Scoring

[Tassilo Horn]

Hi all,

I use adaptive scoring for years, but now I wanted to upscore one thread
manually, too. So I've hit `I T RET' in the summary with point on that
thread, but `V S' on it after reentering the summary shows that it was
only scored up 5 "dollars", not 1000 as suggested by the docstring of
`gnus-score-interactive-default-score'.

Incidentally, my adaptive scoring rules add the score 5 to read
messages. So can it be that adaptive scoring overrides my manual
score changes?

Bye,
Tassilo

[Oleksandr Gavenko]

Currently I have trapped to same issue. Look for response to me:

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82354

The usual reason for score not working as expected is that there is a
different rule that lowers or rises the score. Could eg. be a rule on
the subject that classifies it as something you don't want to see.

I use adaptive scoring:

;; .emacs
(setq gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist
'(
(gnus-unread-mark)
(gnus-ticked-mark (subject 100))
(gnus-dormant-mark (subject 100))

;; ~/.gnus/score/all.SCORE
("from"
("gavenkoa" 200 nil s))

and instead of getting 200 point for my articles I have 100 point as I
previously (so I reload Gnus and Emacs) mark some articles in thread with same
subject...

It is bad to have adaptive scoring that overwrite user setting with probably
have high height in most cases.

I interesting in this topic but have no time to research what happen.

--
Best regards!

[Tassilo Horn]

Oleksandr Gavenko <gave...@gmail.com> writes:

Hi Oleksandr,

>> Incidentally, my adaptive scoring rules add the score 5 to read
>> messages. So can it be that adaptive scoring overrides my manual
>> score changes?
>
> Currently I have trapped to same issue. Look for response to me:
>
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82354
>
> The usual reason for score not working as expected is that there is a
> different rule that lowers or rises the score. Could eg. be a rule on
> the subject that classifies it as something you don't want to see.
>
> I use adaptive scoring:
>
> ;; .emacs
> (setq gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist
> '(
> (gnus-unread-mark)
> (gnus-ticked-mark (subject 100))
> (gnus-dormant-mark (subject 100))
>
> ;; ~/.gnus/score/all.SCORE
> ("from"
> ("gavenkoa" 200 nil s))
>
> and instead of getting 200 point for my articles I have 100 point as I
> previously (so I reload Gnus and Emacs) mark some articles in thread
> with same subject...
>
> It is bad to have adaptive scoring that overwrite user setting with
> probably have high height in most cases.

Thanks for confirming that there's indeed some problem here. I'll go
and ask on the development list.

And the hint with `V t' to check how a score is computed also confirms
the issue. For the thread I wanted to score manually, `V t' only shows
score contributions from adaptive scoring rules.

Bye,
Tassilo

[Tassilo Horn]

Tassilo Horn <ts...@gnu.org> writes:

>> It is bad to have adaptive scoring that overwrite user setting with
>> probably have high height in most cases.
>
> Thanks for confirming that there's indeed some problem here. I'll go
> and ask on the development list.
>
> And the hint with `V t' to check how a score is computed also confirms
> the issue. For the thread I wanted to score manually, `V t' only shows
> score contributions from adaptive scoring rules.

No, I was wrong. There's indeed a scoring entry from my manual scoring
intervention. It just happens that scoring on `thread' (`I T') seems to
mean something different than what I've expected.

I'll open a new, more specific thread.

Bye,
Tassilo