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M$ Has Stooped To A New Low

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Red Blade

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Jan 25, 2013, 8:48:23 PM1/25/13
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Dressing up the fact that they're behind the times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkM6RJf15cg

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Chris Ahlstrom

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Jan 25, 2013, 9:08:59 PM1/25/13
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After swilling some grog, Red Blade belched this bit o' wisdom:

> Dressing up the fact that they're behind the times:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkM6RJf15cg

Boring. I lasted about ten seconds.

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Kleuskes & Moos

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Jan 26, 2013, 8:27:49 AM1/26/13
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 21:08:59 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> After swilling some grog, Red Blade belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Dressing up the fact that they're behind the times:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkM6RJf15cg
>
> Boring. I lasted about ten seconds.

Right.

Kleuskes & Moos

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Jan 26, 2013, 8:29:18 AM1/26/13
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 01:48:23 +0000, Red Blade wrote:

> Dressing up the fact that they're behind the times:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkM6RJf15cg

I loathed them in the 90, too. Let's rekindle that and aim for a all new drive-by download experience. It was crap then, it's crap now.

Patrick Anderson

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Jan 26, 2013, 10:41:33 AM1/26/13
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> Dressing up the fact that they're behind the times:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkM6RJf15cg

That was clumsy and painful.

This might clear your head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

Patrick Anderson

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Jan 26, 2013, 6:23:33 PM1/26/13
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> I don't think we should be making fun of Microsoft's products and/or
> Microsoft's employees that way. Not only is it just mean but it actually
> distracts from the core issue at hand: that Microsoft sells proprietary
> software and that proprietary software is morally unacceptable and that
> really is the problem.

One the one hand I agree and feel a tinge of regret.

Any time spent talking about *anything* beyond defeating proprietary
production is a distraction.


> making fun of Richard Stallman (who is a pretty easy target and most of us
> have seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ).

On the other hand, both RMS and Ballmer and that Win8 ad could be
improved by listening honestly to how society perceives them.


> If we think making fun of Richard Stallman to discount Free Software is
> unfair, then us making fun of Ballmer to discount Microsoft is unfair too.

Both of these characters need to wake up to the damage they cause when
they act in such bizarre ways.

alir...@alirazeen.com

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Jan 26, 2013, 5:22:46 PM1/26/13
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Hey people,

I don't think we should be making fun of Microsoft's products and/or
Microsoft's employees that way. Not only is it just mean but it actually
distracts from the core issue at hand: that Microsoft sells proprietary
software and that proprietary software is morally unacceptable and that
really is the problem. After all, if the people at Microsoft suddenly
decided to embrace Free Software tomorrow and make all their software Free
Software, then our problems with Microsoft would cease.

We making fun of Microsoft and Ballmer is quite similar to proprietary
software advocates who discount Free Software and the GNU project by
making fun of Richard Stallman (who is a pretty easy target and most of us
have seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ).

If we think making fun of Richard Stallman to discount Free Software is
unfair, then us making fun of Ballmer to discount Microsoft is unfair too.
Let's focus on the core issues and not let these other things distract us.

Just my two cents.

Best,
Ali

>> Dressing up the fact that they're behind the times:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkM6RJf15cg
>
> That was clumsy and painful.
>
> This might clear your head:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
>
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alir...@alirazeen.com

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Jan 26, 2013, 6:47:41 PM1/26/13
to Patrick Anderson, gnu-misc...@gnu.org, Kleuskes & Moos
>> making fun of Richard Stallman (who is a pretty easy target and most of
>> us
>> have seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ).
>
> On the other hand, both RMS and Ballmer and that Win8 ad could be
> improved by listening honestly to how society perceives them.
>
>
>> If we think making fun of Richard Stallman to discount Free Software is
>> unfair, then us making fun of Ballmer to discount Microsoft is unfair
>> too.
>
> Both of these characters need to wake up to the damage they cause when
> they act in such bizarre ways.


I empathize with that point of view but maybe we (and by we, I mean
everyone in society, including you and me) should just cut them some
slack. I mean we're all just people and we all have our idiosyncrasies
(even if sometimes some of us seem to be more idiosyncratic than others!).
:)

Perhaps if all of us, those for Free Software and those against, separated
the message from the person, we might all be able to have healthy
conversations instead of being caught up with a personality war. This is a
difficult task for sure but it's necessary.


Brandon Invergo

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Jan 26, 2013, 7:21:21 PM1/26/13
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>> Dressing up the fact that they're behind the times:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkM6RJf15cg

Wow...it's official, our society officially deems us old when
advertisers see fit to appeal to our sense of nostalgia.

But anyway, that ad had nothing to do with IE until the very end, so
it's not even worth responding to as anything more than advertising
drivel.

-brandon

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