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Barry Hunter  
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 More options May 29 2008, 5:56 pm
From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:56:19 +0100
Local: Thurs, May 29 2008 5:56 pm
Subject: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Introduction

In order to keep the map working at reasonable speed Google Maps needs
to limit the available features visible at once, quite simply the more
features shown the slower the map gets.

For MyMaps the features are split into pages, so that a reasonable
amount of data is shown on one page - effectively enough that will
work at a reasonable speed. This normally results in between 60-200
features at once, but sometimes that is not enough.

However Google Maps uses a different limited method when displaying
KML files; a regional geographical culling based method. A certain
number of features are shown, to give a reasonable overview, but then
as you zoom in more features become visible. This often results in
more results being visible, but importantly doesn't impose the
arbitrary pages, so its often more friendly on the user, as can just
zoom in on an area rather than flick though pages to find their area
of interest.

=====================================

the HowTo

And as MyMaps have an KML export, its quite easy to do. Unfortunately
the inbuilt KML export doesn't work with multiple pages, so :

* as you have multiple pages (as you reading this!) then I have a
little script to create a KML file that gets round the limitation:
....1. Goto http://www.nearby.org.uk/allMyMaps-to-kml.php
....2. Follow the instructions
....3. On the results page, right click the 'Download Google Earth KML
File' and copy the link to the clipboard

Now you have the URL of a KML file in the clipboard, simply return to
Google Maps, and paste in the URL in to the Search Box, and click
Search.

You should now see your MyMap content with the regional culling method
I mentioned :)

(Note: If you don't like the display of the nearby.org.uk domain in
the display, can simply download the KML file produced by the script
and host it on your own server, or googlepages.com for example)

=====================================

Going Further…

If want to 'share' it with others, just use the 'Link to this Page' to
get a shareable link

Note you can even save this 'display method' back to the MyMaps tab,
with the link on the left. Note you can even continue to edit the
source MyMap and after a few hours delay the changes will even show up
on the 'copy' - as the KML file is simply a 'geofeed' of the original
map (NetworkLink in KML parlance)

However if your map gains enough features that it splits onto an
additional page, when you will have to follow the above again, as the
KML has the number of pages hardcoded inside - I see no easy way round
this.

=====================================

Tags: features, Google Maps, lots, more, my maps, pages, split, stop paging


 
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 More options Jun 20 2008, 11:36 am
From: Sentinel <smsenti...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jun 20 2008 11:36 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
On No. 2 I can't find  'copy shortcut' or 'copy link location' on my
map. Where do I go to do this? What do I click on?
Thanks.

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Barry Hunter  
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 More options Jun 20 2008, 12:56 pm
From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:56:06 +0100
Local: Fri, Jun 20 2008 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
On Windows Safari, the menu option is called 'Copy Link', no idea what
it would be on a Mac (or if you even right click thinking about it now
- but there must be some way of getting a context menu)

--
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- www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk -


 
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Andy  
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From: Andy <aev...@martin-baker.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:29:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 9:29 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Good Afternoon,
Is there a way to print the multipaged map after you have used the
help link?

As i have now amalgamated all 3 of my pages into the one map and can
view all markers (via zooming) whihc total over 600+. However i now
have an issue with printing, as it has now resorted to only printing
the shawdows and not the actual markers which isn'tobviously what i
need.

Hope you can help as i urgently need to print the map.

Regards

Andy

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 More options Jul 9 2008, 11:41 am
From: Adam Bee <Charles.Adam....@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:41:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
I am having trouble getting to the nearby.org.uk site.  Is it out of
service?

Keep up the great work Barry!
Adam

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From: barryhunter <BarryBHun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:13:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2008 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
yes the site was down sorry, hopefully all working again fine now!

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From: Adam Bee <Charles.Adam....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:20:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 15 2008 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Great!  I really appreciate this service!

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 More options Jul 22 2008, 7:46 am
From: UNISON <webmas...@unison.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:46:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 22 2008 7:46 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
This site has been really helpful! Thanks Barry.

Does not appear to be working today tho' - I'm getting no pins
showing.

alison


 
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From: Ben <BBol...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 23 2008 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Barry,

I love using the KML trick to get around using multiple pages.
However, when I try and share this new map using the URL google
generates, all that appears is a blank map, and people cannot view the
map.

Is there any way for me to share this map with other users?


 
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Barry Hunter  
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 More options Jul 23 2008, 12:45 pm
From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:45:46 +0100
Local: Wed, Jul 23 2008 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Yes the page that is created should be shareable, just use the 'Link
to this map' when viewing it. You can also just share the link that is
generated by the tool. Something like
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://www.nearby......

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Ben <BBol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Barry,

> I love using the KML trick to get around using multiple pages.
> However, when I try and share this new map using the URL google
> generates, all that appears is a blank map, and people cannot view the
> map.

> Is there any way for me to share this map with other users?

