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andrea

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:59:46 AM11/26/09
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I have some questions to be able to finally drop the stupid web
interfaces...

My whole gnus configuration is here:
http://github.com/AndreaCrotti/Emacs-conf/blob/master/.emacs.d/conf/gnus.el

1. Faster creation of buffer
In newsgroup with 10k headers it takes really long time, so how could
I limit the fetching?
Is the fetching of articles only up to the agent or the agent?
It would be nice to fetch only last 1k or last 2 months headers, but
also be able to fetch them all if I need to look for something.

Otherwise I could just cache them all and the subsequent connections
would only fetch the last ones, what is the best way?

2. Hide/show function
Something like org-mode cycle-visibility bound to [TAB] is very
useful, would that be possible?
I started to write something (BTW what was the way to cut and paste
code with ---<---..?)

(defun hide-or-show ()
"hide or show thread depending on the status"
(interactive)
; (gnus-summary-show-thread)
(gnus-summary-hide-thread)
)

But I didn't find any variable to see if the current thread is being
shown or not.
Without something like that I think I can't decide if we must show or
hide.

Thanks a lot

andrea

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Nov 26, 2009, 8:14:37 AM11/26/09
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andrea <andrea....@gmail.com> writes:

I forgot the probably most important thing.
When I send messages I lose any track of them, I already asked this
question some time ago and added as consequence this line

(add-hook 'message-sent-hook 'gnus-score-followup-thread)

Now my messages are written as "=>..." instead of the name of the
thread, but they are not scored.

If I sort by score they don't go for first, and I also tried to score
manually my own threads and I lost those settings, should I call
something manually to save the scores (shouldn't that be automatic?)?

Also creating a /fake/ group with my discussions would be very nice, is
that possible?

andrea

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Nov 26, 2009, 5:07:38 PM11/26/09
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Another couple things given that I'm here

1. why the default of the summary mode is to show the oldest messages first?
Shouldn't it always be preferable seeing the last ones first?

2. Sometimes I just don't find the messages, for example now I've posted
twice in the same thread, but the second message just doesn't appear,
while it does appear if I go to google groups.

Thanks anyone for the help, I really would like to close the browser for
usenet forever ;)

Adam Sjøgren

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:52:19 PM11/27/09
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:07:38 +0100, andrea wrote:

> Another couple things given that I'm here

> 1. why the default of the summary mode is to show the oldest messages first?
> Shouldn't it always be preferable seeing the last ones first?

I prefer to read the question before the answer, so oldest-first seems
quite logical to me.

(You can, of course, configure Gnus to sort the messages in basically
any order you like.)


Best regards,

Adam

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"I'll dye without my hair!" Adam Sj�gren
as...@koldfront.dk

andrea

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Nov 28, 2009, 1:57:02 PM11/28/09
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as...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:07:38 +0100, andrea wrote:
>
> I prefer to read the question before the answer, so oldest-first seems
> quite logical to me.
>
> (You can, of course, configure Gnus to sort the messages in basically
> any order you like.)

Yes ok but maybe the messages posted one year ago are not so
interesting.

Some hints about what to set more or less?
The manual is great but not really understandable, a good tutorial would
also be a very good starting point.

Adam Sjøgren

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Nov 28, 2009, 2:02:15 PM11/28/09
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On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:57:02 +0100, andrea wrote:

> as...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj�gren) writes:

>> I prefer to read the question before the answer, so oldest-first seems
>> quite logical to me.

> Yes ok but maybe the messages posted one year ago are not so
> interesting.

Agreed. The usual way to read news/email in Gnus is that you don't see
previosly read (i.e. old) articles/emails. With that style of reading,
it isn't really a problem.

> Some hints about what to set more or less?

That depends on what you are trying to achieve?

> The manual is great but not really understandable, a good tutorial would
> also be a very good starting point.

Well volunteered!


:-),

Adam

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With bitter eyes as...@koldfront.dk
They've already paid the price
Money always takes the place of life"

Glyn Millington

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Nov 28, 2009, 3:29:03 PM11/28/09
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andrea <andrea....@gmail.com> writes:

> Some hints about what to set more or less?
> The manual is great but not really understandable, a good tutorial would
> also be a very good starting point.

Hi Andrea,

The old MyGnus tutorial is here:-

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusTutorial

might be worth a look. In some ways section 6 might be the one to start
with!

atb

Glyn

andrea

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Dec 1, 2009, 6:38:36 AM12/1/09
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Glyn Millington <wista...@linuxmail.org> writes:

> Hi Andrea,
>
> The old MyGnus tutorial is here:-
>
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusTutorial
>
> might be worth a look. In some ways section 6 might be the one to start
> with!
>

Good thanks I clarified a bit.
I also found some nice variables to filter for author/date etc etc in a
buffer.
The thing I still not find is how to automatically fetch always not more
than 2000 (for example) headers.

I've set the large-newsgroup variable and it asks me how many I want,
but is that possible that I can't set one value now and forever?

Scoring works somehow (I see the + when someone replies to my mails) but
sorting by scoring looks quite casual...

Another smtp related question, if I don't set any server of course it
complains.

But now I'm in a network where without configuring anything
echo "msg" | mail -s "subject" address

works fine, and it automatically takes an smtp server (I guess from MX
records of the dns database).

Can I do it also with gnus (Otherwise I have to set one smtp server with
authentication)?

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