunate. I might have to go for Amazon's search engine instead.

Alain

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Sent: Mon 31/03/2008 6:01 AM
To: dpeter...@google.com
Cc: google-research-search-program@googlegroups.com; sergio.nu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Showing results to end users?

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the answer and thanks to include me in that mail. I fully understand the purposes of Google and that the engine cannot be expose as it... However from a technical point of view, it is somewhat difficult to setup a experiment of "advanced" search without having a minimum of freedom in the interfaces.

In my case, I would like to launch long term study on day-by-day use of a personalized Google. To ensure better results, I will prefer to give access to users as much as possible (including working hours and "home" hours). I was aiming at having a secure login procedure to limit the access to the application to people from my laboratory. But with the limitation you propose, I'm not sure I'm able to design such experiment. I was thinking on switching to live search or yahoo which have an API with less restriction, but that could be a shame to miss the use of Google.

Do you have any idea how a consensus can be found ?

best regards

G.Dupont

On 31/03/2008, Dan Peterson <dpeter...@google.com> wrote:

        Hi Sergio,

        Your interpretation of the terms of service is accurate; you are not allowed to use this service to present search results to end users. This is intentional, as this program was designed with large scale data analysis in mind.

        Thanks for asking for clarification.

        Regards,
        -Dan

        On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Sérgio Nunes <sergio.nu...@gmail.com> wrote:

                Hi,

                Regarding this statement in the TOS:

                "The program must not be used to display or retrieve interactive
                search results for end users"

                I would like to know if I cannot show interactive search results to
                end users for evaluations purposes during a limited time?
                I'm designing an experiment where I would like to compare standard
                Google results with re-ranked Google results.

                Thanks in advance for your feedback,
                --
                Sérgio Nunes

--
Gérard Dupont
Perception & Machine Learning team - LITIS Laboratory

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your feedback on this issue.

I would like to joint the other people how commented on this thread to
also state that the user plays a critical role in any IR system. So it
would be really great if you could review your policy on this issue. I
think that some common ground could easily be reached - protect
Google's interest but also foster user-centered research on Web IR.

Best regards,
--
Sérgio Nunes

On 31/03/2008, Desilets, Alain <Alain.Desil...@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote: