New features launched on Mapmaker

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Chandan Shanbhag

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:07:54 AM12/9/09
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Hi mappers,

  With the recently completed server upgrade, we have launched the following new features in Google Mapmaker.

  • Multi-segment road editing! this was requested by many of you - enables the easy selection of multiple road segments and then application of a particular road attribute or road name to the selected segments (resolves issue tracker entries #18, 20, 60 and 82).
  • Drafts -- unfinished edits are automatically saved and can be re-opened, edited and submitted at a later time (resolves issue #27).
  • Points of interest(POI) editing improvements
    • POI in a pending state can be edited
    • more than one person can edit a POI simultaneously
    • moderators can selectively deny attributes which are incorrect. 
  • Move features anywhere -- there is no longer a 200 meter move limitation.

Please try these out. Feel free to gives us feedback about these features or any issues that you encounter.

Happy Mapping
Chandan Shanbhag
Google Mapmaker

JenMazz

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:14:37 AM12/9/09
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Hey everyone,

We're working on updating the Help Center articles for Map Maker to
reflect these new features. We're shooting to have the new help
content within 24 hours.

Cheers,

Jen.

On Dec 9, 1:07 am, Chandan Shanbhag <cshanb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi mappers,
>
>   With the recently completed server upgrade, we have launched the following
> new features in Google Mapmaker.
>
>    - Multi-segment road editing! this was requested by many of you - enables
>    the easy selection of multiple road segments and then application of a
>    particular road attribute or road name to the selected segments (resolves
>    issue tracker entries
> #18<http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=18>,
>    20 <http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=20>, 60
>    <http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=60>and
> 82<http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=82>
>    ).
>    - Drafts -- unfinished edits are automatically saved and can be
>    re-opened, edited and submitted at a later time (resolves issue
> #27<http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=27>
>    ).
>    - Points of interest(POI) editing improvements
>       - POI in a pending state can be edited
>       - more than one person can edit a POI simultaneously
>       - moderators can selectively deny attributes which are incorrect.
>    - Move features anywhere -- there is no longer a 200 meter move

Faraz Ahmad

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:47:36 AM12/9/09
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cab you explain how the Multi-segment road editing work. 
Faraz Ahmad
http://farazilu.blogspot.com


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momers

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:58:44 AM12/9/09
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I m seeing some messy things happening when redrawing road segments i
deleted earlier. e.g. 3 parallel road segments appearing when road
drawn once only! each segment has different intersection nodes . Speed
auto changed to 60kmph despite specifying 50kmph.

if i re encounter i will post again with details. trying to fix myself
for now .


On Dec 9, 2:07 pm, Chandan Shanbhag <cshanb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi mappers,
>
>   With the recently completed server upgrade, we have launched the following
> new features in Google Mapmaker.
>
>    - Multi-segment road editing! this was requested by many of you - enables
>    the easy selection of multiple road segments and then application of a
>    particular road attribute or road name to the selected segments (resolves
>    issue tracker entries
>    - Drafts -- unfinished edits are automatically saved and can be
>    re-opened, edited and submitted at a later time (resolves issue
> #27<http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=27>
>    ).
>    - Points of interest(POI) editing improvements
>       - POI in a pending state can be edited
>       - more than one person can edit a POI simultaneously
>       - moderators can selectively deny attributes which are incorrect.
>    - Move features anywhere -- there is no longer a 200 meter move

Prateek

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Dec 9, 2009, 5:10:21 AM12/9/09
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Good news!

It would have been nicer to have more fine-grained control over
exactly which road segments are included, though. Also, this
introduces "routes" - so now do we have roads, road segments, and
routes? I hope we have some clarification on the terminology and what
GMM's model of roads is.

nhk

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Dec 9, 2009, 5:13:21 AM12/9/09
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Info window is not appearing.

Is the maintenance period over?

regards

K A

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:38:18 AM12/9/09
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Thanks
 
all the upgrades are really usefull
 
Regards
KA.



 
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Aneesh Naman (अनीष नमन)

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:57:58 AM12/9/09
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Hi all,

Some pointers before we update all the help pages :)

For the Multi-segment editing, you have two options - A. attributes and B. route associations.

A. Attributes editing should be easy to use - works similar to when you edit a single segment.
    Whatever changes you make, are applied to all the selected segments.

B. Editing route-associations
   Selecting this should show you all the 'routes' that are associated to the selected segments.
   So if you have NH1 and NH2 overlapping over the selected segments, then both of them should show up n the list.
   After this you can extend/remove one or more of these routes.
   e.g. you can say 'remove NH1 from all' and 'extend NH2 to all',
   After this edit gets published, all the selected segments will be under the 'route' NH2 and not NH1.

   Also you can create an entirely new route by giving the name in the input below.
   e.g. you might want to remove both NH1 and NH2 and add an NH3.

Hope this helps.

-aneesh
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aneeshnaman

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Dec 9, 2009, 5:18:08 AM12/9/09
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Hi all,

Some pointers before we update the help pages :)

For Multi-segment editing, you have two options - A. attributes and B.
route associations.

A. Attributes editing should be easy to use - works similar to when
you edit a single segment.
Whatever changes you make, are applied to all the selected
segments.

B. Editing route-associations
Selecting this should show you all the 'routes' that are associated
to the selected segments.
So if you have NH1 and NH2 overlapping over the selected segments,
then both of them should show up n the list.
After this you can extend/remove one or more of these routes.
e.g. you can say 'remove NH1 from all' and 'extend NH2 to all',
After this edit gets published, all the selected segments will be
under the 'route' NH2 and not NH1.

Also you can create an entirely new route by giving the name in the
input below.
e.g. you might want to remove both NH1 and NH2 and add an NH3.

NOTE: You can add/remove more than one route here. Also, editing
such that a segment ends up being orphan,
i.e. does not have any route associated to it, is not allowed.

Hope this helps.

Aneesh
Google Map Maker

aneeshnaman

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Dec 9, 2009, 6:10:12 AM12/9/09
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Yes, we have recognized this, and are working on this one.

Drago

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Dec 9, 2009, 1:11:08 PM12/9/09
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It seems that the road name(s) are not allowed to be changed.

JenMazz

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:22:15 PM12/9/09
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Dear Drago,

Road name(s) are allowed to be changed actually -- you have to use the
"Edit route associations" option in the left pane.

We'll post some documentation today for sure.

Cheers,

Jen.

JenMazz

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:24:08 PM12/9/09
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Dear All,

There's one more important issue that is now resolved with this
release: the infamous "Page gets stale" problem.
http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=9

We'll make this issue resolved in the issue tracker shortly.

Cheers,

Jen.

momers

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Dec 10, 2009, 1:39:55 AM12/10/09
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Dear GMM,

Some observations so far after yesterdays update. Please confirm if
they are bugs or features?


1. Urdu script names appearing as default view in mapmaker even when
they are in the second name row and the first row is English script
(but TYPE of name is the same). This is for new localities/sub
localities edited or entered. Is this a new localization feature?

2. Hitting enter in search box says 'can not serve this request', u
have to manually press the search button

3. Local road speed default now is 50 instead of 30. Which is a bit
high don’t u think…?

4. Drop down for new roads Type attribute doesn’t always drop down and
arrow keys need to be used.

5. When a road name is searched for, the results do not highlight the
road in a blue rectangle (as done earlier) so one is unable to tell
what area the road spans, or in case of multiple results, which road
section is being highlighted. This used to be a big blue polygon
visible when search results were clicked.





On Dec 10, 2:24 am, JenMazz <jenmaz...@google.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> There's one more important issue that is now resolved with this
> release: the infamous "Page gets stale" problem.http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=9

JenMazz

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Dec 10, 2009, 3:48:56 AM12/10/09
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Dear Momers,

Great feedback -- thanks so much! We're aware of the search box issue
(#2) and we're working on a solution. We'll investigate the other
issues you've raised.

Cheers,

Jen.

JenMazz

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Dec 10, 2009, 4:04:04 AM12/10/09
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I posted minutes too soon...the search box issues should now be
resolved :-)

Dan C.

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Dec 10, 2009, 4:56:16 AM12/10/09
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momers & Jen,

I actually find the change of default speed limit to 50 km/h for local
roads a great improvement :). This is because in Romania (and most of
Europe, actually), this is the default legal speed limit for roads
inside a city (and this is where we use the local roads more often).

Remember, the speed limit we enter is the legal speed limit. With the
previous 30 km/h, we got thousands of local roads incorrectly set at
default 30 km/h (just because most people don't bother setting it
correctly).

So do think twice before reverting back this change :)

Of course, a much better improvement would be to make defaults country-
specific, so that each country gets the legal speed limitation as
default. E.g. secondary roads mostly use 90 km/h (they're mostly used
outside cities), minor/major arterials should also be set to 50 km/h
(they're only used inside city limits) and so on.

wdmanuel

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Dec 10, 2009, 6:29:43 AM12/10/09
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There were several categories that were removed that I think were very
descriptive. What are the replacements?

The ones that I want are:

Apartment Complex
Apartment Building
Office complex
Office building

Cool Runnings

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Dec 10, 2009, 9:09:14 AM12/10/09
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For apartment complex and Building it has consolidated in to Apartment
For office complex and building there does not appear to be a suitable option any more . . .


Jabran

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Dec 10, 2009, 9:58:09 AM12/10/09
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That's not good enough.. Is it?

Regards,
جabran


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twist3r

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Dec 10, 2009, 11:58:09 AM12/10/09
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I see some kind of bug i think. Instead of displaying name of the
feature it appears only a tilde (~) . See two examples :

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=45.879033,22.903426&fr=0.000149,0.000215&mpp=0.415732&gw=39&ll=45.88009,22.903726&spn=0.002693,0.005107&z=18&iwloc=0_0&fid=5138310933502815041:7453748456952975225&dtab=overview

and

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=45.946375,23.016787&fr=0.002387,0.003433&mpp=6.644162&gw=39&ll=45.962726,23.022108&spn=0.043017,0.081711&z=14&iwloc=0_0&fid=5138206227761451373:13352489671697516620&dtab=overview

What could be the problem ?

On Dec 10, 4:58 pm, Jabran <jabranrafi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's not good enough.. Is it?
>
> Regards,
> جabranwww.local.com.pkwww.dyzynz.net
>
> -----------------------
> Sent from iPhone
>
> On 10 Dec 2009, at 14:09, Cool Runnings <ajsp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For apartment complex and Building it has consolidated in to Apartment
> > For office complex and building there does not appear to be a  
> > suitable option any more . . .
>

Gorio

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Dec 10, 2009, 12:27:35 PM12/10/09
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Since we seem to pointing out bugs in this thread here's one:

When you approve a feature in moderation but check the "Deny this
change" box it doesn't deny the change. The feature is published with
the incorrect data intact. In this case, specifically, it was an
incorrrect population for a sub-locality.

More importantly, doesn't anyone at Google think it is completely
backward to release the features without first having a guide on how
to use them? Writing the user guide is actually very hard to do but it
is a good test of the usability of the feature and the intuitiveness
of the interface.

Releasing feature updates without having a guide or anything to
explain how it works and how to use it is very juvenile development
don't you think? I would've expected this kind of feature release from
a highschool kid not a multi billion dollar company.


On Dec 11, 12:58 am, twist3r <popescu.constan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see some kind of bug i think. Instead of displaying name of the
> feature it appears only a tilde (~) . See two examples :
>
> http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=45.879033,22.903426&fr=0.000...
>
> and
>
> http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=45.946375,23.016787&fr=0.002...
> > > .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Gorio

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Dec 10, 2009, 12:37:36 PM12/10/09
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When I try to "Rate the edit" the "Deny this change" boxes come back.
I hope that is a bug as well because it doesn't make any sense to have
them come back.

Oh, and the population attribute is listed twice when I try to "rate
the edit" for the feature mentioned above.

By the way, what the heck is "Dont Know" for, and there is supposed to
be an appostrophe in "...Don't...".
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

Jabran

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Dec 10, 2009, 12:50:20 PM12/10/09
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Agree! I tried this moderation feature as well resulting nothing
exciting!

Regards,
جabran
www.local.com.pk
www.dyzynz.net


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momers

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Dec 11, 2009, 12:12:51 AM12/11/09
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Dear Jen and Others,

In continuation of above list, here are two more observations:

6. After a locality is edited only the older polygon boundaries appear
as dark grey (which signifies awaiting moderation) and the new
modified polygon boundaries are not visible while the locality is
pending approval. this was not the case earlier. after an edit to a
polygon which was pending the NEW boundaries would appear highlighted
while awaiting moderation.
eg. When i was editing Sukh Chayn Gardens & Sectort A polygons here:
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=31.391799,74.163315&spn=0.011192,0.023861&t=h&z=16

After my edit since only the older boundaries were visible while
pending moderation, i was quite confused if my changes had been
captured and applied or lost to some bug.

7. The interface for the new 'Select a Segment' tool appears in the
left pane...why...why not in a balloon like the rest of the dialogues
which pop up inside the map frame? UI inconsistency?!

8. Refer to my first post here about Messy Things happening on new
roads, (4th comment from top), I have encountered that again. I will
post back with details of how to reproduce those conditions and where
to find them.

JenMazz

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Dec 11, 2009, 1:15:26 AM12/11/09
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Great feedback, Dan -- thank you! I agree that country-specific
default speed limits would be an ideal solution...care to enter that
one in the issue tracker?

Jen.

JenMazz

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Dec 11, 2009, 1:21:50 AM12/11/09
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Dear Gorio,

Can you please post a link to the feature where the attribute that you
denied was still published? That will help us investigate the issue.

If there are specific questions you have about the functionality that
aren't covered in the Help Center articles, please let me know. We
updated several articles within 24 hours of the release, and will
continue to review and update them over the next several days.

Cheers,

Jen.

JenMazz

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Dec 11, 2009, 1:27:32 AM12/11/09
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Dear momers,

The change you see in #6 is because we now allow multiple pending
edits to POIs and polygons. Before, we could easily display the
pending state because there was only 1 at all times. That's no longer
the case. I can see how that lack of visual feedback might be
disconcerting.

On #7, the benefit of using the left pane for editing is that we don't
have to block the viewport. Rest assured that, we fully intent to
converge the editing experience and ensure consistency over time.

On #8, thanks so much for your efforts to reproduce the issue. You
obviously understand that if we can't reproduce an issue, we can't
diagnose & fix it.

Cheers,

Jen.

On Dec 10, 9:12 pm, momers <mom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Jen and Others,
>
> In continuation of above list, here are two more observations:
>
> 6. After a locality is edited only the older polygon boundaries appear
> as dark grey (which signifies awaiting moderation) and the new
> modified polygon boundaries are not visible while the locality is
> pending approval. this was not the case earlier. after an edit to a
> polygon which was pending the NEW boundaries would appear highlighted
> while awaiting moderation.
> eg. When i was editing Sukh Chayn Gardens & Sectort A polygons here:http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=31.391799,74.163315&spn=0.011192,0....

momers

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Dec 11, 2009, 5:40:21 AM12/11/09
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Jen and Others.

With Reference to Issue 8.

You will need to link to this album to view screen shots:
http://picasaweb.google.com/momers/NewRoadIssues?feat=directlink
-------------------------
Description and how to Reproduce problem.

Link on MapMaker
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&gw=10&ll=33.730291,73.078705&spn=0.002726,0.005965&t=h&z=18

AlbumLink: MessyRoad1

Select SEARCH tool and click the Agha Khan Road (Minor Arterial) next
to TEMP 2 POI
Three segments of the road heading East show up. One segment of West
direction highlighted.

AlbumLink: MessyRoad2

Note that this road was added prior to the major upgrade.

1. First off notice that the direction of the road segment next to
TEMP 2 is OPPOSITE to the direction given to the entire road heading
East. The direction of that segment is WEST.

AlbumLink: MessyRoad2a

2. Mouse over the road segment next to TEMP 1.

Notice that the road is highlighted such that it covers TEMP 1 and
Temp 2 regions, DESPITE the fact that TEMP 1 & TEMP 2 have an
intersection in between! Only temp 1 section should have been
highlighted.

AlbumLink: MessyRoad3

3. Mouse over road section next to Temp 2.

This road is highlighted correctly , i.e only the road section between
the two intersection points. It doesn’t spill over into region Temp 1
or Temp 3 like the previous case.

AlbumLink: MessyRoad4

4. Mouse over road section next to Temp 3

Similar behavior to that of Temp 1 road section. This road gets
highlighted up to the intersection of Temp 1 & Temp2 regions,
completely ignoring the two intersections/nodes on it.

AlbumLink: MessyRoad5

Overview: AlbumLink: Messyroad6

-----------------

I had faced this same issue here on East direction of Noor Jehan Road
in Lahore:
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=31.509401,74.344418&spn=0.002794,0.005965&z=18
Tried to fix it manually by deleting segments but lets see how it
renders.

There goes!

essempee

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I tried select segment but the resultant panel does not allow RENAME
the selected segments. As pointed out by many, there are roads that
are created as a single one where as the same has different names
along the stretch.

On Dec 9, 2:14 pm, JenMazz <jenmaz...@google.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> We're working on updating the Help Center articles for Map Maker to
> reflect these new features. We're shooting to have the new help
> content within 24 hours.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jen.
>
> On Dec 9, 1:07 am, Chandan Shanbhag <cshanb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi mappers,
>
> >   With the recently completed server upgrade, we have launched the following
> > new features in Google Mapmaker.
>
> >    - Multi-segment road editing! this was requested by many of you - enables
> >    the easy selection of multiple road segments and then application of a
> >    particular road attribute or road name to the selected segments (resolves
> >    issue tracker entries
> >    - Drafts -- unfinished edits are automatically saved and can be
> >    re-opened, edited and submitted at a later time (resolves issue
> > #27<http://code.google.com/p/google-mapmaker/issues/detail?id=27>
> >    ).
> >    - Points of interest(POI) editing improvements
> >       - POI in a pending state can be edited
> >       - more than one person can edit a POI simultaneously
> >       - moderators can selectively deny attributes which are incorrect.
> >    - Move features anywhere -- there is no longer a 200 meter move
> >    limitation.
>
> > Please try these out. Feel free to gives us feedback about these features or
> > any issues that you encounter.
>
> > Happy Mapping
> > Chandan Shanbhag
> > Google Mapmaker- Hide quoted text -

Chandra Sekhar P

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Hi please see the comments inline

7. The interface for the new 'Select a Segment' tool appears in the
left pane...why...why not in a balloon like the rest of the dialogues
which pop up inside the map frame? UI inconsistency?!
 
 Visualize  a road having Many  names associated, the info window will become messy Moving to Left pane will make it easier to associate roads


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Thanks and Regards
Chandra Sekhar  P

Multiple roads.GIF

Bejtush Cimili

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Dear all,

I think it would be much easier to add a feature under
"Select a segment">>>"Edit route associations" a feature to change all at once,
 Instead of e.g. 30 boring edits !!! (Of course if the road should be changed all to e.g. "Extend to all" or "Remove from all")
(By the way i am not so lazzy to edit them all but, it would give me more "power" to work more or longer.)

I think it would be better for all os us!!!
Any Idea???

Cheers
Mrbejta

JenMazz

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Dec 11, 2009, 4:13:21 PM12/11/09
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Dear twist3r,

We did another update last night and fixed this issue. Some features
added before this update will need to be may continue to display this
problem temporarily, however in most cases the issue should no longer
appear.

Thanks for reporting the issue!

Cheers,

Jen.

On Dec 10, 8:58 am, twist3r <popescu.constan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see some kind of bug i think. Instead of displaying name of the
> feature it appears only a tilde (~) . See two examples :
>
> http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=45.879033,22.903426&fr=0.000...
>
> and
>
> http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=45.946375,23.016787&fr=0.002...

JenMazz

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Dec 11, 2009, 4:58:00 PM12/11/09
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Dear Gorio & Jabran,

We did another update last night & fixed the "Deny this change"
option. It also won't appear at all on the "rate this edit" panel. One
important note about this option is that only the attributes approved
by the last moderator whose approval made the change go live will be
published.

Regarding the Don't know button, yes we'll have to add an
apostrophe ;-} The Don't know option indicate in the feature history
that you aren't sure whether the feature should be approved or denied.
A similar option used to be in a radio button at the top just after
"Request Details."

We've updated the "Moderating options" article in the Help Center with
this information:
http://maps.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=155661

Cheers,

Jen.


On Dec 10, 9:50 am, Jabran <jabranrafi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agree! I tried this moderation feature as well resulting nothing  
> exciting!
>
> Regards,
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Gorio

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Dear Google Map Maker people,

I can't help but feel a bit betrayed/confused/disappointed by this
latest release. This latest release is quite frankly, junk/garbage/
basura (choose a word you prefer:-).

It is buggy, it is clunky, it is not intuitive. Even if if works to
specs I'm not sure those specs are any good in the first place. I know
you had the best of intentions and were trying to give the user
community what it was asking for but best intentions, and 50 pesos, $1
USD, 44 baht (choose a currency you prefer:-) gets you a cup of
coffee. In other words, best intentions are worth nothing by
themselves they only have value if they are executed well. As in "I'm
sorry I shot you by accident, I was just trying to kill a mosquito on
your arm,".

So I know someone might say "Wait, it has only been a few days,
software releases are always buggy, it can be fixed." To that I reply,
buggy is when 90% of it works but there are a few kinks or exceptions
to the rule. This is not buggy. In by buggy/not buggy assesment I may
have included features that actually do work to specifications but I
wouldn't know that since I HAVE NO MANUAL or even a THIS IS WHAT WE
WERE TRYING TO DO document that I can read. Whose fault is that?
Hmmm....

Anyway, back to my poor, trampled on, feelings:-)

Betrayed - It feels like you didn't care about the user community and
just released whatever you wanted, whenever you wanted. No
consultation, no beta test, not even a "Please bear with us". You were
mighty quick to erase things off the issue tracker. You didn't even
care to make sure what you released actually worked before you had
slapped "Fixed" on the issues.

Confused - Well, what the heck is going on at Google? What exactly
were they trying to do? Why is this release so bad? Why do I think
this release is so bad......hmm, lack of communication from Google
maybe........hmm, I think I may have solved at least the reason for
this one. On to the next....

Disappointed - I was looking forward to having our requests answered
and the bugs fixed. I thought you would be too. After all, the fixes/
enhancements gets Google better data. The users don't get anything out
of this except for trying to help you correctly map the world. There
is no money for us in this endeavor, only you. Are all the google
staff that worked on this release volunteers? If so, then let me be
the first to say: Sorry, maybe I'm too harsh.

I know no one had malicious intentions and I'm sure many smart people
worked very hard trying to do what they thought was right or at least
they were told was right by someone higher up the ladder than them.
But again, that is all useless and for naught if the end product
execution is lousy and you produce something that is difficult to
undestand and use.

Please communicate with the user community in a much better manner.
Release screen shots, mock ups of what a proposed interface would look
like and ask for comment, etc. Ask a few "super" users to log in to a
special account to try the interfaces before they are released.
Anything but what you just did........

That's all.

P.S: C'mon. How can it be that no one at google saw that the text on a
prominent new button is spelled incorrectly? Really? You can't catch
the missing appostrophe in "don't"? Really? Seriously? By the way, I
still don't know what the "Don't Know" button is used for.



On Dec 11, 1:12 pm, momers <mom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Jen and Others,
>
> In continuation of above list, here are two more observations:
>
> 6. After a locality is edited only the older polygon boundaries appear
> as dark grey (which signifies awaiting moderation) and the new
> modified polygon boundaries are not visible while the locality is
> pending approval. this was not the case earlier. after an edit to a
> polygon which was pending the NEW boundaries would appear highlighted
> while awaiting moderation.
> eg. When i was editing Sukh Chayn Gardens & Sectort A polygons here:http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=31.391799,74.163315&spn=0.011192,0....
> > > > > Jen.- Hide quoted text -

Gorio

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A little egg on my face.....I didn't realize there was a Page 2 in
this thread. Thanks for the follow up seen on page 2 and also for the
response to my previous posts. Nothing on page 2 however changes my
previous comments.

Even the "Don't know" button that Jen has explained a cople of emails
ago (on page 2) is still a mystery. Even though I now know that
"...The Don't know option indicate in the feature history that you
aren't sure whether the feature should be approved or denied." It
still doesn't answer why is it there? Did someone actually ask to
indicate "I don't know"? What good does that do?
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

Gorio

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Jen,

The additions to the moderation page are helpful. Thanks. Will only
things that have been changed show up with a "Deny this change" box?

Currently, newly added features show up with "Deny this change" boxes
but there is no change. It is misleading.

Another bug:

When you click on moderate in the left tab and then click on a feature
to moderate sometimes it goes to the area and shows the yellow
"thingy" on the map but it doesn't open up the moderation balloon.
Then I click on the "thingy" to open the balloon, moderate, and then
save. The balloon closes but the detailed listing in the left pane
doesn't close. I can still click on the moderate hyperlink on the left
page and it opens up the balloon for the object but it is no longer
moderatable, because I've already moderated it. If I choose "Moderate"
in the top of the left pane it always goes back to the same detailed
information for the original feature under moderation (that I've
already moderated) and even clicking on "Refresh moderation....."
won't give me anything new. The detailed information is stuck in the
pane for Moderate.

I'll try to find the example where it published "Deny this change"
material. I'm not sure I can find it though.

Gorio

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When you click on the "This feature has X changes pending moderation"
it takes you to the History tab. Why? I can't moderate from there and
it doesn't tell me what the change is that is pending. If it is a
completely new addition to GMM then it should not say "...X
changes..", that makes you think the feature was already there and
someone just changed one aspect or attribute. Also, why don't you have
it go to the moderation tab where you could actually take some action
on it, since it is in moderation.

To answer my own question above, it does have "Deny this change" next
to attributes that were not changed. That should be fixed so that only
attributes that were changed have it. A simpler and easier to
implement solution would be just to have "Deny this" so that it
doesn't matter wether or not it was a "change" or a new addition.

Gorio

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If I right click in an area and I get a yellow thingy (moderation) I
can click on it to get the initial balloon. When I click on the
"Moderate" hyperlink it usually does not open up the balloon to allow
me to moderate. It just closes the initial balloon and does nothing.
If I click on the thingy again I get the initial balloon back again.
If I click on the "Moderate" hyperlink it opens the moderation balloon
the secon time around. I am using Win XP SP3 and IE7.0

Seperately but related: The Don't Know button does not work as your
previous posting indicates. Not that I know why you would do it but if
you click the "Don't know" button nothing is recorded in the history.
If you open the feature again there is no reference to someone
previously clicking "Don't know".

Really, what is the point of clicking "Don't know" anyway? You've
given it a prominent position, is there something I'm missing? Please
show me up and I'll shut up. Anyone else please feel free to weigh in.
> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

Gorio

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More Bugs:

There is an edit that was up for moderation. I approved it with a
comment. The message at the top of the screen indicated it was
approved. Now when I "Find near this point" it still comes up with the
"thingy" that is yellow, indicating it is still under moderation. I
click on the "thingy" and it pops up a balloon that shows that the
second to last change was approved, not the last one.

Are we able to queue up changes in moderation now? How does that work?
That should also be in your user manual/help page.

Next, i clicked on the moderate hyperlink again (remember, I
apparently only approved the second to last moderation) this time I
get a moderation balloon that has the same name change as the first
one I had already approved except this now has a "Deny this change /
Apply this change" radio button next to the name. What is this? The
"moderation options" help page doesn't have "Apply this change" as an
option. What happened to that when you all were writing the help
section? Maybe some rogue programmer slipped that in in the last
moment before you released the update. Ok, Ok, maybe I'm a little too
sarcastic on that one.

But seriously, what is the "Deny this change/Apply this change" for?

FYI. I approved the edit again but without selecting either Deny or
Apply and I get the error message "Cannot apply the change to the
approved state." It should keep the moderation balloon open and force
me to choose.

I open the feature under moderation again and this time I select
"apply" and approve and hit save. Again I get the error message
"Cannot apply the change to the approved state". Put that one in your
bug list too.


http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=15.167868,120.543097&fr=0.000414,0.000429&mpp=1.152721&gw=39&ll=15.171181,120.543258&spn=0.007445,0.010171&z=17&iwloc=0_0&fid=3717425329457831383:12724052947313944483&dtab=history

Gorio

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The link below goes to a history tab that has the following entry:

"Removed route: Deleted Unnamed" (unnamed is in red and has a line
through it)

You can check on this to prove me wrong but I highly doubt that the
route that was removed was called "Deleted". More likely it was just
unnamed. The "Deleted" and the red strike-through are not necessary
and confusing.

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&iwloc=0_0&ll=15.160381,120.59481&spn=0.007446,0.010171&z=17&editids=CrzBX6qanKe8RwzNzr&dtab=history
> http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=15.167868,120.543097&fr=0.00...

Gorio

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Help Center addition: For the "Select a segment Tool" you must follow
the direction of traffic for the roads you are trying to select. For
instance, if A is downstream of B on a one way road it won't highlight
the shortest path between A and B, it will look for a way to follow
the traffic to get from point A to point B.

