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cs@gamegiants.net  
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 More options Jun 20 2008, 2:44 pm
From: "c...@gamegiants.net" <c...@gamegiants.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
bump

On Jun 20, 11:37 am, "c...@gamegiants.net" <c...@gamegiants.net>
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 More options Jun 20 2008, 6:30 pm
From: CheckoutDevProPeng <Checkout-Dev-Pro+P...@google.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:30:43 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
To the best of my knowledge the recent discrepancy was caused by stale
fuel surcharge data.  We are still working on matching the rates
exactly with the carrier rates you would find online.

Peng

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 More options Jun 20 2008, 10:55 pm
From: "c...@gamegiants.net" <c...@gamegiants.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:55:57 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
USPS has no fuel surcharge and you still do not return correct values!

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From: "c...@gamegiants.net" <c...@gamegiants.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
I did some checking and it is not just the "fuel surcharge" all base
rates for Fedex and UPS are coming back too low on the range of
20-40%. Carrier Calculated Shipping shoiuld be inactivated as it just
plain returns false results! It is useless!

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 More options Jun 25 2008, 11:55 pm
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
Carrier Calculated Shipping is Still Returning Bogus Results

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 More options Jul 2 2008, 7:37 pm
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:37:11 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
A while back I spent some time reverse engineering the algorithms used
by UPS.com and FedEx.com.  They each use slightly different rounding
rules and orders of operations, and as far as I've found there is no
public documentation of those details.  I would be glad to help the
Checkout team achieve an exact match with what the official website
estimators produce.  (I've also implemented USPS calculations but I
don't think our rate tables match the public ones so I don't know how
"accurate" my USPS algorithm is... might or might not be able to help
there as well.)  (Oh and in case you want to know how bad the
documentation is even inside these companies, UPS's own rate
estimation API sometimes returns slightly different answers than their
public website produces...  differences are usually 1 or 2 cents,
presumably due to slightly different rounding and/or order of
operations.  Fun fun.)  Anyway, if anyone over there is listening and
interested, just drop me a note.

Cheers,

-Ben

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From: gg <gamegia...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
bump

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 More options Jul 11 2008, 6:01 pm
From: "c...@gamegiants.net" <c...@gamegiants.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:01:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
Still Broken!!!

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 More options Jul 15 2008, 1:37 pm
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:37:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
still!

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From: gg <gamegia...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:00:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
We just reviewed the UPS shipping rates calculated by Carrier
Calculated Shipping and they are even worse now than they were
previously. For a 68 lbs UPS shipment from 89510 to 60174 we get these
rates from Google Carrier Calculated Shipping:

Ground                 $28.79
3 day select           $91.78
Express Saver      $259.27

and the actual Daily Pickup Rates are:

Ground                 $45.06
3 day select           $150.26
Express Saver      $310.25

Carrier Calculated Shipping is TOTALLY UNUSABLE!!!!

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From: gg <gamegia...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
It also appears that at least for UPS Carrier Calculated Shipping is
not using the <postal-code> provided in  <ship-from> but is using the
destination zip in the customers account.

You can clearly see this if you submit a ccs cart and note the rate.
Now change the destination address to the same zip as the <ship-
from><postal-code> you will see that the rate is now Higher than the
original quote to another area. But again the numbers returned are
wildly inaccurate as opposed to the UPS actual daily rates.

Carrier Calculated shipping is so Buggy Google should just pull it as
IT DOES NOT WORK!!!

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From: gg <gamegia...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:41:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
Still Broken! I thought you said it was going to be fixed today Peng!
Carrier Calculated Shipping still is returning invalid results. I am
glad Google does not write avionics or medical device software!! It is
unbelievable that Google can not write a simple shipping calculator.
To make it worse all the information is readily available from the
carriers.

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From: Jason <ja...@strikeink.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:30:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Carrier Calculated Shipping is A Joke
I just spent forever trying to search on Google for this problem and
all I kept finding was the same developers docs.  I would fancy a
solution as soon as possible so I can move on with my life.

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