PR Stuff

[Daniel Nauschuetz]

There has been little activity on the PR front, but the mind is churning.

We don't seem to have any products: shirts, mugs, pens, etc.  I am not sure that there is much of a desire within the community for this, but I am going to start making effort for myself.  I prefer somebody with some better contacts to do the legwork (hint, hint).

Why?  Convention season is coming, and I hit at least one (Baltimore Comicon).  My girls also enjoy Katzucons and the like.  It seems that getting around with something identifiable makes sense, and my family is nothing if not willing to do our part.

I will order some business cards and start plotting out my summer.  Anybody with me on this?

Daniel

[Lionel English]

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I will order some business cards and start plotting out my summer.  Anybody with me on this?

I'm definitely with you on wanting some business cards.  I found myself at WonderCon a couple of weeks ago unexpectedly, and was realizing how helpful it would have been to have some handy when talking to people.

On the merchandise front... I wouldn't mind seeing some offered, but I don't know that it would prove useful at a convention.  We'd have to have a table or something, wouldn't we?

Looking farther ahead, we're two years away from our 20th anniversary, and I'd definitely like to put together a dog and pony show for the convention circuit that year.

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[Lionel English]

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Lionel English <lio...@beanmar.net> wrote:

On the merchandise front... I wouldn't mind seeing some offered, but I don't know that it would prove useful at a convention.  We'd have to have a table or something, wouldn't we?

 

Actually, thinking about it again, it would be nice to have a GCD t-shirt to wear *to* conventions.

 

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Lionel English

San Diego, CA
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[Daniel Nauschuetz]

My thoughts exactly. I am not sure we are ready for a table, but i would like to have some stuff on me (shirt, cards, etc) as i walk the floor and introduce myself.

Daniel

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[Daniel Nauschuetz]

My wife asked a very good question while she was on our site: where is the online shopping cart?

I have no good answer.  Have we ever discussed an online store?  Is there any reason we don't have one?

Daniel

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From: Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com>
To: "gcd-...@googlegroups.com" <gcd-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [gcd-board] PR Stuff

[R Bottorff]

Because we are a database, not a business that buys and sells. When I use Ancestry.com, I do not expect a shopping cart when I look up things. my best -Ray --- On Sun, 5/13/12, Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff

[Daniel Nauschuetz]

Being a database and a non-profit organization does not answer the question. 

 

Her question comes from helping me brainstorm on a PR front.  The GCD is not a business, but it is a community looking to expand.  That expansion requires some level of brand awareness. 

 

Her question comes from a community involvement front.  I mentioned earlier that I am a member who would like to wear some GCD gear particularly as the convention season ramps up.  Am I the only member within our community who wants to purchase GCD stuff?

 

Daniel

From: R Bottorff <carch...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff

Because we are a database, not a business that buys and sells. When I use Ancestry.com, I do not expect a shopping cart when I look up things. my best

-Ray--- On Sun, 5/13/12, Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff To: "gcd-...@googlegroups.com" <gcd-...@googlegroups.com> Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 9:54 PM

My wife asked a very good question while she was on our site: where is the online shopping cart? I have no good answer.  Have we ever discussed an online store?  Is there any reason we don't have one? Daniel

From: Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com> To: "gcd-...@googlegroups.com" <gcd-...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 11:37 PM Subject: [gcd-board] PR Stuff There has been little activity on the PR front, but the mind is churning. We don't seem to have any products: shirts, mugs, pens, etc.  I am not sure that there is much of a desire within the community for this, but I am going to start making effort for myself.  I prefer somebody with some better contacts to do the legwork (hint, hint). Why?  Convention season is coming, and I hit at least one (Baltimore Comicon).  My girls also enjoy Katzucons and the like.  It seems that getting around with something identifiable makes sense, and my family is nothing if not willing to do our part. I will order some business cards and start plotting out my summer.  Anybody with me on this? Daniel -- GCD-Board mailing list - gcd-...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe send email to gcd-board+...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gcd-board

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[Lionel English]

At the moment we have nothing to sell.  If we are interested in creating and selling some GCD swag (t-shirts, coffee cups, etc) (and I have no objections to doing so) then we need to add several things to the agenda to cover the preliminaries:

* Agreement on what merchandise we wish to sell

* Design of said merchandise

* Decide on provider of said merchandise

* Decide if we are going to sell directly or if we will outsource and collect commissions

 

I'm sure there are services out there that could take care of items three and four.  http://www.customlogos.com/services/, for example, is local to me, though we'd have to take into consideration how large (or, rather, small) our production runs would likely be and find someone who could work within those limits.

