wats da use of having gmail as our mail id if we can not recover our
chat history or e-mails deleted from trash........plz look in to the
matter........
> wats da use of having gmail as our mail id if we can not recover our
> chat history or e-mails deleted from trash........plz look in to the
> matter........
You mean it's a serious flaw that in order to permanently delete an email
from GMail, you have to:
1. Select the email
2. Click the delete button
3. Click some other link so that the big yellow 'undo' link goes away
4. Click the trash link
5. Select the email again
6. Click DELETE FOREVER
There are six steps that have to be taken in order for an email or chat to
be deleted from your trash. How is this a serious matter? If you're too
impulsive and delete things on a whim, then it's your own fault. What did
you think would happen when you clicked "DELETE FOREVER"?
Ah, he was complaining about deleting messages FROM the trash, after having already deleted them once. I missed that.
Nandita, if you didn't understand the meaning of "DELETE FOREVER", please look it up.
Andy
("Hey mister, there must be something wrong. If someone puts a gun to their head and pulls the trigger, it damages their brains. Please look into this matter.")
On 11/8/09, Marko Vukovic <marko.vuko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/8 Adam Boettiger <a...@adamboettiger.com>:
> > What dictionary are you using?
> LOL, I was wondering the same ;)
> --
> Marko
now all i could say is that whatever i learned about english men in bpo is
true...........you guys really need a dictonary for every damn
thing......dn't u worry we indians are working day and night for you people
Heh. That's a pretty good response, actually. (And I have a lot of respect for anyone who can keep their sense of humor when they are being teased.) So, I am not sure, what did you mean by "deleted from trash" - did you mean that you wanted to be able to restore emails after you deleted them, or did you mean that you had deleted them, and then emptied the trash, and then wanted to restore them? The first one is possible, the second one is not. (I don't know how chat history is handled by Gmail, I got tired of chat in general before Gmail was created.)
-0 1 - just my two bits
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 13:15, nandita singh <nandita.sin...@gmail.com>wrote:
> now all i could say is that whatever i learned about english men in bpo is > true...........you guys really need a dictonary for every damn > thing......dn't u worry we indians are working day and night for you people
On 08 Nov 2009, at 20:15, nandita singh <nandita.sin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> now all i could say is that whatever i learned about english men in > bpo is true...........you guys really need a dictonary for every > damn thing......dn't u worry we indians are working day and night > for you people
Nandita
I don't know what you mean by 'you people' but you don't know me or anything about me.
This group is a community of people discussing and helping each other with Gmail. You clearly have no idea how to behave in a community as you can't even be bothered to greet, be polite or even type properly so why should anyone bother with you?
The reverse is true as well - you don't know anything about Nandita either. Not everyone has English as their first language so it's dangerous to assume that poor spelling or grammar is the result of laziness or ignorance. The person asking for help might be translating from Chinese, Swahili, or Hindi. I could be wrong, but I got the impression that it was a tongue-in-cheek response to the criticisms of his (or her, it's not like I can see the person through the Internet) English.
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 19:39, Marko Vukovic <marko.vuko...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know what you mean by 'you people' but you don't know me or > anything about me.
> This group is a community of people discussing and helping each other > with Gmail. You clearly have no idea how to behave in a community as > you can't even be bothered to greet, be polite or even type properly > so why should anyone bother with you?
Agreed with Sean. You guys are out of line making fun of it. If
someone is clearly using just txt speak or something, that's one
thing, but poor grammar on a world-wide group is not a big deal. The
message was understandable, that's the important part.
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Sean Murphy <smpara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The reverse is true as well - you don't know anything about Nandita
> either. Not everyone has English as their first language so it's dangerous
> to assume that poor spelling or grammar is the result of laziness or
> ignorance. The person asking for help might be translating from Chinese,
> Swahili, or Hindi. I could be wrong, but I got the impression that it was a
> tongue-in-cheek response to the criticisms of his (or her, it's not like I
> can see the person through the Internet) English.
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 19:39, Marko Vukovic <marko.vuko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't know what you mean by 'you people' but you don't know me or
>> anything about me.
>> This group is a community of people discussing and helping each other
>> with Gmail. You clearly have no idea how to behave in a community as
>> you can't even be bothered to greet, be polite or even type properly
>> so why should anyone bother with you?
Would you expect to be able to recover something you mistakenly threw in a dumpster after the garbage truck has been through? Same idea. Trash is supposed to hold messages you plan to get rid of. Once you empty it, you are stating that you have no intention of even trying to get them back.
