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Nocebic Meme

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:49:34 AM12/4/09
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Does anyone out there know if there is a solution to getting Emacs 23
running in fullscreen mode on a mac? After much searching, I've come
up dry and am getting a bit desperate.

Nocebic Meme

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Dec 4, 2009, 5:47:20 AM12/4/09
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OK, I've gotten quite frustrated with the emacs 23 options for OS X
and I've just installed it via fink for the terminal (iterm).

Is there any way in OS X, if I click on a file type associated with
emacs, to have it open up in the terminal?

Peter Dyballa

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Dec 4, 2009, 8:23:48 AM12/4/09
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Am 04.12.2009 um 11:47 schrieb Nocebic Meme:

> Is there any way in OS X, if I click on a file type associated with
> emacs, to have it open up in the terminal?


There surely is a way to set up Launch Service this way – but this
"terminal" is just the host and its guest GNU Emacs would not
necessarily receive this file in a new buffer...

(MacPorts offers the "Aqua" variant of GNU Emacs 23, even one from CVS
code.)

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Greetings

Pete

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Steve Revilak

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Dec 4, 2009, 8:14:49 PM12/4/09
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nocebicmeme> OK, I've gotten quite frustrated with the emacs 23
nocebicmeme> options for OS X and I've just installed it via fink for
nocebicmeme> the terminal (iterm).

nocebicmeme> Is there any way in OS X, if I click on a file type
nocebicmeme> associated with emacs, to have it open up in the
nocebicmeme> terminal?

A lot of what I'm about to say is tangental to the original post, but
hopefully some if it will be useful.

I've run Emacs on Mac OS X for years. I've always built it from
source -- sometimes from release versions, and sometimes from tracking
the CVS trunk. By the time of emacs-22.3.1 was released, emacs was
incredibly easy to easy to build on Mac OS X: "cd mac &&
./make-package --self-contained". By the time the command finished,
you had a Carbon Emacs.app, packaged inside a Mac OS X installer
bundle.

When I downloaded 23.1.1, I was surprised to discover that the little
"mac" directory had disappeared. Emacs 23 seems to be heading down
the path of merging Mac OS X/OpenStep/GNUStep code. To excerpt a
section of etc/NEWS (from the emacs source distribution):


** New NeXTSTEP-based port
This provides support for GNUstep (via the GNUstep libraries) and Mac
OS X (via the Cocoa libraries).

Specify --with-ns to configure for this. By default, a self-contained
app will be built (containing all lisp). To install/share lisp with
other emacsen (e.g. X11 build) use --disable-ns-self-contained. See
nextstep/README and nextstep/INSTALL in the Emacs source directory.

Currently, the Nextstep port is not as stable as the other existing
ports; we hope to improve it in future releases.

** Mac OS X is no longer supported via Carbon.
Use the NeXTSTEP port, described above.


There are some very nice things in Emacs 23, but as the NEWS file
warns, there are also quirks under Mac OS X. Eventually, I went back
to using 22.3.1 [1]. For me, 22.3.1 on Mac OS X has always been
incredibly stable. (That said, I'll probably be one of the first in
line to try 22.3.2 :)

At the moment, you may have to choose against a pair of competing
interests: Emacs 23, or a very stable emacs on Mac OS X.

More to the original question: a few months ago, there was a thread on
mutt-...@mutt.org about how to have mutt handle mailto: urls [2].
Perhaps there are ideas there that you can use.

Steve


[1] The deciding issue was
http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=4774

[2] http://marc.info/?t=124490782700002&r=1&w=2
Subest: Mutt on Mac: MuttToMail

Stefan Monnier

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Dec 5, 2009, 2:01:49 PM12/5/09
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> When I downloaded 23.1.1, I was surprised to discover that the little
> "mac" directory had disappeared. Emacs 23 seems to be heading down
> the path of merging Mac OS X/OpenStep/GNUStep code. To excerpt a
> section of etc/NEWS (from the emacs source distribution):

The original reason for the change was that nobody wanted to maintain
the "Carbon" port (i.e. the OSX code used in Emacs-22). Now that we
switched, we have no intention to go back, so please help us improve the
NS code in Emacs-23 by reporting (via M-x report-emacs-bug) the problems
you encounter.


Stefan

Steve Revilak

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Dec 6, 2009, 11:43:20 AM12/6/09
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srevilak> When I downloaded 23.1.1, I was surprised to discover that
srevilak> the little "mac" directory had disappeared. Emacs 23 seems
srevilak> to be heading down the path of merging Mac OS
srevilak> X/OpenStep/GNUStep code. To excerpt a section of etc/NEWS
srevilak> (from the emacs source distribution):

monnier> The original reason for the change was that nobody wanted to
monnier> maintain the "Carbon" port (i.e. the OSX code used in
monnier> Emacs-22). Now that we switched, we have no intention to go
monnier> back, so please help us improve the NS code in Emacs-23 by
monnier> reporting (via M-x report-emacs-bug) the problems you
monnier> encounter.

Stefan,

Thanks for the nudge. I have reported more bugs :)

Steve

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