Message from discussion
The Amazing Story Of Appengine And The Two Orders Of Magnitude
Received: by 10.100.245.25 with SMTP id s25mr2094201anh.10.1315108694163;
Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:58:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-BeenThere: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.100.249.16 with SMTP id w16ls5908609anh.3.gmail; Sat, 03 Sep
2011 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.101.198.27 with SMTP id a27mr2400207anq.12.1315108670386;
Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.101.198.27 with SMTP id a27mr2400206anq.12.1315108670373;
Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <emlynore...@gmail.com>
Received: from mail-gx0-f179.google.com (mail-gx0-f179.google.com [209.85.161.179])
by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g7si3189407ane.1.2011.09.03.20.57.50
(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of emlynore...@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.179;
Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of emlynore...@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=emlynore...@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header...@gmail.com
Received: by gxk1 with SMTP id 1so2537365gxk.10
for <google-appengine@googlegroups.com>; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
:content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
bh=ct9xWTkTCnhfIcp8orlZkyMQ3Nih7J1jEnFpWq5lKfA=;
b=pzpY4ePXMbHJ0zXo78UdV9K/Be29gZKHv/xXPecCfLNHtqYKJAIaVqvIivx2ExHlgo
Orfh6jGpsVXe9P7x/b2HV/MPO3VmM/sN3XebioFgS85zFaHd4Kp2q9nYsfX3OdQv1Y+2
4cmakciP1IzHGYHWJRJzmCQQd/yYJHnuPs3Go=
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.236.192.135 with SMTP id i7mr12017953yhn.111.1315108670230;
Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.236.47.163 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <09FFCA49-0271-48BE-8632-C4506955358A@charter.net>
References: <CAMp1VPDRHQdd5c4XLpwCHiTtWYbetEJkjHZLOGY=E00-53q...@mail.gmail.com>
<B6C93412-C0DC-4635-8ACA-645027D71...@charter.net>
<a07d1dd1-6528-40d6-a543-3198d2c9a...@eb1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>
<09FFCA49-0271-48BE-8632-C45069553...@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 13:27:50 +0930
Message-ID: <CAMp1VPBncx642zfS0h9cYYp4sZNVR9CgJq29k3TJKAfEuHQ...@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] The Amazing Story Of Appengine And The Two
Orders Of Magnitude
From: Emlyn <emlynore...@gmail.com>
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1
On 4 September 2011 03:51, Joshua Smith <JoshuaESm...@charter.net> wrote:
> Yes, that certainly seems possible. =A0But it's a lot more trouble than j=
ust having a way to say to the scheduler, "run these when you have an idle =
instance with nothing better to do," or "DO NOT spin up an instance just to=
handle this task"
>
> On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:14 PM, peterk wrote:
>
>> You can pull from task queues instead of having them push, right? That
>> could help a lot where task queues are the source of instance spin up.
>> I'd even be happy to dedicated a back-end to task queue pull-work if
>> it was necessary - at least that is totally under your control.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 3, 5:05 pm, Joshua Smith <JoshuaESm...@charter.net> wrote:
>>> I also identified task queues as the source of my excessive instances. =
=A0I suspect this is a quite common issue, and together with datastore acce=
ss bugs (sorry, but you never should have written it like that) like the on=
e you found, are conspiring to make a lot of these crazy new billing number=
s.
>>>
>>> I think a lot of people just need to take a deep breath and look at the=
ir apps the way you did. =A0It's certainly a lot less work than migrating t=
o EC2.
>>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Emlyn wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>> I don't think I've posted here before, but I've been an appengine user
>>>> for a while now (closing on 2 years? Is that even possible?). And like
>>>> many, I had a rude shock with the new pricing (going from $0.50/day to
>>>> $50/day).
>>>
>>>> However, I dug into what I'm actually being charged for, and I think
>>>> it's all actually in my control to sort out, and that in itself is
>>>> sort of fascinating. I wrote a long blog post on this, which people
>>>> might find interesting.
>>>
>>>> The Amazing Story Of Appengine And The Two Orders Of Magnitude
>>>> http://point7.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/the-amazing-story-of-appengine.=
..
>>>
>>>> I'd be really grateful for feedback, especially if I've gotten
>>>> anything wildly wrong. I haven't actually made any of the changes that
>>>> I've foreshadowed in the post, that's for the next day or two, and
>>>> I'll write a followup article on how it goes.
>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for having a look!
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Emlyn
>>>
>>>> http://my.syyn.cc- Synchonise Google+, Facebook, WordPress and Google
>>>> Buzz posts,
>>>> comments and all.
>>>> http://point7.wordpress.com- My blog
>>>> Find me on Facebook and Buzz
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro=
ups "Google App Engine" group.
>>>> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com=
.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubsc=
ribe@googlegroups.com.
>>>> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/go=
ogle-appengine?hl=3Den.
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group=
s "Google App Engine" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscri=
be@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/goo=
gle-appengine?hl=3Den.
>>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups=
"Google App Engine" group.
> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscrib=
e@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/goog=
le-appengine?hl=3Den.
>
>
--=20
Emlyn
http://my.syyn.cc - Synchonise Google+, Facebook, WordPress and Google
Buzz posts,
comments and all.
http://point7.wordpress.com - My blog
Find me on Facebook and Buzz