Yang Gong Fengshui Discussion & Fight Back
Stephen
I am breaking my silence in spite of what I had said in a previous
article that I shall not answer publicly questions that does not
fall under the category of ※enquiry§, or ※ and ※I shall not answer
to challenges publicly.§ I am willing to answer politely asked
questions, just like what I did in other forums.
We know that our ancient YG theories had debunked a lot of FS myths
being practiced by many schools and they being threatened, will
fight back. This is understandable! But, please fight back to
defend your practices why you think ours is wrong, like what we have
done! Only, if only we have been proven wrong, then we can learn
from you!
Therefore, I suppose Mr. goodfren is an FS master in Penang, and he
feels threatened by our presence. If our theories are bullshit, you
don＊t need to try to discredit us publicly. If YG theories are
bullshit, we will fade away and die a natural death in the world of
FS. You don＊t need to help others dig a hole for us.
We do welcome FS masters to post their theories to debunk ours.
That will make a lively discussion. It＊s no use posting frivolous
questions that doesn＊t benefit anyone.
To Goodfren99:
※Comparing without the temple owner authorities is not a valid feng
shui study. It is a matter of match up.§
You know very well that it is next to impossible to get the temple
authorities to talk, so why ask this type of question? You are from
Penang and an FS master, you should know. Why don＊t you post your
own theories to debunk ours and prove that we are bullshit, instead
of barking on the sidelines?
You should also know that in the field of research in any
discipline, researchers need to do studies to match up or to prove
that the theories can work. If you don＊t know this practice, I have
very serious doubt about your knowledge in anything.
We have done researches not only for this particular Temple, there
have been many temples in all parts of China we have audited,
especially those in Ganzhou and those around up in Yang Xian Ling
(Yang Gong Mountain). The researches found that Seating Kong Wang
Dragon and Xiao Kong Wang happened after Yang Gong＊ period. And
before that of others Fengshui Masters did not -- as Yang Gong is
the oldest Fengshui Master recorded as per History! There is no
Examanation or Examiner for Fengshui, we can only prove our Fengshui
theory and Practice against Historical Temple like the one in
Penang. Aas far as the temple is concerned it is more than a hundred
years old. This is no match up, because people will not simply do
fengshui (expecially for a temple) without any fengshui theories to
back up. Please prove me wrong by quoting any other Fengshui
masters who invented the Kong Wang Dragon and Xiao Kong Wang. I do
not think you can do it because Yang Gong was the recorded Fengshui
Master in FS History who invented these. Do not tell me History can
match up?
※Like all the famous people tomb you told, does they told you why
they setup their ancestor tomb be like that? if, not, you are only
on the guess page, not about your feng shui theory is working, i
only agreed on theory that is agreed by the ownwer who activate its
own feng shui which matches your feng shui theory.§
You are from Penang, and if you have any brains, you know very well
that the first CM and second CM are impossible to approach to,
especially for us to ask them about their ancestors＊ FS Ju (set-
up). If you are a FS master and a Chinese, I am ashamed of you for
asking this type of question. You know very well that the majority
of Chinese will find it TABOO to reveal their ancestor＊ FS Ju. Don＊
t just bark if you don＊t know what you are talking about.
※Do not skip to answer my question, i believed many would like to
know your answer, otherwise, stop promoting your theory.§
You have NO RIGHT to say this. You are USURPING the power of Ray
Langley who is the moderator/owner of this forum. If you have any
manners, please respect the owners. If Ray wants me out, that＊s a
legit move, and I shall respect that. If Ray finds that my postings
doesn＊t do any good, he＊ll just cut me off. He don＊t need you to
tell him what to do. I＊m done with you now.
This is for Andy Nicola;
I have been refraining from answering you because what you had been
barking at is very frivolous and impertinent. I know your
character 每 you feel that you are the champion of the weak 每 like
Robin Hood. I applaud you for your noble intentions. But I despise
you for you manners. If you are a REAL metaphysics student and
somebody who professes to KNOW Chinese philosophy, you should have
the manners to respect someone from a ※Tang§ that is recognized by
the Ganzhou Government of China, irrespective of whether he is
charging money or not for his teachings.
To ask about a refund guarantee on a subject like FS teaching is a
frivolous and impertinent way to ask a question. We are not in the
market selling toys, we are selling a knowledge. How are we going
to quantify or verify if you say that what you learnt from us is
BULLSHIT after we have taught you everything??? Can we DE-PROGRAM
your mind and extract the back knowledge?? If you have any brains
you should know what you are asking is FRIVOLOUS and IMPERTINENT.
If I am your master I shall be very ashamed to have such a
disrespectful student.
Looks like it, you did not go to school! According to Studies of
Economics -- nothing is free except those provided by God such as
Rain and Air! And everything has opportunity Costs????
FYI, we are LOOKING for people with AFFINITY with us so that we can
impart the YG teachings. The fees we asked for is way below what
many are asking. This is OUR profession and OUR bread and butter.
If you know Chinese Philosophy, you know very well that we have a
saying that ※ people should not throw sand into another＊s rice bowl§.
