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Scott V

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Nov 11, 2004, 1:28:39 AM11/11/04
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does the new pop features let you check labels and stuff. i want to
check labels individually as this would be the best for me and other i
guess so what you think? pop for labels!?

Derek

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Nov 11, 2004, 1:57:07 AM11/11/04
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i don't think the labels are supported. what does everyone else think?

Mark G

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Nov 11, 2004, 2:15:35 AM11/11/04
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in the screenshot from the Help Center, it looks like labels are not supported.


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:57:07 -0800, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> i don't think the labels are supported. what does everyone else think?



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Scott Villarosa

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Nov 11, 2004, 2:50:32 AM11/11/04
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it would be great if pop supported labels. this is the only thing keeping
me using freepops.

s.

Derek

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Nov 11, 2004, 2:55:36 AM11/11/04
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you mean freezer pops?

Scott Villarosa

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Nov 11, 2004, 4:59:47 AM11/11/04
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Greg Ritter

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Nov 11, 2004, 7:44:46 AM11/11/04
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Doesn't have anything to do with pop supporting labels. Clients using
the POP3 protocol can only downloaded information stored in the email
headers and body. If Google wants to support labels for POP3
downloads, they need to represent that metadata in a custom mail
header.

For example, Google sticks a custom mail header (X-Gmail-Received:) in
every Gmail with what looks like a unique identifier for the message.
You can see this by clicking More Options on a message and then Show
Original. I'd assume that this is the unique identifier used to track
other information, like labels, about that message in a Google
database. However, Gmail labels are not stored in the email headers. I
presume they're stored in a Google database somewhere.

Even if Google put the labels in, say, a custom X-GMail-Labels:
header, that doesn't necessarily do you any good. X-headers are just
ignored unless the mail client you're using has been developed to use
and recognize them. You might be able to do something with filters,
depending on the client, or create an extension for a client like
Thunderbird.

All irrelevant, though, since Google's not providing the labels in the
header metadata.

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Derek

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Nov 11, 2004, 5:03:40 AM11/11/04
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cool didn't know about that

Nancy McGough

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Nov 11, 2004, 8:07:06 AM11/11/04
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>> it would be great if pop supported labels. this is the only thing keeping
>> me using freepops.

On 11 Nov 2004 Greg Ritter (greg....@gmail.com) wrote:
> Even if Google put the labels in, say, a custom X-GMail-Labels:
> header, that doesn't necessarily do you any good. X-headers are just
> ignored unless the mail client you're using has been developed to use
> and recognize them. You might be able to do something with filters,
> depending on the client, or create an extension for a client like
> Thunderbird.


Or better yet, use an already existing standard namely IMAP
keywords, which are also known as user-defined labels or flags.
Just another reason for Gmail to support IMAP IMHO!

BTW, I have written about IMAP keywords on each of the URLs in my
sig below.

NM

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Scott V

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Nov 11, 2004, 8:22:12 AM11/11/04
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good for you! well, i've figured out a way to filter all mail from
gmail via header filters. it works neat. :P

s.

Triple Seven

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Nov 11, 2004, 8:31:41 AM11/11/04
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Nancy, you don't need the "<" and ">" tags around your links.
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kael

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Nov 11, 2004, 3:58:23 PM11/11/04
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Greg Ritter wrote:

> Even if Google put the labels in, say, a custom X-GMail-Labels:
> header, that doesn't necessarily do you any good. X-headers are just
> ignored unless the mail client you're using has been developed to use
> and recognize them. You might be able to do something with filters,
> depending on the client, or create an extension for a client like
> Thunderbird.

That would be great to have a 'X-Gmail-Labels'. With Thunderbird, it
could be possible to sort them by changing the message view.

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