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:33 PM, nandita <nandita.sin...@gmail.com> wrote: > wats da use of having gmail as our mail id if we can not recover our > chat history or e-mails deleted from trash........plz look in to the > matter........
This was clearly txt speak, that much is obvious and it is definitely *not* appropriate and will result in flaming on any mailing list. Nandita can also not see us through the Internet but has concluded that we are indeed men, just as I can conclude that she is a woman as Nandita is a girl's name.
This is getting way OT. Point is, txt speak aside, it is unreasonable to expect to recover messages emptied from the trash. -- Marko
> The reverse is true as well - you don't know anything about Nandita
> either. Not everyone has English as their first language so it's dangerous
> to assume that poor spelling or grammar is the result of laziness or
> ignorance. The person asking for help might be translating from Chinese,
> Swahili, or Hindi. I could be wrong, but I got the impression that it was a
> tongue-in-cheek response to the criticisms of his (or her, it's not like I
> can see the person through the Internet) English.
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 19:39, Marko Vukovic <marko.vuko...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> I don't know what you mean by 'you people' but you don't know me or
>> anything about me.
>> This group is a community of people discussing and helping each other
>> with Gmail. You clearly have no idea how to behave in a community as
>> you can't even be bothered to greet, be polite or even type properly
>> so why should anyone bother with you?
hey sean ....thx 4 supporting me...........marko started as this.....n dats
my style f writing .......in chats n networking sites ......but poor marko
cudnt understand dis.............
> Ah, he was complaining about deleting messages FROM the trash, after
> having already deleted them once. I missed that.
> Nandita, if you didn't understand the meaning of "DELETE FOREVER",
> please look it up.
> Andy
> ("Hey mister, there must be something wrong. If someone puts a gun to
> their head and pulls the trigger, it damages their brains. Please
> look into this matter.")
Andy
thx 4 u wonderful suggestion.........n use she for me.......
> Heh. That's a pretty good response, actually. (And I have a lot of
> respect for anyone who can keep their sense of humor when they are being
> teased.) So, I am not sure, what did you mean by "deleted from trash" -
> did you mean that you wanted to be able to restore emails after you deleted
> them, or did you mean that you had deleted them, and then emptied the trash,
> and then wanted to restore them? The first one is possible, the second one
> is not. (I don't know how chat history is handled by Gmail, I got tired of
> chat in general before Gmail was created.)
> -0 1 - just my two bits
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 13:15, nandita singh <nandita.sin...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> now all i could say is that whatever i learned about english men in bpo is
>> true...........you guys really need a dictonary for every damn
>> thing......dn't u worry we indians are working day and night for you people
"deleted from trash " i meant .....dat mails wer deleted by me frm inbox
> as wel as trash.....n want sum one 2 help me recover those mail.
Ryan,
I agree they are out of line for making fun of it, but it appears to
me to be clearly txt speak. As you say, this is a world-wide group,
and while broken English can be expected from non-native English
speakers, improper English from native speakers, becomes completely
unreadable for the non-natives. The seems so much like txt speak
because our non-native speakers, typically have proper spelling and
structure at least, since they are learning from a book.
Nandita,
This is a world-wide group, and every attempt should be made at proper
English so users from around the world are able to understand you and
participate in the conversation. While your original message could be
"understood", it did not appear to be an attempt at proper English.
Please try to do better in the future. It will reduce criticism, and
potentially solicit a better response. Personal "style" aside, in a
forum such as this, you have to consider others.
On Nov 8, 11:15 pm, Ryan Morehart <moreh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed with Sean. You guys are out of line making fun of it. If
> someone is clearly using just txt speak or something, that's one
> thing, but poor grammar on a world-wide group is not a big deal. The
> message was understandable, that's the important part.
> Ryan
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Sean Murphy <smpara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The reverse is true as well - you don't know anything about Nandita
> > either. Not everyone has English as their first language so it's dangerous
> > to assume that poor spelling or grammar is the result of laziness or
> > ignorance. The person asking for help might be translating from Chinese,
> > Swahili, or Hindi. I could be wrong, but I got the impression that it was a
> > tongue-in-cheek response to the criticisms of his (or her, it's not like I
> > can see the person through the Internet) English.
> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 19:39, Marko Vukovic <marko.vuko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I don't know what you mean by 'you people' but you don't know me or
> >> anything about me.
> >> This group is a community of people discussing and helping each other
> >> with Gmail. You clearly have no idea how to behave in a community as
> >> you can't even be bothered to greet, be polite or even type properly
> >> so why should anyone bother with you?
