Convert Hindi to Urdu text?
Victoria
Is there any way to go from Hindi to Urdu characters?
Many thanks,
Victoria
Jaya Jha
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jitesh dundas
Thanks for the reply.
One more thing..Your post on your site..
To dethrone a good king, you need to change the game
Posted by Jaya on June 9, 2010
I disagree with you on your perception on this topic..
None of those companies killed another. Instead they created something
in their space ..They created a place for themselves..
IBM,Microsoft ,Yahoo,Google have faced a lot of flak & evolved...That
is why they are successful..And once at such levels, their presence
is undisputed..
There is no 'killing' going on between these companies, but they try
to survive &
volve..
Consider this..Microsoft stole the Personal Computers Idea from
Apple( copycats) ..Still Aple survived due to their specialized seyt
of computers. The best UI & HCI seen att those times..
Google then stole Ajax (something) that was created by Microsoft
...yet microsoft survived..
The point is that each of these companies had a strength that no one
could match..
For e.g.) you have a magazine .To succeed, you need to strengthen in a
particular category where no one can match..
The bottomline is not of 'killing the big shot' as doing so is almost
impossible except if some other big shot does that or it
self-destructs..
IT IS ABOUT - SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST ..
Who will survive the best and who will perish..The tiger who got hurt
is the most deadliest..Not the tamed one..
No one can defeat google but can try to survive.
Microsoft is going down as it is no longer able to succeed in its
copycat & acquire strategy..They have competition now -that too strong
ones..
The surival is business sense dear, not technology based..
Interesting venture.I would like to be your partner In this if you
want..I like writing articles myself..
Lastly, have a happy married life..
Thanks,
jd
On 8/24/10, Jaya Jha <jay...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Victoria <victo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> Is there any way to go from Hindi to Urdu characters?
>> Many thanks,
>> Victoria
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Victoria
It would be great to link or intergrate that script converter website
to the transliterate website.
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> > Is there any way to go from Hindi to Urdu characters?
> > Many thanks,
> > Victoria
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EmKay
On Aug 26, 8:35 am, Victoria <victoria...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome, thanks!
>
Its an interesting toy - but the conversion from Urdu to Hindi is
hardly awesome.
As you probably know, the phonetic conversion from Hindi to Urdu
cannot be very precise without a slightly more complex algorithm using
a lexicon to match. Phonetic rules are not sufficient - Urdu has many
more kinds of z, t, s sounds which all collapse to the same Hindi
letter - even taking into account the dotted-letters which very little
text in Hindi takes into account. The modern standard hindi spellings
of many Urdu words that end in "chhotee he" use the आ dicaritic in
Hindi spellings, and some words such as कि a different diacritic. This
converters even does not handle the conversion of even well know
variants of sound - try converting the word for parrot - तोता - and
you get the wrong-for-Urdu spelling.
It is a nice-try, proof of concept toy. I don't think anyone can
seriously think of using it convert Hindi text to Urdu! (Probably
works better for conversion between other Indic scripts!)
jitesh dundas
google is very smart to know all that..
Such work might need NLP and going by today's standards, this is a
really awesome..!
I can also find 1000 things wrong in google APIs. I personally found
gross errors in its language detection of simple languages..However,
look at what these guys have done and you will surely appreciate (i
know you are at heart) what these guys are doing..give them some
time..they will take care of all that..
Anyone tried Chinese & other East asian scripts for language detection
? how are the results ?
Cheers,
JD
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EmKay
Work is appreciated - though Google usually keeps things in Beta till
the work - transliteration stuff is very Alpha/Beta quality!
Appreciation is deserved - superlatives such as "awesome" are not !
[ And "language detection" is a completely different issue than
transliterating between languages]. It probably is also misleading to
those who have not tried these tools - an honest evaluation sets the
expectations correctly.
For some languages, it is probably "awesome". For others (e.g. Urdu-
>Hindi which is the context here) even the basic issues have not been
done correctly - glossing them over and showering accolades does not
help anyone. Honest critique is the intent. And maybe someone will
file bugs based on that.
If there was an open database of outstanding bugs - which one could
view and file new ones, that would be a better way to give feedback.
jitesh dundas
Awesome is because they have built something and are ready to hear from us.
Awesome is because no one -including you and me - couldn't do
something of this sort..
Finding faults is very easy, but building something and giving it for
free(though they may be making money ) is very difficult..
Google has built so many things and changed history..If we find bugs,
just informing them with an email on their forums or to their
representatives..If they do that for Google Apps Solution Provider
facility, surely they will love to hear about this too..
As time has gone, google products(most of them e.g. transliteration )
has made improvements.Surely they will do that..My point is that they
have made something really interesting ,which none of us thought of
(sort of) and then tried to provide good support for that..That makes
them awesome...As time goes they will fix the bugs..even if we don't
tell them (though they love to hear from us..)
I like the idea of bugs database, which they must be having in their back-end..
In short-the tool is awesome but there is always room for
improvements..I am not gng to take them for granted...
Let us agree to disagree and end this..Maybe focus on something
technical now which is new to us..
Regards,
jd
EmKay
Apologies for inadvertently stepping on your Google Hero-worship and
any other corporate survival-of-fittest issues you are discussing on
this thread here.
My observation was merely for the purpose of setting the right
expectations for anyone actually reading this thread and thinking of
trying to use the Urdu to Hindi script conversion feature (the topic
of this thread!) and provide some feedback. At the moment it falls
short of minimal expectations of usability - [ and far from the usual
expectations people have from the high standards set by Google in many
other product/feature areas].
This will be my last observation - and yes keeping comments here on
technical issues would be a good start. :-)
jitesh dundas
Give Google some time..Nobody is worshipping anyone..If nobody is using their tools, then they will be the ultimate loosers..
Anyways, I end my side by saying that this script convertor is awesome stuff...However, I would like to see improvements in future..
Regards,
JD
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