Contrary to Mapmaker Guide and Chandan's assesment that Issue #20 is
now fixed, I can see no way that that is true. Issue #20 had to do
with splitting a single road without having to delete and redraw the
entire portion of the road that you want to split off. How do you
split it with the Select a Segment tool? You can select the road
sections you want to split but then what? There is nothing in the help
center about this and I have tried the tool itself and can find no way
to split them into two seperate roads. Please tell me how or put issue
# 20 back and please come up with a way to split roads. As I recall it
was quite high in the ranking and quite important to the users.

Help Center addition: How do I post a photo to a particular discussion
thread? It is not in the Google Groups Help/Pages and Postings section
(including the Uploading Files and Photos sub section). It would help
users and yourselves to have a photo to help illustrate some of the
bugs/etc.

Lately I've seen some talk about how to select an entire road in order
to delete the entire road. Does that functionality really now exist? I
can't find that functionality on the Help Center.

"Editing an Entire Road" section in the help center is outdated with
this new release. New text and screen shot are required.

Bug:

I edited a route. Then I clicked on the hyperlink for the edit I just
did, which was listed on the left hand side under My Changes/Published
changes. Then I clicked on the Edit/Edit route associations in the
balloon and, seperately, Edit/Edit path attributes in the balloon.
Nothing happens, the edit screens won't open.

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&gw=55&ll=14.599729,120.977057&spn=0.003732,0.005085&z=18&iwloc=2_0&editids=cIbtG9-h8gwZCqckRf

Thanks.


On Dec 12, 9:04 pm, Gorio <greg.emb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The link below goes to a history tab that has the following entry:
>
> "Removed route: Deleted Unnamed" (unnamed is in red and has a line
> through it)
>
> You can check on this to prove me wrong but I highly doubt that the
> route that was removed was called "Deleted". More likely it was just
> unnamed. The "Deleted" and the red strike-through are not necessary
> and confusing.
>
> http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&iwloc=0_0&ll=15.160381,120.59481...

Gorio

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I think you should also put back issue #82. I cannot see how that one
is fixed yet either. As I said above, I don't see how you can split
roads that are only one route to begin with. You can remove a route
from a multi route road but once you get down to one route you can't
then split it into two separate roads. That is what we wanted the
ability to do, as evidenced by Issue #82.
> http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&gw=55&ll=14.599729,120.977057&sp...

Amardeep Singh

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Hi Gorio,

You should be able to do this.  Let's say a path is marked route R, but a subpath
there is actually route R1 and not R. Select the subpath which is incorrectly marked
R, and from there, delete R, and add a new route R1. If i understand you correctly,
this should solve your problem.

Amar

KA.

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Hello All

Please see the attached screen shot. 
The selected edit in the left pane My MapMaker > Overview is being shown as Denied that not actually is. 
I just created that road and did undo the edit from pending state. which then said it to be denied.

another case is right after one edit, named "Housing Colony (Sub-Locality)" this is also being shown as denied, what not actually is. I edited the locality first and undid the edit when it went to pending state.

Is it a bug? as it was not like that before.

Thanks

Regards
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Faraz Ahmad

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Hi good work only one cencern why ur not connecting road, just don't leave dead ends. try to connect it with other road even Main roads. plz 
Faraz Ahmad
http://farazilu.blogspot.com


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Latest upgrade brought way too many bugs this time! It surely is a sort of bug i suppose. Faraz is pointing to these roads btw. Cheers

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2009/12/13 Faraz Ahmad <fara...@gmail.com>

shreyas

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Hi,

I just saw the "Save as draft" feature on GMM.Its very useful,
especially for edits like a huge lake or a reservoir or an island.
But I didn't find it while making the edit first time.It popped up as
a draft the next time I logged in.
So I was wondering how it exactly works.How can I be sure that an
incomplete edit will be saved as a draft, is there an explicit way to
indicate that.

Also, there can be conflicts when someone edits a plce which has been
saved as a draft by someone else.How are those issues resolved?

shreyas

Gorio

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Hi Amardeep,

Unfortunately that is not what I am talking about. But I think I have
solved my own problem.

What you have to do is use the select a segment tool to select the
segment of a road that you want to split off of a longer road, not the
entire road. Then you remove the old route (there is only one) and
then you add a new route which is what you want to call the portion
that you are splitting off.

Having said that I guess you can leave #20 and #82 on the fixed list
provided you also add the technique to the help center to make it
clear and easy for all to understand and use. It would've been helpful
to have it there from the start.

Bug:
The select a segment tool always gives a "Could not find path" in the
area of the link below.

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&saddr=4.57804,114.220819&daddr=4.578564,114.226452&dirflg=&gw=78&ll=4.577409,114.224274&spn=0.006053,0.010214&z=17

I guess I've shown myself up about road splitting so I'll shut up
about this now:-)

On Dec 13, 9:37 am, Jabran <jabranrafi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Latest upgrade brought way too many bugs this time! It surely is a sort of
> bug i suppose. Faraz is pointing to these
> roads<http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=31.703867,74.016572&fr=0.000...>btw.
> Cheers
>
> Regards,
> جabran
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> 2009/12/13 Faraz Ahmad <faraz...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> > Hi good work only one cencern why ur not connecting road, just don't leave
> > dead ends. try to connect it with other road even Main roads. plz
> > Faraz Ahmad
> >http://farazilu.blogspot.com
>
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:27 AM, KA. <khurra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hello All
>
> >> Please see the attached screen shot.
> >> The selected edit in the left pane My MapMaker > Overview is being shown
> >> as Denied that not actually is.
> >> I just created that road and did undo the edit from pending state. which
> >> then said it to be denied.
>
> >>http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=31.704045,74.01478&spn=0.003049,0.0...
>
> >> another case is right after one edit, named "Housing Colony
> >> (Sub-Locality)" this is also being shown as denied, what not actually is. I
> >> edited the locality first and undid the edit when it went to pending state.
>
> >>http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=31.708199,74.02281&spn=0.012194,0.0...
>
> >> Is it a bug? as it was not like that before.
>
> >> Thanks
>
> >> Regards
> >> KA.
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Yeah, thanks Jabran and Faraz.

