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Scott Chandler  
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(9 users)  More options Apr 14 2006, 11:27 am
From: Scott Chandler
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:27:45 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 14 2006 11:27 am
Subject: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
How often are iCal subscriptions supposed to update? I'm hosting my
iCal calendars on icalx.com and adding them to Google Calendar, but
when I make a change in iCal it doesn't appear on Google Calendar. I
can force it to appear by deleting and adding the calendar again, but
that's not too productive. I've check the files uploaded to icalx.com,
and they're up to date, so Google Calendar must not be noticing any
changes.

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Colin  
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 More options Apr 14 2006, 12:33 pm
From: Colin
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:33:15 -0000
Local: Fri, Apr 14 2006 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
I have the same problem.  Also using icalx.com.  It's as if the
calendars are cached on the server and won't refresh.

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mrallen  
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 More options Apr 15 2006, 12:08 am
From: mrallen
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:08:46 -0700
Local: Sat, Apr 15 2006 12:08 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
Ditto.  In other threads I've read people have waited more than 24
hours and still no refresh.  I hope this is addressed soon.

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Gary King  
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(5 users)  More options Apr 15 2006, 4:29 pm
From: Gary King
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:29:53 -0000
Local: Sat, Apr 15 2006 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
24+ hours and still no refresh, correct.

My only real problem; if I had a 'force refresh' button, then I'd be in
heaven.


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Scott Chandler  
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(5 users)  More options Apr 15 2006, 7:49 pm
From: Scott Chandler
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:49:07 -0700
Local: Sat, Apr 15 2006 7:49 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
I'd also love a refresh button, or better yet, if Google Calendar could
refresh all calendars when you log in.

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bucknam  
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 More options Apr 18 2006, 12:32 pm
From: bucknam
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:32:47 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 18 2006 12:32 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
This may have to do with gCal not 'pinging' the WebDAV-hosted iCal
files for refreshes. I think you have to have gCal build in a refresh
for every time the iCal file is updated or when the user subscribing to
the iCal file via gCal views it. Some sort of ping mechanism a la
Technorati Pings may be a good thing for the gCal tem to implement.

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Nobody Special  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 18 2006, 1:22 pm
From: Nobody Special
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:22:10 -0000
Local: Tues, Apr 18 2006 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
I thought this might be a caching issue, where the server serving the
ical file was adding an expiration / caching info to the header, but a
check of the captured packets from icalx.com did not show this to be
the case. When you subscribe google to a calendar, it does not appear
to need or get write access (webdav for example.)

Perhaps google has a per-host caching time that is imposed per host, or
maybe based on number of calendars served per host. (If google updates
one calendar every 4 hours per site, and a site has 100 calendars ... )
There are many possible reasons for each of your calendars not being
updated. Try serving your calendar from a different host, and see if it
refreshes faster.

I have seen updates work on my web-based ical files, and noticed in a
web server log file, that they are downloaded by google about once
every 4 to 8 hours for my calendars, but I don't use icalx.com.

HTH


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bucknam  
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 More options Apr 20 2006, 12:01 am
From: bucknam
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:01:42 -0000
Local: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 12:01 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
Interesting note, and helpful to know that some folks' iCals are
getting pinged, but I'm hosting on my domain's own webDAV server, and
it's only one of 2 calendar files there. I think this might throw a
wrench into your hypothesis. Maybe Google isn't getting out to
everyone's hosted calendar files in the hinterlands of the internet as
often as others?

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Scott Chandler  
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 More options Apr 20 2006, 6:33 am
From: Scott Chandler
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:33:37 -0700
Local: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 6:33 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
I think it's just not refreshing the mat all. It it adds the calendar
when you subscribe, and that's it. I've been using the calendar for a
week now my iCal subscriptions have never updated themselves.

Is it possible to get some kind of confirmation that Google recognizes
the problem and is planning to fix it? Or was this the way Google
Calendar was designed?


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Scott Brenner  
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 More options Apr 20 2006, 9:33 am
From: Scott Brenner
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:33:38 -0000
Local: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 9:33 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
My iCal subscriptions don't refresh either.

Has anybody tried an XML calendar?  Do they update regularly?

It sure would be nice if someone from Google could confirm the
functionality of the "Public Calendar Address" function.  Is it an
import or should it refresh on a regular basis?

Scott


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Google Calendar Guide Google employee  
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(15 users)  More options Apr 20 2006, 8:07 pm
From: Google Calendar Guide
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:07:06 -0700
Local: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 8:07 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
Thanks everyone for taking the time to report the trouble you're
experiencing with ical subscriptions not updating. We're aware of
this problem and hope to resolve it soon.

We're sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you.


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lankybutmacho  
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 More options Apr 21 2006, 3:53 pm
From: lankybutmacho
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:53:09 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 21 2006 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
Thanks, it's great to hear this problem is being addressed. Compliments
to the gCal team.

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Nobody Special  
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 More options Apr 21 2006, 10:43 pm
From: Nobody Special
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:43:20 -0000
Local: Fri, Apr 21 2006 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating

> but I'm hosting on my domain's own webDAV server, and
> it's only one of 2 calendar files there. I think this might throw a
> wrench into your hypothesis.

Yep. I've started looking through the logs, and I find one calendar is
getting hit about once every 3 hours by a google bot, but the other two
are once each day. Now, I am beginning to wornder if the googlebot hits
are from the calendar or as part of a normal site index.

I've altered an event in my conventions export, since it takes the
least time to get refreshed.


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Nobody Special  
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 More options Apr 22 2006, 6:25 pm
From: Nobody Special
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:25:00 -0000
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
With the next refresh from a google bot, I see our ical feed of
conventions was updated. However, our other two feeds (history of
events "what happened today in history" and our other events ical feed)
are not being loaded as frequently.

