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  <title type="text">GeekUp Google Group</title>
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  GeekUp is a community of web designers, web developers, and other tech-minded folk from the North West. Our socials take place once a month in Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, Preston and Sheffield they are always a lively place to share ideas and spread a little knowledge.
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  <updated>2008-07-24T13:28:33Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mark Keating</name>
  <email>mark.keat...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T13:28:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/30de0a791c175885?show_docid=30de0a791c175885</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/30de0a791c175885?show_docid=30de0a791c175885"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: You know the old psychology experiment...</title>
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  Shalom. &lt;br&gt; No harm done. I debate as much as I can without revealing my true feelings &lt;br&gt; or beliefs, I use discourse to stimulate thinking. &lt;br&gt; But I rarely dismiss a persons entire thinking just because I find them &lt;br&gt; reprehensible or offensive, if I did that I would spend my day with my &lt;br&gt; fingers in my ears, eyes closed tightly saying la la la as loud as possible,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Simon Greenwood</name>
  <email>sfgreenw...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T13:27:21Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/6727836fdae89979?show_docid=6727836fdae89979</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/6727836fdae89979?show_docid=6727836fdae89979"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: Very handy reference</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Ah, you must be on version 0.2. Do an svn update and move to the development &lt;br&gt; tree. &lt;br&gt; (I&#39;m new to python, is it me or do all python applications seem to work like &lt;br&gt; that?) &lt;br&gt; s/
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Simon Wheatley</name>
  <email>li...@simonwheatley.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2008-07-24T13:26:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/593fedcdb10effce/6aedb41a8655c5d7?show_docid=6aedb41a8655c5d7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/593fedcdb10effce/6aedb41a8655c5d7?show_docid=6aedb41a8655c5d7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: Protx and PHP</title>
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  3D authorisation *in general* is badly thought through and a usability &lt;br&gt; issue for customers. Not to mention training customers to blindly type &lt;br&gt; security details into unverified sites (many merchants use an iFrame to &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;retain the user experience&amp;quot;). I could go on. For hours. Idiots. &lt;br&gt; S
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Giacomo Lacava</name>
  <email>g.lac...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-07-24T13:22:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/7df2826b3920cf7c?show_docid=7df2826b3920cf7c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/7df2826b3920cf7c?show_docid=7df2826b3920cf7c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: You know the old psychology experiment...</title>
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  fair enough. &lt;br&gt; Sorry, I&#39;m a bit sensitive about bringing up Rand these days, I &lt;br&gt; thought for a minute you were part of the cult. &lt;br&gt; We got enough bastards in the world without giving them an excuse to &lt;br&gt; be such, as she does in her books probably because she was one &lt;br&gt; herself. &lt;br&gt; Peace &lt;br&gt; Giacomo
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kian Ryan</name>
  <email>kianro...@googlemail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-07-24T13:22:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/b2def638e0b14615?show_docid=b2def638e0b14615</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/b2def638e0b14615?show_docid=b2def638e0b14615"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: Very handy reference</title>
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  Knowing similar things to have happened to friends heavily involved &lt;br&gt; with weaponry of one sort or another, I would be *mightily* surprised &lt;br&gt; if it hadn&#39;t happened at *least* once. &lt;br&gt; Kian Ryan &lt;br&gt; Mobile:	+44 (0) 798 333 43 24 &lt;br&gt; E-mail:	k...@bcs.org &lt;br&gt; Web:	&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.kianryan.co.uk/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Giacomo Lacava</name>
  <email>g.lac...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T13:15:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/7d08267db650d95b?show_docid=7d08267db650d95b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/7d08267db650d95b?show_docid=7d08267db650d95b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: Very handy reference</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  yeah, but when I do: &lt;br&gt; Traceback (most recent call last): &lt;br&gt; File &amp;quot;&amp;lt;stdin&amp;gt;&amp;quot;, line 1, in &amp;lt;module&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; AttributeError: &#39;antigravityEngine&#39; object has no attribute &#39;getShirt&#39;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Phil Thompson</name>
  <email>he...@philthompson.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T13:13:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/593fedcdb10effce/44270bef065141f1?show_docid=44270bef065141f1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/593fedcdb10effce/44270bef065141f1?show_docid=44270bef065141f1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Protx and PHP</title>
