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Roger Coppock

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Mar 24, 2008, 9:49:53 PM3/24/08
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Please see download the PDF file,
"CO2 greenhouse effect.pdf", at:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lrw29h

Eric Swanson

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Mar 25, 2008, 1:02:13 PM3/25/08
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Nice to see that the Russians have discovered convection in the
Troposphere. I wonder how long it will take them to learn about the
emission/absorption properties of gases? For example, the outgoing
energy absorbed by CO2 is then re-radiated in all directions, that is
to say, downwards as well as upwards. More CO2 results in more
downward radiation, a fact which their reference to black body
emissions and Stefan-Boltzmann glosses over completely. Their
analysis also completely ignores the Stratosphere!!

There's other errors as well, such as their insistence that the solar
constant be divided by 2 instead of by 4 to compute the Earth's
outgoing energy per unit area, which they claim is necessary since the
axis is tilted. That claim ignores the fact that the atmosphere and
oceans move considerable quantities of energy toward the polar
regions, which compensates for the fact that there is no solar energy
at the poles during the respective winter months.

E. S.
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Roger Coppock

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Mar 25, 2008, 11:06:54 PM3/25/08
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Yes Eric. There are many problems here.
So many, everyone can have his or her own.
The problem I first saw was that they
gloss over the wind speeds necessary for
their convection. (Top of page 5.)
Also, the paper ignores observed changes
in the lapse rate. (Middle of page 5.)

Yet, this is certain to become part of
"Cee-OH-Too" pseudo science, like the
'You can't average global temperatures.'
myth.
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