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Barry Hunter  
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 More options Oct 2 2008, 3:40 pm
From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:40:43 +0100
Local: Thurs, Oct 2 2008 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: Are google trying to steal our map data ?

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:27 PM, fred <fred_qwe...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> "11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the
> sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
> Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> Additional Terms of those Services."

Where do you find that in the Maps terms?

And I see that as content specfically submitted 'though' Google
services. That would be for example via My Maps - and Google needs
that licence to do it. Not so with a mashup made via the API. The data
is not going to Google, the maker of the site could impose their own
similar terms.

> Following on from the withdrawl of the contentious clause from googles
> chrome browser - e.g. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/macuser/news/222792/google-drops-claim-to-chro...
> should I be even more worried that its still in a range of their other
> products - e.g. Picasa and the google maps api - or are they going to
> remove it from those as well ?

> In the UK the OS regulalry claim rights to derived data to the Nth
> degree - even a GPS position that has been checked against a map of
> theirs they consider derived -

Its not quite as 'far reaching' as that. A point plotted on their map
(particully with the OpenSpace API) they may consider derived
information, not every point displayed.

>  this could mean that they consider that
> just about anyone in the UK adding data onto a google map would be in
> breach of OS copyright.

> Surely this isn't what google wants or means - if they can remove it
> from Chrome - why can't they remove it from the maps TOU - hopefully
> its just an oversight that will rapidly be rectified - otherwise I'll
> have to look at Virtual Earth again.

> Any views ?

--
Barry

- www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk -


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