[Daniel Nauschuetz]

Agree, concur and absolutely.  This is my first salvo at the subject.  I hope that the thread answers two questions:

(1) Has this been discussed and resolved in the past?

(2) Is there any interest from within the Board for me to start down this path?

I would hate to find out that this was discussed and dismissed, and I will not attempt this if there is no desire from the my esteemed colleagues on the Board.  So I (im)patiently wait for more feedback.

Daniel

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From: Lionel English <lio...@beanmar.net>
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 7:14 PM

Subject: Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff

[Merlin Haas]

I have no problem with selling GCD-branded stuff, thought it's not
something I'm interested in. T-shirts, etc. might help with exposure
at cons. It's one of those things that would be ok to do if it
didn't take energy away from the main project.

best -- Merln Haas

>Agree, concur and absolutely. This is my first salvo at the
>subject. I hope that the thread answers two questions:
>(1) Has this been discussed and resolved in the past?
>(2) Is there any interest from within the Board for me to start down
>this path?
>
>I would hate to find out that this was discussed and dismissed, and
>I will not attempt this if there is no desire from the my esteemed
>colleagues on the Board. So I (im)patiently wait for more feedback.
>
>Daniel
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[R Bottorff]

It would be nice, I think to have branded t-shirts or polo shirts to wear when we have do our 20th anniversary stuff at, hopefully, San Diego, that will be nice.

my best
-Ray

--- On Mon, 5/14/12, Merlin Haas <mvh...@elpaso.net> wrote:

[Tony Rose]

We discussed it.  I was enthusiastic; the rest of the board was somewhat tepid.  I'm still gungho but I don't know how much help I can be at this point.




tony

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From: "Daniel Nauschuetz" <nausc...@yahoo.com>
To: gcd-...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:30:46 PM

[Daniel Nauschuetz]

I starting a recruiting campaign for this effort.  I will be looking for somebody to help me come up with a plan to present to the Board, so no actual action will be taken without approval.  If anybody is interested in helping me out, let me know.  I will post a "Help Wanted" ad on Main, but I am also looking outside the GCD community for volunteers.  It seems that we are essentially tapped out running at full capacity, and I wonder if I can attract non-indexers to start helping with our other efforts.  I know, I know....noble goals, but we have alot of things we want to accomplish.

Daniel

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From: Tony Rose <tonyr...@comcast.net>
To: gcd-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:01 AM

[R Bottorff]

To be honest, I would really love to see a replacement made for our ad in Alter Ego, which is several years old and contact info woefully out of date. my best -Ray

--- On Fri, 5/18/12, Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Lionel English]

I don't recall this.  Was this while I was on hiatus a few years ago?  At any rate, I don't recall anyone actively opposing ideas such as this.

[Lionel English]

The vast majority of people who are part of this project are indexers (including virtually all of the editors).  I support any ideas which create/encourage other forms of participation.

[Alexandros Diamantidis]

No opposition - I remember this coming up in the lists a couple of
times, and the conversation went like: "Wouldn't it be nice if we had
GCD t-shirts/caps/cups/etc?". Nobody was opposed to this, very few
showed active interest (I suppose Tony was the most enthusiastic!) -
then, nobody took it in their hands to organise it and the
conversation died out.

I think the hardest part is to agree on a design. If we had a compelling
modern design we could put in front of people's eyes, I think there
would be much more interest. Right now, it's harder to express interest
in the abstract. Does anyone know a graphic designer who could help;

I have a graphic designer colleague who I could ask for advice... Not
sure if we can find someone to do a design for free or we would need
to hire somebody.

By the way... I think I had asked about this a couple of years ago and
there *was* some opposition... but how about creating a GCD web forum?
Mailing lists and forums attract different audiences, and it might help
with bringing in some new people. The main difficulty would be to keep
the forum alive, since so many of the GCD old hands prefer the mailing
lists, and we're spread a bit too thin already.