If you have no affinity with us, why do you try to discredit us
publicly? What is your intention? You don＊t need to be their
champion, for, as Ray Langley had wisely said Westerners aren＊t
stupid. They know how to research and find out for themselves whats
good for them. They don＊t NEED you to tell them!!! Are you under
the stupid category, those who only knows how to bark and not know
how to research what good for you?
Without the guidance of a Master, one is like walking in a desert
without a Compass!
Mr. Lee asked Any that:> can you kindly advise me which
> course offered a money back guarantee?I would like
> to attend that course, if there is one around.
Andy answered Mr. Lee that>§I can do better than that. I have known
people who
have not charged to teach a pupil, so there was no
need of a money back guarantee because the student
didn't have to pay. I myself have counciled, taught,
and tudored many people in person (several are members
of this list) and have not charged a single cent. I
have known Macrobiotic councilers who have not charged
for their teachings. From what I hear, Denny Waxmen
never paid Takashi Yoshikawa for the Ki studies he
recieved from him. Of course these are rare cases but
it happens now and then. If you yourself want to get
involved in 'free' studies I can almost promise you
that you'll be able to. You just have to know how to
look and how to ask.......but the catch is that you
have to have a driving unquenchable passion for your
studies and most people don't have that, so they get
stuck paying...and paying big.§
Mr. Chin said that Andy wants to learn Chinese Fengshui and he does
not want to respect
the Chinese Custom. In the olden days, he does not have to pay a
Master but he has to devote his whole life to serve him as a Master,
wash his underwear, cook for him and make bed for him!!!!!
Mr. Lee said that> to my personal opinion,
> if the course kindle my interest, and the fees that
> i can afford, i will go.
Andy said that>§No one is stopping you. If you want to pay $6,000 you
have that option. I can just about promise you that
ou will not be happy with the results, regardless of
who your teacher is...even if it's the greatest master
in the world. The reasons are too numerous to mention
here but I'd like to write a post about that exact
topic one day.§
Mr. Chin said to Andy that He might have come from a Country which
pays him to study for his
degree? In our Country we pay a lot of money to go to school and
yet the paper qualification is not quanranteed of a job! Do you
think it is the right thing to go back to the school and ask for a
refund?
Mr. Lee asked Andy again that > In metaphysics, course basically are
translated,
> like hetu,loushu, we can get any definition in
> dictionary, so, do you think after translation,
> imagination, self understanding, how many will get
> to know the meaning of terms and words used in
> classic?
Andy told Mr. Lee that >§No I don't think very many will get the true
meaning
of the terms and words.......and.......I don't think
very many masters/teachers know enough about the
meanings and terms to teach it. Shao Yung's work is a
perfect example. Some of the 'greatest' proffessors
and scholors in the world (including Chinese) can not
even agree on the title of his monumental classic with
the words right in front of their eyes. I have seen
10 different scholors give 10 different titles. If
they can't even translate 4 words of a title how in
the world are they possibly going to penetrate his
THOUGHT...especially when that thought was created
1,000 years ago. Commentaries of the classics are
mostly useless and Shao Yung said that relying on
commentaries will cause confusion and is like placing
a 'bed underneath a bed or a house underneath a
house'. The best way to learn is to go straight for
the classics on your own without anyone＊s interference.
With diligence you can penetrate the
classics.......and you don't have to pay someone
$6,000 for it. Good luck in your studies.§
Mr. Chin told Andy off that He does not know what he is talking about.
One might have read lots
of books written by Masters, but when it comes to practical, reading
means confusion! It will not help the practical unless he finds the
key from a Master. Who will give him the key just like that?? He
is dreaming???
If YG is NOT for you don＊t come. You are not welcome. We don＊t need
frivolous and impertinent people like you to tarnish our tradition.
Finally,
Ray Langley is a wise old man in the western FS world, and I respect
his wisdom. He had said what we had already in mind. We DID NOT
expect hundreds. We＊d be happy if we have 1, and it＊s a bonus if we
have more than that.
For all others, I have been refraining from saying this openly: we
as Chinese Metaphysicians believe in AFFINITY. Fengshui finds YOU
and not the other way around. Go ahead and research whether it is
necessary for you to learn YG FS. If it＊s not necessary, fine. If
you find it useful as an additional knowledge, you can always email
me to ask more questions. I am always willing to answer POLITELY
asked questions from those WITHOUT BAD intentions. The proof is in
other forums.
Also, may I add this: in this materialistic world, in Economics
sense, the law of Supply and Demand every transaction is based on a
WILLING BUYER WILLING SELLER situation. You don＊t like our
products, don＊t buy. Just simple as that. And in the field of
Metaphysics, similarly, we reserve our inalienable RIGHT and CHOICE
NOT to teach those we feel are not fit to carry the Yang Gong flag.
I have said my piece, and now it＊s up to Ray to decide whether to
bar further postings from me. NOBODY has that right other than
him. Thank you Ray, for letting me come this far. You have my
respect.
Ganzhou Yu Che Tang, Malaysia