mail.Send() complains I need more quota even though I don't

[crag]

My application had been sending mail without a problem as of last
week. I uploaded a new version of the app a week ago (did not change
the code that emails) and now get

com.google.apphosting.api.ApiProxy$OverQuotaException: The API call
mail.Send() required more quota than is unavailable.

even though my quota shows zero emails sent so far. Any ideas? My
app id is insiderclues.

Thanks.

[Cynthia Kurtz]

Same issue here. Being over quota is impossible since I've sent like
three messages. Any help?

On Nov 18, 1:38 pm, crag <cra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My application had been sendingmailwithout a problem as of last

> week.  I uploaded a new version of the app a week ago (did not change
> the code that emails) and now get
>

> com.google.apphosting.api.ApiProxy$OverQuotaException: The API callmail.Send() required more quota than is unavailable.

[Ikai L (Google)]

Cynthia,

What's your application ID?

Crag, is there any chance you could be over a CPU quota? I checked your application and you are pretty close to an hourly quota. I'll investigate to see if exceeding a CPU quota on sending a mail is triggering that error.

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[crag]

Thanks for taking a look, Ikai.

I doubt it is an hourly CPU thing. After 20 hours, I have used 33% of
CPU quota and the load will likely have been well distributed over
that time. Also, searching the logs for [Qq][Uu][Oo][Tt][Aa] do not
reveal anything except for mail.send calls.

On Nov 18, 2:31 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote:
> Cynthia,
>
> What's your application ID?
>
> Crag, is there any chance you could be over a CPU quota? I checked your
> application and you are pretty close to an hourly quota. I'll investigate to
> see if exceeding a CPU quota on sending a mail is triggering that error.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Cynthia Kurtz <cfku...@cfkurtz.com> wrote:
> > Same issue here. Being over quota is impossible since I've sent like
> > three messages. Any help?
>
> > On Nov 18, 1:38 pm, crag <cra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My application had been sendingmailwithout a problem as of last
> > > week.  I uploaded a new version of the app a week ago (did not change
> > > the code that emails) and now get
>
> > > com.google.apphosting.api.ApiProxy$OverQuotaException: The API
> > callmail.Send() required more quota than is unavailable.
>
> > > even though my quota shows zero emails sent so far.  Any ideas?  My
> > > app id is insiderclues.
>
> > > Thanks.
>
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[Cynthia Kurtz]

My app id is rakontu. The issue came up when one of my users tried to
send an email with a list of To: addresses with 10 emails in it. I
tried to replicate the error and couldn't, but I only tried sending to
two people at once. Could there be some hidden email to-list cutoff?

[Ikai L (Google)]

There are also burst quotas:

http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html#Per-minute_Quotas

The limits are here:

http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html#Mail

The quota you're exceeding with 10 emails is the 8 recipients/minute limit. Note that if you enable billing, this quota will go up to 5,100 recipients a minute. We'll only bill you if you exceed the 2,000 free, so it might be a good idea to turn this on if you need to do one-to-many emailing.

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[Cynthia Kurtz]

Mystery solved. Thanks for the info.

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[Cynthia Kurtz]

BUT - a bit of feedback - 8 is A WHOLE LOT smaller than 2000. Moving
the free limit up to say 20 would probably make a big difference to
most people.

[Haisheng HU]

very agree with this idea!

can you guys increase recipients quota per minute to 20,
increase message body size quota per minute to 1MB, and
keep daily quota unchanged?

or i must introduce "task queues" into my app soon.

~hanson