>>> "deleted from trash " i meant .....dat mails wer deleted by me frm inbox >>> as wel as trash.....n want sum one 2 help me recover those mail.
Sorry, but you can't get them back. Once they are deleted forever from the trash (which means you intentionally deleted them TWICE), they are gone, forever. Really.
If you use Windows (or a Mac too, I think), it is similar to deleting a file, then emptying the Recycle bin and scrubbing the space on the disk where it was. It is truly gone for good.
By indicating that you wanted them deleted from the trash, you were telling Google you really do not want those messages anymore and they can delete all record of them.
Unless you have invented a Time Machine to go back in time, there is nothing you or anyone else can do.
On the other hand, if you used POP or IMAP or something else to copy all your emails to your home computer, or if you can contact the people who sent you those emails and ask them to send them again, there might be a way to get them back.
(And I apologize for referring to you as "he" earlier ... I am not very good with names.)
On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, nandita singh <nandita.sin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hey sean ....thx 4 supporting me...........marko started as > this.....n dats my style f writing .......in chats n networking > sites ......but poor marko cudnt understand dis............
Okay... I'm going to call BS here.
Nandita:
1. I'm happy that txt speak is how you feel most comfortable expressing yourself. However;
2. This is not a teen chat room on AOL, nor is it SMS.
3. If you feel you must use text speak, please ask your Gmail questions in an AOL chat room and not here.
If you can't be bothered to type "that" instead of "dat", or "of" instead of "f", if the group is not worthy of proper English, how can you possibly expect people to want to take the time to help you, let alone understand you?
4. "Everything I learned in BPO"
I'm pretty sure they did not teach you in BPO that it was appropriate to use text speak in email. It's not. It's unprofessional and makes you appear as either naive, ignorant or 14 years old.
Please use proper English or move to an AOL chat room.
5. For anyone here thinking this is a case of a foreign national trying to use English, it's not. See the quote at the top of this message.
> >>> "deleted from trash " i meant .....dat mails wer deleted by me frm > inbox > >>> as wel as trash.....n want sum one 2 help me recover those mail.
> Sorry, but you can't get them back. Once they are deleted forever > from the trash (which means you intentionally deleted them TWICE), > they are gone, forever. Really.
> If you use Windows (or a Mac too, I think), it is similar to deleting > a file, then emptying the Recycle bin and scrubbing the space on the > disk where it was. It is truly gone for good.
> By indicating that you wanted them deleted from the trash, you were > telling Google you really do not want those messages anymore and they > can delete all record of them.
> Unless you have invented a Time Machine to go back in time, there is > nothing you or anyone else can do.
> On the other hand, if you used POP or IMAP or something else to copy > all your emails to your home computer, or if you can contact the > people who sent you those emails and ask them to send them again, > there might be a way to get them back.
> (And I apologize for referring to you as "he" earlier ... I am not > very good with names.)
> Andy
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> On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, nandita singh <nandita.sin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > hey sean ....thx 4 supporting me...........marko started as
> > this.....n dats my style f writing .......in chats n networking
> > sites ......but poor marko cudnt understand dis............
> Okay... I'm going to call BS here.
> Nandita:
> 1. I'm happy that txt speak is how you feel most comfortable
> expressing yourself. However;
> 2. This is not a teen chat room on AOL, nor is it SMS.
> 3. If you feel you must use text speak, please ask your Gmail
> questions in an AOL chat room and not here.
> If you can't be bothered to type "that" instead of "dat", or "of"
> instead of "f", if the group is not worthy of proper English, how can
> you possibly expect people to want to take the time to help you, let
> alone understand you?
> 4. "Everything I learned in BPO"
> I'm pretty sure they did not teach you in BPO that it was appropriate
> to use text speak in email. It's not. It's unprofessional and makes
> you appear as either naive, ignorant or 14 years old.
> Please use proper English or move to an AOL chat room.
> 5. For anyone here thinking this is a case of a foreign national
> trying to use English, it's not. See the quote at the top of this
> message.
> Nuff said. Next topic please!
> AB
> > wow.......Adam
Seems i hit the correct cord.You are hurt,so was i............
Better not crack jokes over here.Its a GOOGLE GROUP not a AOL chat room.
If you feel like doing so move to AOL chat room :P
> wats da use of having gmail as our mail id if we can not recover our
> chat history or e-mails deleted from trash........plz look in to the
> matter........
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