 
> one cencern why ur not connecting road, just don't leave dead ends.
> try to connect it with other road even Main roads. plz 
 
I exactly was having the idea of it to be pointed out by some one of you guys ;)
I was also willing to connect them, may be, just kept my self in control to leave them unconnected. I was actually leaving the Lahore Road editable easily later on, when finished or in the mean while and will connect them later if some one won't jump in ;)
any ways now is the time, I think, to connect them :)
 
thanks
 
Regards
KA.



 

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I encountered Page Stale (once) when using Firefox. Going back to
Safari while others validate whether this is fixed or it's just me.
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Hi shreyas,
Currently the 'Drafts' feature works at the back-end and prevents
your feature from getting lost when the browser crashes, un-expected
shut-down, etc. (specially useful for large edits ).

However, there is no explicit way for us to save a draft. Maybe a
feature enhancement would be to have a button "Save as Draft" that
does that job ... That would be one for the Issue Tracker :)

Regards,
Map Maker Guide.

twist3r

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After today rendering, the problem still persist. There are now a lot
of features with "~" instead of real name and nothig I can do. I
thought and hoped that when the rendering will take place, the problem
will go, but it hasn't. What can I do ?

Vinay Chitlangia

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Dear twist3r,
We will fix the features with "~" in their names offline. We have already released a fix
so that new features will not have ~ in their names. The data fix will be done soon.

Vinay

2009/12/14 twist3r <popescu.c...@gmail.com>

twist3r

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Ok, i hope this fix will take place soon because it's a tottaly mess
right now with all those "~".
Another problem I see, is that sometimes when I try to delete a road
or a bulding (only those I tried for now), it doesen't really delete
them even if there is no moderation needed and the message on top says
my change has been published. And when i check in that road history I
see that my Delete action was in fact only an editing feature with no
change in fact. What's the problem ?

On Dec 14, 5:13 pm, Vinay Chitlangia <chitlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear twist3r,
> We will fix the features with "~" in their names offline. We have already
> released a fix
> so that new features will not have ~ in their names. The data fix will be
> done soon.
>
> Vinay
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Jabran

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Another problem I see, is that sometimes when I try to delete a road
or a bulding (only those I tried for now), it doesen't really delete
them even if there is no moderation needed and the message on top says
my change has been published. And when i check in that road history I
see that my Delete action was in fact only an editing feature with no
change in fact. What's the problem ?


I & Faraz are suffering as well.. Especially for polygons..

Regards,
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Jabran

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In attached images, new road is added and as you can see from first image there is no node/intersection defined. So in second image as you can see, i added three of them. Third image shows that save button doesn't work to respond anything. It is the same response from save button when once a feature is added and then tried to add more details. Do we need better test engineers? What an amazing update..

Regards,
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2.JPG
3.JPG

momers

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Was just thinking that now i have to post another issue and you beat
me to it!
try deleting a POI and it says feature published..whereas in reality
feature still there every time you search.
> > > > > > Ìabranwww.local.com.pkwww.dyzynz.net

Jabran

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Was just thinking that now i have to post another issue and you beat
me to it!
try deleting a POI and it says feature published..whereas in reality
feature still there every time you search.

lols.. I and Faraz were also looking at this amazing stuff last night.. trying to delete a polygon one by one but it was saying published even after two tries from each of us.. Also can't add name with Numbered Highway selected as it returns a new error of asking at least one name.. But i was told last night that it will be fixed soon.. Now waiting..


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I get around that name required issue by entering a numbered and selecting at least one name as proffered name. and rest of name as standards decided by group discussion. 
I know its not proper way but only way to get around now. 
Faraz Ahmad
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Another bug that i see is that there is a lot of features with no
user. I can't contact the owner of that feature because i can't see
who made it.

Vinay Chitlangia

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The delete POI issue has now been fixed. Please let us know if you encounter issues.

2009/12/15 Jabran <jabran...@gmail.com>

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Cheers

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Thanks for fixing that, but how about the features that have "~"
instead of name. I'm talking about the ones who allready have that
because i know that for new ones the bug was fixed.

On Dec 16, 6:37 am, Vinay Chitlangia <chitlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The delete POI issue has now been fixed. Please let us know if you encounter
> issues.
>
> 2009/12/15 Jabran <jabranrafi...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> > Was just thinking that now i have to post another issue and you beat
> >> me to it!
> >> try deleting a POI and it says feature published..whereas in reality
> >> feature still there every time you search.
>
> > lols.. I and Faraz were also looking at this amazing stuff last night..
> > trying to delete a polygon one by one but it was saying published even after
> > two tries from each of us.. Also can't add name with Numbered Highway
> > selected as it returns a new error of asking at least one name.. But i was
> > told last night that it will be fixed soon.. Now waiting..
>
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It appears that since the update the "Shopping Centers" have all had
their attribute set to "Building". I have noticed the change in many
places in the Philippines. The change does not show in the history but
I am quite certain they were "Grounds" before.

Example 1:

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=14.550723,121.051403&fr=0.000208,0.000215&mpp=0.578009&gw=39&ll=14.551238,121.050898&spn=0.003733,0.005085&z=18&iwloc=0_0&fid=3717660959753223327:11823302914547244480

Example 2:

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=14.483374,120.993032&fr=0.000416,0.000429&mpp=1.156372&iwloc=0_0&gw=39&ll=14.48382,120.994749&spn=0.007469,0.010171&z=17&fid=3717667059895454255:4789861100681095189

I will put it in the issue tracker as well.



