How can I use Gmail SMTP ???

[BonaFides]

Some tech-savvy folks pls tell me how can I use Gmail SMTP to download
my mails to outlook/mozilla mail clients.

[Paparazzi]

Well, SMTP is used for sending mails and not for receiving.

For receiving mails, Gmail has to be either POP3 or IMAP compliant,
which it is not as of date. They are however working on it and promise
to give users this feature either for free or for a small fee.

As of now, your possibilities are:
1) POP Goes The Gmail ( http://jaybe.org/downloads.htm )
2) Gpopmail ( http://membres.lycos.fr/gpopmail/ )

both of which requires .NET version 1.1

3) Freepops (Sorry, U'll have to google for this as I don't have the
link)

Alternatively, Abiel is working on GmailerXP which promises to be
everything Gmail can do and more. Check this out on
http://gmailerxp.sourceforge.net/news.html . Its still in development,
so expect it to buggy. You could still use it to send mails and do a
lot of basic stuff now.

Hope that was helpful.
Cheers

[BonaFides]

thnx 4 ur tech support. i'm just the novice and don't know what is POP
and what's SMTP.
regards

[Mayuresh Kadu]

read this:

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/POP2.html

note: do trying using google once in a while.


- Mayuresh

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[Paparazzi]

Well, I'm not a techie myself... just passed on the lil knowledge I
had.

SMTP is Send Mail Transfer Protocol ... its used for sending mails.
POP3 - Don't remember the full form, but its basically for downloading
mail from the server on to your local PC.
IMAP - This too is for receiving mails, but to my knowledge and what
I've figured out, it basically lets one take action of the the mail
from the server itself. That is to say, one views the mail and deletes
or whatever on the server itself.

If someone sees that explanation, and thinks it absurd, please let me
know .......... politely ;)

Cheers

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POP3 -------- Post Office Protocol version 3

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[Mayuresh Kadu]

Hi,

POP = Post Office Protocol. You are right. In simpler terms, POP3 (or
POP v3 ) is whats used to *get* your mails and SMTP (Simple Mail
Transfer protocol) is whats used to *send* it. In other words, u usual
need to have both pop and smtp servers avialable to recv and send
mails resp. The reason why they are kept seperate is that ISPs can
have different servers for each (fro various reasons like security,
load distribution, virus scanning and what not)

IMAP, on the other hand, is a bit sophisticated. This protocol (like
the mail below rightly says) allows you to see and manipulate
mails+folders which your server holds *on the server itself*. What
makes it special is that one can simply view the "header" information
before actually downloading the mail to your locally. This comes in
particularly handy when u are receiving a *lot* of mails and would
rather spend time downloading ones that really matter and delete/move
the rest on the server itself.

Hope this clears it.

- Mayuresh (the techie) ;)

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:24:45 -0700, Paparazzi <jogyg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Fuzzy Logic]

SMTP is Simple Mail Transfer Protocol
POP3 is Post Office Protocol 3
IMAP is Internet Message Access Protocol

SMTP is indeed used to transfer mail from one system to another.

POP3 does just what you say, the mail is generally removed from the
system, but it doesn't have to be.

IMAP is used to leave your mail on the server, and is VERY flexible.

Fuzzy
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[Sreelatha Nagu]

Pretty much correct

>SMTP is Send Mail Transfer Protocol ... its used for sending mails.

Simple Mail Transfer Protocol - protocol used for exchanging mails between
machines.

>POP3 - Don't remember the full form, but its basically for downloading
>mail from the server on to your local PC.

Post Office Protocol

>IMAP - This too is for receiving mails, but to my knowledge and what
>I've figured out, it basically lets one take action of the the mail
>from the server itself. That is to say, one views the mail and deletes
>or whatever on the server itself.

IMAP - Internet Message Access Protocol

POP gets the whole message in entirety. If you have a 10 meg attachment, you
will know only after downloading the full message to your mailbox from the
server. Whereas IMAP keeps the message in the server and you can view the
structure of the message. You will know that u have 10meg attachment without
having to download the entire message.

HTH,

Nagu

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[Mark G]

okay, just to give my advise:

The IMAP connection is a good place to start (http://www.imap.org) if
you want to know about IMAP (and POP3)

Here is the link to a good article (in IMAP connection) comparing POP
and IMAP. (POP3 is just POP version 3) :

http://www.imap.org/papers/imap.vs.pop.brief.html

for the non-techies, you may want to skip the first paragraph if it's
too technical. :-)



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[Sri Kat]

I used to use a client called Ultrafunk's popcorn and it downloaded
just the headers of mails using POP3 (not IMAP). So perhaps we can say
it provides IMAP functionality to POP3?

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:19:11 +0100, Mayuresh Kadu <msk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> POP = Post Office Protocol. You are right. In simpler terms, POP3 (or
> POP v3 ) is whats used to *get* your mails and SMTP (Simple Mail
> Transfer protocol) is whats used to *send* it. In other words, u usual
> need to have both pop and smtp servers avialable to recv and send
> mails resp. The reason why they are kept seperate is that ISPs can
> have different servers for each (fro various reasons like security,
> load distribution, virus scanning and what not)
>
> IMAP, on the other hand, is a bit sophisticated. This protocol (like
> the mail below rightly says) allows you to see and manipulate
> mails+folders which your server holds *on the server itself*. What
> makes it special is that one can simply view the "header" information
> before actually downloading the mail to your locally. This comes in
> particularly handy when u are receiving a *lot* of mails and would
> rather spend time downloading ones that really matter and delete/move
> the rest on the server itself.
>
> Hope this clears it.
>
> - Mayuresh (the techie) ;)
>

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[Ryan]

Ok folks enough with the email protocol lessons please.

[Ray Macey]

I'm sure I'm missing something, but I just don't get the point of using
GMail if you are simply going to use pop access. It means the two
features that make GMail unique (labels, and storage size) are
irrelevant, as it's all now handled by your mail client.

If you want to do that, why not use an email address provided by your
ISP, webhost etc?

Ray

[Mark G]

> I'm sure I'm missing something, but I just don't get the point of using
> GMail if you are simply going to use pop access. It means the two
> features that make GMail unique (labels, and storage size) are
> irrelevant, as it's all now handled by your mail client.

I agree. POP access to gmail really breaks a lot of the good things
abou gmail that you have mentioned. The only reason i see why you
would "POP" your gmail messages is to create a backup of all your
messages locally to your computer. Trusting a GIG of email data to a
company might just be a hard thing to fathom for some. Also if at this
point you are using Gmail as your primary email, backing up your data,
specially if there are important stuff with them is also a good idea.
It is a beta version after all.

If there is a way to make Gmail and IMAP work without losing the best
parts of gmail, it will be the ultimate email for me. I heard someone
mention here before about the IMAP keywords. If it will happen that a
standard way of adding labels/keywords to IMAP-able mail servers (and
clients) will be devised, then everyone will be happy. :-)

on a lighter note. I sure hope BonaFides didn't just have an
information overload because of all the response to her... :-p

[Isaac Hummel]

> I agree. POP access to gmail really breaks a lot of the good things
> abou gmail that you have mentioned. The only reason i see why you
> would "POP" your gmail messages is to create a backup of all your
> messages locally to your computer. Trusting a GIG of email data to a
> company might just be a hard thing to fathom for some. Also if at this
> point you are using Gmail as your primary email, backing up your data,
> specially if there are important stuff with them is also a good idea.
> It is a beta version after all.

There's also the issue of being able to migrate one's mail to another
service (Yahoo Mail Plus, for example) if one decides that Gmail
simply isn't for them. Many people will not use an email service as
their main account without such an "exit strategy".