Received: by 10.66.86.67 with SMTP id n3mr2070318paz.43.1349632183104; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Path: t10ni23619571pbh.0!nntp.google.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Subject: bug#12579: 24.1; Emacs 24.1 / 24.2 (daily) crashes Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:48:16 -0700 Lines: 42 Sender: debbugs-submit-boun...@debbugs.gnu.org Approved: bug-gnu-em...@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <80vcep2v3z.fsf@somewhere.org> <83txu87vlp.fsf@gnu.org> <80391srlog.fsf@somewhere.org> <83lifj7tlg.fsf@gnu.org> <80obkfrdrk.fsf@somewhere.org> <83haq77oar.fsf@gnu.org> <9406B35D2F4F4A12B64463151C5EC515@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1349632182 29176 208.118.235.17 (7 Oct 2012 17:49:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu Cc: 12...@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Fabrice Niessen' To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" Envelope-to: bug-gnu-em...@gnu.org X-Loop: help-debb...@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-boun...@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-em...@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debb...@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12579 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2ksV7I7g3yuaFCSZucMjcjmPEqfAAATOzw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-sub...@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Errors-To: debbugs-submit-boun...@debbugs.gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-em...@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Bytes: 4644 X-Received-Bytes: 4692 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > FWIW, I too get crashes frequently with Emacs 24 (.1, .2, > > and dev versions) on MS Windows. I even get them sometimes > > when I just click the Windows `X' box in > > the upper right of a frame, to close it. > > How frequently? I'm sorry I can't be much help here. I would say it crashes pretty much each time I use it - and I don't use it for long at a time. Generally, I use it (and also the latest dev version) now to test software that I develop using Emacs 23.4 (or older). If it did not crash so much then I would do that development using 24.2 or even the latest dev version. The crashes I get seem to happen randomly. I have not been able to associate them with anything particular that I or Emacs is doing at the time. As I mentioned, I've even had a few crashes occur when I just clicked a frame `X' to close the frame (an ordinary frame - nothing unusual). > Both the OP and you, Drew, are using the binary distributions from > alpha.gnu.org. I do not get crashes, frequent or otherwise, unless > there's a specific problem (like the 64-bit changes the other day). Yes. If you are not using those binaries then perhaps that is a relevant difference. > Perhaps something in the build process, compiler version, compilation > options...? It's hard to pinpoint any connection between both > problems without backtraces, though. Admittedly, there is not much to go on. Hopefully there will be more reports, with more useful information. One thing that seems interesting (but it doesn't necessarily mean anything) is that there seem (for me) to be the same frequency of crashes with 24.2 and a dev version (I don't really use 24.1 much at all, but IIRC it was the same story). There has been a lot of development since 24.1, including in the C code, but perhaps (?) some of the problems I'm seeing are the same since 24.1. Dunno.