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Fabio Gonzalez

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Sep 8, 2012, 10:38:56 AM9/8/12
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In a discussion on another list (fsf-commu...@gnu.org), I asked
about the inclusion of a software in GNU. One of the things that was
said RMS:

"Si es capaz también de funcionar dentro del Hurd, de manera que
sirva con cualquier núcleo, en ese caso puede ser un paquete GNU."

Translation:
"If it is able to function within Hurd, so that serves to any kernel
in this case may be a packet GNU"

So why do I say that a program for GNU/Linux. In reality there is a
program for the GNU system, which also works with Linux. As GNU/Linux,
a variant of the GNU system. Because it could be GNU/Hurd, which opine
about it? If a program does not depend essentially Linux. We should
mention that it is a program for GNU instead of GNU/Linux?

I am aware that the GNU system depends on a kernel, but this can be Hurd.

Luca Saiu

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Sep 8, 2012, 1:35:28 PM9/8/12
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On 2012-09-08 at 16:38, Fabio Gonzalez wrote:

> So why do I say that a program for GNU/Linux. In reality there is a
> program for the GNU system, which also works with Linux. As GNU/Linux,
> a variant of the GNU system. Because it could be GNU/Hurd, which opine
> about it? If a program does not depend essentially Linux. We should
> mention that it is a program for GNU instead of GNU/Linux?

Indeed, saying just "GNU" does not place undue emphasis on Linux;
personally I try to do that when appropriate. If you can spend some
more words you can also say explicitly "GNU with any kernel" or
"GNU/Linux and GNU/Hurd".

Regards,

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Luca Saiu
Home page: http://www-lipn.univ-paris13.fr/~saiu
My blog: http://ageinghacker.net/blog
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Ramana Kumar

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Sep 8, 2012, 2:34:10 PM9/8/12
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Indeed one of the aspects of this campaign http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:New_GNU was to spread the idea of GNU as an operating system again.


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Luca Saiu

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Sep 8, 2012, 3:00:48 PM9/8/12
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On 2012-09-08 at 20:34, Ramana Kumar wrote:

> Indeed one of the aspects of this campaign
> http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:New_GNU was to spread the idea of
> GNU as an operating system again.

Good. Let's do it. Let's just say "GNU" when the specific kernel is
not relevant.

Regards,

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Luca Saiu
Home page: http://www-lipn.univ-paris13.fr/~saiu
My blog: http://ageinghacker.net/blog
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Ivan Shmakov

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Sep 26, 2012, 10:14:47 AM9/26/12
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>>>>> Luca Saiu <posi...@gnu.org> writes:
>>>>> On 2012-09-08 at 20:34, Ramana Kumar wrote:

>> Indeed one of the aspects of this campaign
>> http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:New_GNU was to spread the idea of
>> GNU as an operating system again.

> Good. Let's do it. Let's just say "GNU" when the specific kernel is
> not relevant.

Doing it for a decade. Now, they say "Linux" not when they mean
"GNU" (or "GNU/Linux"), but when they mean to get my attention.

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wayne, steve

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Sep 26, 2012, 11:31:05 AM9/26/12
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What kernel are you all using at the moment?

wayne

Ramana Kumar

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Sep 26, 2012, 11:59:56 AM9/26/12
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% uname -sro
Linux 3.5.4-1-LIBRE GNU/Linux


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM, wayne, steve <steven....@gmail.com> wrote:
What kernel are you all using at the moment?

wayne


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Ivan Shmakov <onei...@gmail.com> wrote:
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