Sending messages "From" another address ... fooling listserv
p...@world.std.com
I'd like to be able to read and send e-mail from my work address.
Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to get outgoing mail from my
work address to "look like" it came from my personal ISP address. I'm
using Rob Hodges EXCELLENT Personality Crisis package, which automates
the setting of different header fields, etc. However, I can't figure
out what fields I need to set.
Eudora is able to do this through it's "personalities" feature, but I'm
not sure exactly what fields it's mucking with. I've noticed two
differences between Eudora outgoing messages and ones from VM with
Personality Crisis:
1) In Eudora messages, the first "Received from ..." gives my PC as the
source, and the POP server as the receiver. When I send from VM, I get
the same thing, except that it also includes "for
<pda...@blah.blah.blah>", my work e-mail address. Possibly listserv is
checking this. Any way to suppress this?
2) In Eudora, the "Return-Path:" field is set to the e-mail address of
my choice. I can do this with VM and Personality Crisis too, but
somehow, ANOTHER "Return-Path:" line gets added to the header with my
real (work) address. Anyone know where this is coming from, or how to
suppress it?
It may be that Eudora is somehow acting as its own transport between my
machine and the POP server, and so has more control of the message
enveloping than VM does. I don't really know anything about this. Any
ideas or suggestions?
Thanks,
-pd
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Jim Davidson
> I'm subscribed to some listserv e-mail lists under my ISP address, but
> I'd like to be able to read and send e-mail from my work address.
> Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to get outgoing mail from my
> work address to "look like" it came from my personal ISP address. I'm
> using Rob Hodges EXCELLENT Personality Crisis package, which automates
> the setting of different header fields, etc. However, I can't figure
> out what fields I need to set.
You need to provide more information about your environment. What are you
using the send mail? There are various packages, such as sendmail, smtpmail,
feedmail, .... You mentioned VM later on; I haven't used that.
In any case, the parameter that you want to look at is user-mail-address.
I think this will do what you want.
> 2) In Eudora, the "Return-Path:" field is set to the e-mail address of
> my choice. I can do this with VM and Personality Crisis too, but
> somehow, ANOTHER "Return-Path:" line gets added to the header with my
> real (work) address. Anyone know where this is coming from, or how to
> suppress it?
I doubt that you can affect the Return-Path, but I'm no expert.
Typically what you want to change is the "From:" line; I think that's
taken care of with user-mail-address.
--
Jim Davidson
JimEDavidson at earthlink.net
Rob Hodges
> 1) In Eudora messages, the first "Received from ..." gives my PC as the
> source, and the POP server as the receiver. When I send from VM, I get
> the same thing, except that it also includes "for
> <pda...@blah.blah.blah>", my work e-mail address. Possibly listserv is
> checking this. Any way to suppress this?
"Received from" is added by each MTA that the message passes through.
Eudora is an MUA with some MTA functionality built in, but it doesn't
consider itself an MTA so it doesn't add a "Received from". Now, VM
is an MUA and doesn't do any transport itself; that's taken care of by
other Emacs functions from sendmail.el, smtpmail.el, or for Gnus,
message.el. Probably there are others in there too.
> 2) In Eudora, the "Return-Path:" field is set to the e-mail address of
> my choice. I can do this with VM and Personality Crisis too, but
> somehow, ANOTHER "Return-Path:" line gets added to the header with my
> real (work) address. Anyone know where this is coming from, or how to
> suppress it?
"Return-Path" is also a product of the MTA, not the MUA. But when the
MUA calls the MTA, it can use an inject argument to change the
envelope sender and hence this field. IIRC, the sendmail.el that came
with Emacs respected `mail-user-address' and used it as the inject
argument; when I switched to XEmacs it cames with a sendmail.el that
had your own machine name hardcoded into it; I ended up kludging
around this. (I'm on a dial-up connection and my SMTP server
won't accept messages with a non-DNS envelope sender.)
In either case, there is nothing much you can do about either of these
fields from the MUA side. It's likely (though not definite) that you
could fix them up with some well-placed redefinitions of certain Emacs
functions. If you tell me a little more about your setup I might be
able to help. Since you said such nice things about p-crisis :)
What are your values of user-mail-address, mail-host-address,
send-mail-function, and sendmail-program?
-Rob