--
Barry

- www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk -


 
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 More options Jul 24 2008, 2:05 pm
From: lisa <l...@theskanner.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:05:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Barry, I am searching fruitlessly for the "link to the last page (eg
3)," which has options to "select 'copy shortcut' or 'copy link
location'". Is it possible my stoopid Explorer browser is hiding
something (I'm so paranoid about it). This is as far as I can tell a
one-page map --- and I've started clicking away all over the place
just looking for things that give "select 'copy shortcut' or 'copy
link location'" options......I know I'm not an idiot. Where could I
look for the proper link location next? Sorry about this....L

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From: "kronhjorte.dk" <webmas...@kronhjorte.dk>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 02:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2008 5:02 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Hi Barry

I have set up a map using your service here: http://kronhjorte.dk/index.php?id=426

It worked well for a while, but then suddenly it stopped displaying
the areas. Since it stopped there has been an extra page added in the
pagination, I have tried to use your service again, but it simply
says: "there doesnt appear to be more than one page, please try again"

I'm pasting this URL to the service:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=da&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=10657...
For some reason it only provides a link back to page 1, but when you
click page 1, it will show you that there are 3 pages.

Can you help me?

- Søren

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From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:55:43 +0100
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2008 5:55 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
There seems to be a bug, in Google Maps paging?

The link you gave has &num=200&start=152 - normally num should be the
number per page, and start the first of the current page. However
clearly start should be a multiple of num, seems Google Maps has
started returning 200 for everyone (or at least most)

To get round this my script how actually downloads the first page of
the KML file, and actully counts the number of features in the KML
file (and thats all it does with the file it discards the data). But
in your case it gets 165 features?

This doesn't match you file, becuase if go back to page 1 you see
&num=200&start=76, which suggests there is 76 features per page - and
that matches actually counting the features on the page (no I didnt
count them manually!)

HOWEVER that does seem to suggest that Google no longer pages the KML
output (Yay if true!) - making this script redundent.

Can you please confirm if this map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=da&geocode=&q=http:%2F%2Fmaps.goog...
seems to show ALL the features of your map?

I'll try to confirm with other examples...

--
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- www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk -


 
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 More options Aug 2 2008, 6:31 am
From: "kronhjorte.dk" <webmas...@kronhjorte.dk>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2008 6:31 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Hi Barry

Thank you very much for your reply, it seems the link you provided
shows ALL features.

So if this is made intentionally by Google, I would agree that it
seems they have made your script redundant.

- Søren

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 More options Aug 2 2008, 6:55 am
From: barryhunter <BarryBHun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:55:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 2 2008 6:55 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
Yes, I've tried it with few more big My Maps, and the paging does seem
to be gone! Whoop!

That does mean that the script is not needed, and I have updated the
introduction with big message :)

So a message to anybody scrolling down the page (to try to catch your
attention)

==========================================

* UPDATE * * UPDATE * * UPDATE * * UPDATE *

Just use the link ‘View in Google Earth’, and paste it directly in the
search box to get access to the geographical culling method. No more
going and creating a kml file or any silliness.

* UPDATE * * UPDATE * * UPDATE * * UPDATE *

==========================================

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From: AC <acn...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:52:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 16 2008 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
This is great Barry.  I searched for hours for a solution to this
problem.  It seems odd that My maps has pagination in the first
place.  Is there anyway that I can embed the resulting map on an html
page?  When I click on the link provided it says it can't be
embedded??  If not, I have seen other users that have google maps with
well over 200 elements on one page.  Is there another way to build
maps besides using My Maps??

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Barry Hunter  
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From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:17:21 +0100
Local: Sat, Aug 16 2008 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
The map created like this should be embeddable - certainly has worked
in the past.

If GMaps seems confused a tip I have found useful - especially lately
with all the recent shake ups- is to go fresh to
http://maps.google.com/ and paste in the url into the search there. It
often seems to work better (I guess less previous settings to confuse
it...)

--
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 More options Aug 26 2008, 7:32 pm
From: Elena <nen...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:32:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 26 2008 7:32 pm
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps

Hi Barry;

This sounds like a fantastic workaround.  But!  There's no "View in
Google Earth" link on my map.  All I can see is Print, Send, and
Link.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Female-Friendly+Comi...

I can clearly see the "View in Google Earth" link on the sample map a
couple messages above (http://maps.google.com/maps?
f=q&hl=da&geocode=&q=http:%2F%2Fmaps.google.com%2Fmaps%2Fms%3Fhl%3Dda
%26ie%3DUTF8%26oe%3DUTF8%26msa%3D0%26output%3Dnl%26msid
%3D106576021581027287112.0004391131af2c40a3141&ie=UTF8&ll=55.646599,9.13925 2&spn=0.549431,1.235962&z=10&msa=0&msid=106576021581027287112.0004391131af2 c40a3141),
and in other maps that I view around Google.  Any idea why isn't it
showing up on my map?


 
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Barry Hunter  
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 More options Aug 27 2008, 5:22 am
From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:22:40 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 5:22 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps
That's not a 'My Map', which is what this trick is for. See your other
thread for the workaround for 'search results'.

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From: barryhunter <BarryBHun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:10:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 24 2008 7:10 am
Subject: Re: TIP: Alternative to paging on My Maps

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS THREAD CLOSED

As Google Maps have updated (as mentioned in the replies above), I
have started a new thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-How-Do-I/msg/b6e8e2bf1fd8a704


 
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