How to Avoid Paying for an Unsolicited Idea?
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Probo
May 15, 2009, 3:43:01 AM5/15/09
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A good friend of mine has suggested that we develop a Stage Show to be
called:
'An Evening with Belle Elmore'
With Popular Songs from the era of the Edwardian Music Hall, when
Marie Lloyd strutted her stuff.
Belle was, of course, the Stage Name used by Dr Crippen's wife who was
herself a Muscal Hall performer. She was murdered by her husband in
1910 and next year will be the Centenary of her death.
It is a truly excellent idea but, as you would expect, I want AT LEAST
the Lion's Share of the Profits for myself. Or much more if possible.
For obvious reasons, I don't want to involve any Agents or Lawyers,
etc.
I want to be super crafty because my good friend is already well known
for his craftiness both on land and water.
Any ideas?
Many thanks
Probo
called:
'An Evening with Belle Elmore'
With Popular Songs from the era of the Edwardian Music Hall, when
Marie Lloyd strutted her stuff.
Belle was, of course, the Stage Name used by Dr Crippen's wife who was
herself a Muscal Hall performer. She was murdered by her husband in
1910 and next year will be the Centenary of her death.
It is a truly excellent idea but, as you would expect, I want AT LEAST
the Lion's Share of the Profits for myself. Or much more if possible.
For obvious reasons, I don't want to involve any Agents or Lawyers,
etc.
I want to be super crafty because my good friend is already well known
for his craftiness both on land and water.
Any ideas?
Many thanks
Probo
Roger Browne
May 15, 2009, 5:18:42 AM5/15/09
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> 'An Evening with Belle Elmore'
>
> With Popular Songs from the era of the Edwardian Music Hall, when
> Marie Lloyd strutted her stuff.
Wow, an evening with Belle Elmore is certainly a great premise, but it
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> With Popular Songs from the era of the Edwardian Music Hall, when
> Marie Lloyd strutted her stuff.
needs a little more than that for commercial success.
Last year I was given some free tickets to a variety show at the
Blackpool Grand Theatre. The show was superbly compered by Nicholas
Parsons. There was music, magic, comedy, acrobatics, dance etc, plus a
couple of striptease acts.
A hundred years ago it would have been standing room only, but it soon
became obvious why free tickets were being given out: no-one pays for
this kind of entertainment anymore.
But if the "Evening with Belle Elmore" starts with her "strutting her
stuff", mixes in some romance, then ends with her murder and a frisson
of unresolved mystery, you could have a real hit.
I seem to recall that you have previously authored a play, so I know
you can do it.
Regards,
Roger
Probo
May 15, 2009, 5:49:07 AM5/15/09
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Very many thanks, Roger
Funnily enough, I met Nicholas Parsons many years ago when he was
appearing in 'Charlie Girl' at London's Victoria Palace. He seemed a
very nice chap.
The show attracted me because it starred the lovely Cyd Charisse.
It also starred another Oldhamer, Dora Bryan, who now lives in Hove.
I've known Dora ever since I first came to Brighton in 1977. In fact,
on that occasion I stayed at her hotel on the Brighton sea front.
Many thanks for stirring up some old memories.
All the Best
Bryan
Funnily enough, I met Nicholas Parsons many years ago when he was
appearing in 'Charlie Girl' at London's Victoria Palace. He seemed a
very nice chap.
The show attracted me because it starred the lovely Cyd Charisse.
It also starred another Oldhamer, Dora Bryan, who now lives in Hove.
I've known Dora ever since I first came to Brighton in 1977. In fact,
on that occasion I stayed at her hotel on the Brighton sea front.
Many thanks for stirring up some old memories.
All the Best
Bryan
Roger Browne
May 15, 2009, 9:05:14 AM5/15/09
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This got me wondering whether anyone ever moves the other way.
A Google search for:
"live OR living in brighton OR hove" "born in oldham"
yields four results, but
"born in brighton OR hove" "live OR living in oldham"
yields none.
A Google search for:
"live OR living in brighton OR hove" "born in oldham"
yields four results, but
"born in brighton OR hove" "live OR living in oldham"
yields none.
Probo
May 15, 2009, 11:25:55 AM5/15/09
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I very much doubt it, Roger, based on my conversations with various
local residents in Brighton & Hove.
Everyody swears that they would never go back, wherever 'back' happens
to be.
It's a common topic: 'Where are you from then?'
Also, it has surprised me how many local residents have Irish
antecedants, like me.
My mother's grandparents both came from Cork.
I guess that they just popped out.
Bryan
local residents in Brighton & Hove.
Everyody swears that they would never go back, wherever 'back' happens
to be.
It's a common topic: 'Where are you from then?'
Also, it has surprised me how many local residents have Irish
antecedants, like me.
My mother's grandparents both came from Cork.
I guess that they just popped out.
Bryan
myoarin
May 16, 2009, 7:22:52 PM5/16/09
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Considering Roger's experience in Blackpool, I think you could talk
the person into letting you use the idea for nothing, since a
percentage of the profit looks like a long shot. He would then be
justified, of course, to insist that his name appear on the programme
and be mentioned at the beginning and end of the evening - with the
right to withdraw having his name used if he thought the show was a
flop/distasteful/.... Of course, free tickets to use the Queen's box
whenever she wasn't would be part of the deal.
the person into letting you use the idea for nothing, since a
percentage of the profit looks like a long shot. He would then be
justified, of course, to insist that his name appear on the programme
and be mentioned at the beginning and end of the evening - with the
right to withdraw having his name used if he thought the show was a
flop/distasteful/.... Of course, free tickets to use the Queen's box
whenever she wasn't would be part of the deal.
Probo
May 17, 2009, 1:32:48 AM5/17/09
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Great idea, Myoarin, many thanks.
In fact, I have a friend who has a box next to the Queen's at Covent
Garden and he is kind enough to allow me to use it from time to time.
I can tell you that I've never seen Queenie there (she evidently
prefers horses, etc.) so I reckon that she is even less likely to go
to Blackpool unless, of course, for a very special occasion such as
your own Elvis Tribute Act.
Can I persuade you to play the part of the Doctor?
Obviously, you can wear your black hairpiece, your trademark white
suit and strum your big guitar as though you were doing it for real.
Your singing would, of course, be pre-recorded.
Bryan
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In fact, I have a friend who has a box next to the Queen's at Covent
Garden and he is kind enough to allow me to use it from time to time.
I can tell you that I've never seen Queenie there (she evidently
prefers horses, etc.) so I reckon that she is even less likely to go
to Blackpool unless, of course, for a very special occasion such as
your own Elvis Tribute Act.
Can I persuade you to play the part of the Doctor?
Obviously, you can wear your black hairpiece, your trademark white
suit and strum your big guitar as though you were doing it for real.
Your singing would, of course, be pre-recorded.
Bryan
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myoarin
May 17, 2009, 5:14:05 AM5/17/09
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"Your singing would, of course, be pre-recorded. "
Recording and pre-recording were the downfall of Music Hall. A box
next to the Queen's would do very nicely.
I have it on good authority that the Queen was watching the Eurovision
Song Contest last night.
Unfortunately, she fell asleep and failed to call in her vote, but it
would have been offset by his voting for the Swedish singer.
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