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Ken Caldeira  
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 More options Dec 2 2009, 9:41 pm
From: Ken Caldeira <kcalde...@globalecology.stanford.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:41:09 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 2 2009 9:41 pm
Subject: From Ben Santer: Open letter to the climate science community

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Neil Farbstein  
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 More options Dec 3 2009, 12:57 am
From: Neil Farbstein <pro...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:57:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 12:57 am
Subject: Re: From Ben Santer: Open letter to the climate science community
The hackers seem to have stolen bad info and now are disseminating it
as truth that was covered up until now. If you live in my part of the
world you will notice we are having warmer weather every
year and the weather-casters are getting stumped more and more often
as they miss predictions by wide margins They always estimate too low.

As far as spraying ocean water to cool off the arctic etc, I think it
will rake a lot less resources to seed the clouds with small amounts
of iodide or other substances with the same effect. Dry ice is too
bulky but its a renewable resource. I still say we can cool off the
gulf stream and the winds blowing up from the south.

On Dec 2, 9:41 pm, Ken Caldeira <kcalde...@globalecology.stanford.edu>
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David  
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 More options Dec 10 2009, 8:29 am
From: David <dsteu...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:29:43 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 10 2009 8:29 am
Subject: Re: From Ben Santer: Open letter to the climate science community
Global Warming was not a topic that I generally gave much thought
until the release of FOI2009.zip into the wild. Yes, I have a copy.
BTW, if I were investigating the leak, I would be looking to the
people who have administrative access to the mail servers and other
servers that had copies of the documents. I assume the log files are
still available for user log ins. sudo also keeps logs.

Anyway, I saw a tweet about ESR talking about the CRU (which I had no
knowledge of at the time). So my first experiences were from the
skeptics on AGW. Well I'm a skeptic myself. I didn't simply stop
there. Serious accusations were made and they too have to be proven. I
ended up looking at realclimate.org, 350.org, and other resources.
Resources I was not previously aware of.

The evidence for AGW has become more compelling in my mind.

So regardless of the harm caused by FOI2009.zip being set free, it is
not all bad. I bet I'm not the only new person thinking about AGW
seriously now. Before December, I didn't even know what AGW was. Sure,
I had heard of the green house effect. I knew there was debate on
global warming. But I didn't think about it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one to start thinking about the CO2. Heck, I
always thought volcanoes produced more of it than human activity did.
So much for that idea:

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php

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