Alexandros

* Lionel English [2012-05-20 22:46]:

> I don't recall this. Was this while I was on hiatus a few years ago? At
> any rate, I don't recall anyone actively opposing ideas such as this.
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Tony Rose <tonyr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > We discussed it. I was enthusiastic; the rest of the board was somewhat
> > tepid. I'm still gungho but I don't know how much help I can be at this
> > point.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > tony
> >
> >

> > ------------------------------
> > *From: *"Daniel Nauschuetz" <nausc...@yahoo.com>
> > *To: *gcd-...@googlegroups.com
> > *Sent: *Monday, May 14, 2012 9:30:46 PM
> >
> > *Subject: *Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff

> >
> > Agree, concur and absolutely. This is my first salvo at the subject. I
> > hope that the thread answers two questions:
> > (1) Has this been discussed and resolved in the past?
> > (2) Is there any interest from within the Board for me to start down this
> > path?
> >
> > I would hate to find out that this was discussed and dismissed, and I will
> > not attempt this if there is no desire from the my esteemed colleagues on
> > the Board. So I (im)patiently wait for more feedback.
> >
> > Daniel
> >

> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Lionel English <lio...@beanmar.net>
> > *To:* gcd-...@googlegroups.com
> > *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2012 7:14 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff

> >
> > At the moment we have nothing to sell. If we are interested in creating
> > and selling some GCD swag (t-shirts, coffee cups, etc) (and I have no
> > objections to doing so) then we need to add several things to the agenda to
> > cover the preliminaries:
> > * Agreement on what merchandise we wish to sell
> > * Design of said merchandise
> > * Decide on provider of said merchandise
> > * Decide if we are going to sell directly or if we will outsource and
> > collect commissions
> >
> > I'm sure there are services out there that could take care of items three
> > and four. http://www.customlogos.com/services/, for example, is local to
> > me, though we'd have to take into consideration how large (or, rather,
> > small) our production runs would likely be and find someone who could work
> > within those limits.
> >
> > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> > My wife asked a very good question while she was on our site: where is
> > the online shopping cart?
> >
> > I have no good answer. Have we ever discussed an online store? Is there
> > any reason we don't have one?
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> >

> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Daniel Nauschuetz <nausc...@yahoo.com>
> > *To:* "gcd-...@googlegroups.com" <gcd-...@googlegroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 2, 2012 11:37 PM
> > *Subject:* [gcd-board] PR Stuff

Alexandros Diamantidis * ad...@hellug.gr

[Tony Rose]

No, no.  No one opposed it, it was just a "meh" sort of opinion.  With some "we could probably spend our money better" thrown in.






tony

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From: "Lionel English" <lio...@beanmar.net>
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:46:39 AM

[Tony Rose]

I live with a graphic designer.  We've discussed this before.  I'll ask her to work something up and if she's willing, I'll get back to the group, soonest.




tony

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From: "Alexandros Diamantidis" <ad...@hellug.gr>
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:46:08 AM

Subject: Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff

[R Bottorff]

Hey Tony, I don't suppose she could whip up a new alter ego ad while she was at it? ;-) my best -Ray --- On Mon, 5/21/12, Tony Rose <tonyr...@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Tony Rose <tonyr...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff

[Daniel]

Does anybody have a copy of the ad? The new one should have the new fangled code box thing. Is this the only ad we have out?

Daniel

R Bottorff <carch...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hey Tony, I don't suppose she could whip up a new alter ego ad while she was at it? ;-)
>my best-Ray
>
>--- On Mon, 5/21/12, Tony Rose <tonyr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>From: Tony Rose <tonyr...@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [gcd-board] PR Stuff
>To: gcd-...@googlegroups.com
>Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 2:51 PM
>

>#yiv1527340362 p {margin:0;}I live with a graphic designer.  We've discussed this before.  I'll ask her to work something up and if she's willing, I'll get back to the group, soonest.
>
>
>
>
>tony
>

[R Bottorff]

On my old computer, but its really not needed, we need a new one from scratch.

my best
-Ray

--- On Mon, 5/21/12, Daniel <nausc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Tony Rose]

I'll talk to her.



tony

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