I guess the google bot like conventions more than history and history
more than events.

It's probably a keyword thing.

Something else to point out:
All three of these ical feeds are in a public forum space that is
semi-frequently indexed by google and other search engines. Also,
robots.txt does not disallow indexing to the ical space.


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technodad  
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 More options May 12 2006, 10:44 am
From: technodad
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 07:44:37 -0700
Local: Fri, May 12 2006 10:44 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
Add me to the list of people whose subscribed calendars aren't being
updated. One additional data point: I also subscribe to this calendar
via iCal, and it is updating successfully. If I click the link for this
calendar in Google Calendar's "Calendar Settings" page, the plain text
of the .ics file shows the correct data. This suggests it isn't a
problem accessing the data.

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Probity  
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 More options Jun 2 2006, 2:38 pm
From: Probity
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 11:38:14 -0700
Local: Fri, Jun 2 2006 2:38 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
I am having the same problem with a room schedule calendar I posted on
our website: it's loaded in GCal but reporting the event schedule from
two days ago.

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Cal Man  
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(1 user)  More options Jun 5 2006, 10:31 pm
From: Cal Man
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:31:09 -0700
Local: Mon, Jun 5 2006 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
We think (hope? pray?) this problem has been fixed for the most part
with some recent changes that were made.  In order to avoid directing
too much crawl traffic at any one site, there are some limits that we
place on crawl frequency.  We've revised some of these limits for
popular sharing sites to try to address the issues that people are
having.

But, if other folks are having problems with external calendars not
getting updated like Probity, please let us know (with the URL of the
external calendar that isn't being updated) so we can continue
investigating.

Thanks much.


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aalex  
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 More options Jun 19 2006, 6:17 pm
From: aalex
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:17:12 -0700
Local: Mon, Jun 19 2006 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
I have the same problem!

My ICAL link doesn't work :

Calendar Address:
http:[email address]/public/basic.ics

Private Address:
http:[email address]/private-ba3780630a6eaca67a59cf5e65d6e7a8/basic.ics

Thank's in advance!

ALex


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yaf201  
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(1 user)  More options Jun 30 2006, 6:23 am
From: yaf201
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:23:42 -0000
Local: Fri, Jun 30 2006 6:23 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
It's still not working for me. Yesterday, I subscribed to an Ical
calendar on a webdav server. The initial subscription was fine, but an
amendedment made after i subscribed yesterday still doesn't show in
GCal. A mate subscribed to the same Ical this morning and is still
seeing the out of date entry.

I have sent a bug report. Is there an ETA for this fix?


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Google Calendar Guide Google employee  
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 More options Jun 30 2006, 11:25 am
From: Google Calendar Guide
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:25:57 -0700
Local: Fri, Jun 30 2006 11:25 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
Thanks for sending us the URLs you were having trouble with, yaf201,
and we're looking into it. If anyone else is noticing a delay in a
public iCal feed updating in Google Calendar, please post the URLs here
and the Calendar team will take a look.

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yaf201  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 11:31 am
From: yaf201
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:31:46 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 11:31 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
Still not working for
http://www.swanseacamra.org.uk/calendars/CAMRA%20Events.ics. Any ETA on
this being fixed?


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(1 user)  More options Jul 5 2006, 8:05 pm
From: Google Calendar Guide
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:05:24 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
We're still investigating the feed that you sent to us, yaf201. While I
don't have a timeframe of when we'll have this resolved, we're looking
into and I'll let you know if there are any updates. If anyone else has
a pubic feed that's not updating, please post it here and we'll take a
look at it. If it's private and you'd prefer to not share it with the
world, you can also send to us at
http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/request.py

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surfmonkey  
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 More options Jul 17 2006, 12:34 am
From: surfmonkey
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:34:50 -0000
Local: Mon, Jul 17 2006 12:34 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating

Just thought I'd chime in and say my feed doesn't work either. It's
currently set to private, but it doesn't work regardless of whether
it's private or public.

http://www.icalx.com/private/surfmonkey89/Home.ics

Feel free to mail me at [email address] with questions; I'm
happy to help.


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Mike Beltzner  
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(1 user)  More options Jul 20 2006, 1:55 am
From: Mike Beltzner
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 05:55:22 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 20 2006 1:55 am
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating

Google Calendar Guide wrote:
> Thanks for sending us the URLs you were having trouble with, yaf201,
> and we're looking into it. If anyone else is noticing a delay in a
> public iCal feed updating in Google Calendar, please post the URLs here
> and the Calendar team will take a look.

Well, I think we're all noticing a delay, but we're not sure if that's
"normal" or not. What's the current refresh rate that Google Calendar
is using?

Also, any ICS files that are password protected (even with simple HTTP
style authentication) can't be reached with gCal at the moment. Any
word on whether or not you'll start supporting
http://user:[email address]/path/to/file.ics style URIs in the near
future?

cheers & thanks,
mike


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Google Calendar Guide Google employee  
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(5 users)  More options Jul 20 2006, 1:57 pm
From: Google Calendar Guide
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:57:52 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 20 2006 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: iCal Subscriptions Not Updating
Mike, thanks for asking for clarification and I'm sorry I wasn't
clearer at first. Google Calendar currently updates feeds every three
hours. It sounds like you're noticing a delay and that's normal. If the
delay is significant (as in more than three hours), please let me know.

To answer your second question, Google Calendar currently doesn't
support access to ICS files that are password protected. I can't
provide you with when this feature will be available, but I'll make a
note of it so that we can look into when time permits.

Finally, for those of you who've already submitted your feeds, we're
still investigating, and I really apologize for the delay.


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