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> Thanks for fixing that, but how about the features that have "~"
> instead of name. I'm talking about the ones who allready have that
> because i know that for new ones the bug was fixed.
>
> On Dec 16, 6:37 am, Vinay Chitlangia <chitlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The delete POI issue has now been fixed. Please let us know if you encounter
> > issues.
>
> > 2009/12/15 Jabran <jabranrafi...@gmail.com>
>
> > > Was just thinking that now i have to post another issue and you beat
> > >> me to it!
> > >> try deleting a POI and it says feature published..whereas in reality
> > >> feature still there every time you search.
>
> > > lols.. I and Faraz were also looking at this amazing stuff last night..
> > > trying to delete a polygon one by one but it was saying published even after
> > > two tries from each of us.. Also can't add name with Numbered Highway
> > > selected as it returns a new error of asking at least one name.. But i was
> > > told last night that it will be fixed soon.. Now waiting..
>
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> > > Ìabran
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Just sharing.. 

Select a Segment Tool has been working fine for me so far. I tried it twice, once at Lohianwala Bypass, Gujranwala to correct the small wrongly extended roads and now I have just used on N-50 near Zhob, Pakistan for a road sections comprising on 45.5KM and it worked like a charm for me. If I see anything wrong then will write again. Cheers

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Jabran,

It's working fine if you use it on old roads that haven't had any
deleted sections lately. Probably that's your case there.
You also cannot use it for new roads (that you just added).

Regards,
Dan C.

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> Just sharing..
>
> *Select a Segment Tool* has been working fine for me so far. I tried it

K A

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with *Select a Segment* tool, I have faced the both cases, as with Jabran it worked, yes it worked with me as well on some roads now.
and as with Dan C, yes I guess so it worked on already rendered roads but not with the one which are not yet rendered.
 
I was just going to put the same query last day, I also prepared some screen shots where it worked perfect and where it didn't. but just before hitting Submit button on the post, I got my mind on the difference between two that the roads are not yet selectable with the *Select a Segment* tool which are not yet rendered.
 
I think it selects the route just like *Get Directions* feature does.


 
Regards
KA.



 
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KA,

It's already been stated somewhere on the forums that the select
segment tool uses the "get directions" to find the selected path.
That's the source of its problems, actually; while for "Get
Directions" it may be acceptable to operate on two-weeks old data -
this is not nice when you're actively mapping/fixing an area.

I also noticed that the render run doesn't fix things; it looks like
Get Directions uses a different cache. The last rendering did not fix
the roads I had problems with - and Get Directions still uses old road
names that are no longer visible on the map.

Regards,
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> and as with Dan C, yes I guess so it worked on already rendered roads but not with the one which are not yet rendered.
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> I was just going to put the same query last day, I also prepared some screen shots where it worked perfect and where it didn't. but just before hitting Submit button on the post, I got my mind on the difference between two that the roads are not yet selectable with the *Select a Segment* tool which are not yet rendered.
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> I think it selects the route just like *Get Directions* feature does.
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> > It's working fine if you use it on old roads that haven't had any
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> > You also cannot use it for new roads (that you just added).
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> > Regards,
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> > On Dec 16, 8:49 pm, Jabran <jabranrafi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just sharing..
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> > > *Select a Segment Tool* has been working fine for me so far. I tried it
> > > twice, once at Lohianwala Bypass, Gujranwala to correct the small wrongly
> > > extended roads and now I have just used on N-50 near Zhob, Pakistan for a
> > > road sections comprising on 45.5KM and it worked like a charm for me. If I
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That's correct!

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:39:42 AM12/18/09
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Thanks Dan,

Means that I missed that statement.
however if it works as *Get Directions* then ofcourse that's the
problem we can not use this tool in the way as it says by its name to
Select a desired Segment. as It will select the route according to the
good directions rather than the route we want to select.

I also yet not have experienced it with the recently rendered things.
I have worked with it on these two different things so far.
with already rendered roads(ofcourse some older), where it worked.
and with currently added roads, where it didn't. work. ofcourse that
is bad we will not be able to use that tool in very useful manner.

So what's next? are they going to make changes in the working of this
tool or it is really some thing else than we think it of.

Regards
KA.

> > > > Ìabran

Jabran

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I think, for the moment a substitute can be used. Recently added roads can easily be tracked inside the history and by selecting from there you can either delete to recreate with desired correction or you can make possible changes e.g. updating the name etc. 

Regards,
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The data fix to remove ~ from existing features has been done.
 
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So will the features update on their own or will we have to manually
edit and resave for change to apply? I just did the manuall procedure
and it works but it better be auto.

What about the error where names in the first row of name attrib of
many poi's and polygons were changed to Obscure hence making 'other-
script' names become default and hence all names started appearing in
the other languages? so far fixing manually by changing name attrib to
preferred. Was that fixed with this as well?

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Ok, so while other bugs were somehow fixed, there is a new bug wich is
really annoying. There are a lot of new users without a profile
and ... their names doesen't appear on history. Some of them are
making daily huge mistakes and there is not way to contact them. Why
they are allowed to edit ? Some of them don't need moderation because
they do little features who sometimes don't need moderation (parks,
poi, vegetation) but they screw hole cities. I wish there is a way to
contact them or at least to be able to know what users they have and
when is neccesarly to mark their edits as spam (because they do that).

twist3r

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No answer about this issue ?

Gorio

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Hi twist3r,

Your issues are actually old, not new. What you have reported about
and the concerns you have raised have all been raised many months ago
by myself and others. There is a few discussion threads, mostly under
the "Moderating Features" and there are a couple of related issues
posted in the Issue tracker. Please add your votes in the issue
tracker if you like or even add some more suggestions regarding
moderation and editing.

Thanks for raising the issue again and keeping it fresh. Moderation is
important.

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For instance if there's a road with 25 segments but there's a bifurcation at intersection 15 sometimes a name change joined both roads as one route. I'd like to right to click on an intersection and with the usual "edit intersection", "edit turn restrictions" and see a "split route" and "join route" to do the reverse. Maybe an interface very similar to "turn restrictions" would be awesome to split when there are three or more incoming segments to the same intersection.
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