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  2008/7/24 &amp;lt;frost.st...@blueyonder.co.uk&amp;gt; : &lt;br&gt; Yes, I&#39;ve integrated it into Cart45 [1] - it&#39;s a nightmare. Their 3D &lt;br&gt; authorisation is both difficult to integrate and a usability issue for &lt;br&gt; customers. &lt;br&gt; 1: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.cart45.com/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mark Keating</name>
  <email>mark.keat...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T13:11:03Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/b0967b8be67df4ba?show_docid=b0967b8be67df4ba</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/b0967b8be67df4ba?show_docid=b0967b8be67df4ba"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: You know the old psychology experiment...</title>
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  I only agreed with the one statement, not the whole oeuvre. i agree with &lt;br&gt; many statements in the Bible but I don&#39;t believe in God. And I don&#39;t &lt;br&gt; understand are you calling me the list of things (greedy, self-centred, &lt;br&gt; gay-bashing, sexist, turbocapitalistic individual) or Rand? &lt;br&gt; Oh, also, I am not an objectivist.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Simon Greenwood</name>
  <email>sfgreenw...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T13:05:21Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/52c54383251593b1?show_docid=52c54383251593b1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/52c54383251593b1?show_docid=52c54383251593b1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: Very handy reference</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  from xkcd import antigravity works here. &lt;br&gt; s/
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Simon Greenwood</name>
  <email>sfgreenw...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T13:04:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/593fedcdb10effce/dd61407f9ebf24af?show_docid=dd61407f9ebf24af</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/593fedcdb10effce/dd61407f9ebf24af?show_docid=dd61407f9ebf24af"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Protx and PHP</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Both OSCommerce[1] and Magento[2] have PHP plugins for Protx. I have the &lt;br&gt; OSCommerce one working well on a client site although I haven&#39;t really &lt;br&gt; looked into how it works. &lt;br&gt; 1. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.oscommerce.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; 2. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.magentocommerce.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; s/
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <email>frost.st...@blueyonder.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T12:59:03Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/593fedcdb10effce/09b6c56c4485e155?show_docid=09b6c56c4485e155</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/593fedcdb10effce/09b6c56c4485e155?show_docid=09b6c56c4485e155"/>
  <title type="text">Protx and PHP</title>
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  Does anyone on the list have any experience of integrating protx VSP &lt;br&gt; direct on to a site with PHP, I&#39;m having some troubles with the server &lt;br&gt; response. &lt;br&gt; Steve
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Giacomo Lacava</name>
  <email>g.lac...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T12:58:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/e2494ec51a29ad08?show_docid=e2494ec51a29ad08</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/e2494ec51a29ad08?show_docid=e2494ec51a29ad08"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Very handy reference</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Sigh, still no &amp;quot;import antigravity&amp;quot; shirt, despite being an obvious &lt;br&gt; choice. I really have to do it myself....
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Giacomo Lacava</name>
  <email>g.lac...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T12:56:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/f27335f4b4effa0d?show_docid=f27335f4b4effa0d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/f27335f4b4effa0d?show_docid=f27335f4b4effa0d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: You know the old psychology experiment...</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  So you have several centuries of philosophical debate on one side, and &lt;br&gt; a crazy bitch on the other... &lt;br&gt; (btw, I can&#39;t imagine how an objectivist can say that &amp;quot;to be truly &lt;br&gt; ethical you must be as altruistic as possible.&amp;quot; -- then, as a greedy &lt;br&gt; self-centred, gay-bashing, sexist, turbocapitalistic individual, you
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Francis Fish</name>
  <email>francis.f...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T12:53:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/cacce0ecfad8ce04?show_docid=cacce0ecfad8ce04</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/ccc19326a728ddf9/cacce0ecfad8ce04?show_docid=cacce0ecfad8ce04"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: Very handy reference</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Phillip B Oldham &amp;lt;phillip.old...@gmail.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; I did hear a tale of an historical re-enactment bod once chasing some &lt;br&gt; scallies around Glasgow with his claymore but I bet it&#39;s not true. Just wish &lt;br&gt; it was ...
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>James Peel</name>
  <email>james.p...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-24T12:35:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/497247b2dccf7b73?show_docid=497247b2dccf7b73</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/b79ff8755cb7565d/497247b2dccf7b73?show_docid=497247b2dccf7b73"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [GeekUp] Re: You know the old psychology experiment...</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  But it is ok to leave a gaggle of scagheads passed out face down next to &lt;br&gt; picadilly station, right? Cos i do that most days. &lt;br&gt; 2008/7/24 Mark Keating &amp;lt;mark.keat...@gmail.com&amp;gt;:
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