Why isn't Do listed in Gnome Projects?

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Joe

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Oct 11, 2009, 11:31:14 AM10/11/09
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Why isn't Do listed on http://projects.gnome.org/? Isn't the point of
Do to be integrated with the Gnome Desktop?

Alex Launi

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Oct 11, 2009, 2:13:07 PM10/11/09
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Do is not a GNOME project.


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Robert Dyer

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Oct 11, 2009, 2:39:34 PM10/11/09
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On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Joe <joeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why isn't Do listed on http://projects.gnome.org/? Isn't the point of
> Do to be integrated with the Gnome Desktop?

There was some earlier discussion on this topic. See:

http://groups.google.com/group/gnome-do/browse_thread/thread/7457eb829b3a0ec8/91d9fc313f24196e?hl=en#91d9fc313f24196e

Basically as Alex said, GNOME Do is not officially part of GNOME. I
don't see that changing anytime soon either.

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Joe

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Oct 12, 2009, 12:48:03 PM10/12/09
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Thanks for the link. That answered most of my questions.

Want about the ubuntu? Is the any effort being made to have Do
integrated with ubuntu? Do they have any crazy requirements before
they will even consider it?


On Oct 11, 2:39 pm, Robert Dyer <psyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Joe <joehil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why isn't Do listed onhttp://projects.gnome.org/?Isn't the point of
> > Do to be integrated with the Gnome Desktop?
>
> There was some earlier discussion on this topic.  See:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/gnome-do/browse_thread/thread/7457eb82...

David Siegel

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Oct 12, 2009, 1:33:27 PM10/12/09
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I've talked to all the necessary people, and it seems that people are
receptive to having Do in Ubuntu if we want to push for it.

Again, I for one am not interested in Do in Ubuntu by default --
Unless we could do a huge amount of QA, a 1.0 release, a getting
started guide, etc. As it stands, Do is not sufficiently "for human
beings."

David

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Alex Launi

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Oct 12, 2009, 4:53:47 PM10/12/09
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Once Docky is excised from Do I'd like to devote a ton of development energy to fixing bugs, testing, etc.


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Robert Dyer

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Oct 12, 2009, 5:35:45 PM10/12/09
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Alex Launi <alex....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Once Docky is excised from Do I'd like to devote a ton of development energy
> to fixing bugs, testing, etc.

lp:~psybers/do/nodocky
https://code.launchpad.net/~psybers/do/nodocky/+merge/13193

lp:~psybers/do-plugins/nodocky
https://code.launchpad.net/~psybers/do-plugins/nodocky/+merge/13192

:-D

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David Siegel

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Oct 12, 2009, 5:37:46 PM10/12/09
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Jason said he's planning a Docky release Nov. 13ish -- Do should
release the same without Docky.

David
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BostonPeng

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Oct 13, 2009, 8:09:21 AM10/13/09
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Docky's getting pulled from Do? How/when did I miss that memo?
Personally I find it good news since for the way I work in Ubuntu
leaves Docky replicating too much of how I use AWN. If someone could
post a link to the announcement I'd like to share it on my blog for
those who also missed the info.

Joe

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Oct 13, 2009, 9:36:27 AM10/13/09
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This is the first I've heard about the split too. No blueprint. No
mailing-list post. Must be a secret kept on IRC. Sounds interesting.
How is this being implemented? Is it a shared library of do-core with
separate branches for docky and the launcher?

Chris Szikszoy

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Oct 13, 2009, 2:19:41 PM10/13/09
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We keep all of our secrets on IRC. All of the various UIs are in
their own library. Removing Docky is just a matter of removing that
library. If you like docky, start testing and reporting bugs on
Docky2. http://launchpad.net/docky

Robert Dyer

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Oct 13, 2009, 2:29:31 PM10/13/09
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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Joe <joeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is the first I've heard about the split too. No blueprint. No

No blueprint needed. Its quite simple to pull out.

> mailing-list post. Must be a secret kept on IRC. Sounds interesting.

Yes, we decided this all on IRC. There have been random hintings at
it on the mailing list (I think) and in bug reports but nothing really
'official'.

> How is this being implemented? Is it a shared library of do-core with
> separate branches for docky and the launcher?

Docky and Do are being totally split. To start with Docky2 will be
*just a dock*. We are aiming to get some form of integration with Do,
but I dont know if the first beta release will have that. They will
interoperate over dbus, at some point.

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Joe

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Oct 13, 2009, 4:32:45 PM10/13/09
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So does this mean Do will no longer have launcher functionality?

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Robert Dyer

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Oct 13, 2009, 5:15:54 PM10/13/09
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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Joe <joeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So does this mean Do will no longer have launcher functionality?

Launching applications is not directly tied into the Docky theme.
That works with any theme and will continue to work.

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Alberto Rodríguez

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Oct 13, 2009, 5:22:20 PM10/13/09
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So, Do themes will no longer support being docked? I mean, all the themes will have to be in the center of the screen?


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Robert Dyer

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Oct 13, 2009, 5:39:10 PM10/13/09
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2009/10/13 Alberto Rodríguez <alberto.c...@gmail.com>:

> So, Do themes will no longer support being docked? I mean, all the themes
> will have to be in the center of the screen?

All of the current themes (other than Docky) are centered, so yes.
Feel free to write a new theme that isnt! Just dont make that theme
an actual dock. ;-)

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David Siegel

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Oct 13, 2009, 5:42:51 PM10/13/09
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Feel free to make whatever Do theme you'd like, even if it is a dock :)

However, if you really want to work on a dock, I suggest contributing
to Docky :)

David
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Joe

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Oct 13, 2009, 8:15:00 PM10/13/09
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> So does this mean Do will no longer have launcher functionality?
Sorry, I meant Docky, not Do.

Chris Szikszoy

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Oct 13, 2009, 8:58:41 PM10/13/09
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Docky is now a separate project. Do won't have docky. Docky
(http://launchpad.net/docky) will still have launcher functionality.

BostonPeng

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Oct 14, 2009, 8:49:32 AM10/14/09
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Thanks for the info, Chris and Robert. It makes me wish I had the time
to get on IRC more often but I'll gladly publish news of the change
and the new URI for the Docky project on my blog.

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