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P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo  
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 More options Jul 16, 10:27 pm
From: "P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo" <tertsb...@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:27:26 -0600
Local: Wed, Jul 16 2008 10:27 pm
Subject: Battery died suddenly today
Hello Group!

I've not had much trouble with my PBG4 1.67MHz (non-SD) until today.  
I was at my desk with the PB plugged in as usual. I noticed that the  
battery menu icon showed and 'X'. Well! I unplugged and plugged in  
everything I could and got the PB to at least see that there is a  
battery installed, but this battery would not charge again (it was  
down to ZERO).

PMU reset and PRAM reset. Tried another battery and power adapter.  
Looks like the PB power board (or what ever it is called) is okay.  
Looks like my power adapter is alright as well.

The PB was powered on this battery two days ago and run down until  
the low power message came on. And then it was charged that night and  
was fine until today. No indication that the battery would fail! I  
had been getting about 2 to 2.5 hours on this battery and it had  
about 145 cycles on it. I can't recall, but I think this is a second  
battery I bought along with the PB in Feb. of 2005 (yes - out of  
AppleCare). The original installed battery was replaced through the  
Apple recall, so this might be that battery (though not likely).

Anyone else have such a sudden failure in their PB battery?

Thanks all!
Turtle-Bear


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MIKO's Support  
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 More options Jul 17, 12:20 am
From: MIKO's Support <miko.supp...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:20:42 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 12:20 am
Subject: Re: Battery died suddenly today
P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo wrote:
Hello Group!

Anyone else have such a sudden failure in their PB battery?

Thanks all!
Turtle-Bear
  
Sounds like you're just hoping for simpaticos, and I'm sure there ARE those, but you will save so much time and energy just getting the battery.  Let's say that you make $30 per hour at work.... if you spend even 2.5 hours trying to get something magical out of this situation, it will equal or exceed, in your per-hour-time, the cost of the battery.  But I say this as a consultant and my hours actually are counted. People who work for other people inherently feel that 4 hours of every 8 hour day are their personal "in-office vacation" hours and they think nothing of spending 3 hours on the Internet to solve a personal problem.  So I apologize if I'm wrong in suggesting that you try to save real money.

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P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo  
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 More options Jul 17, 10:21 am
From: "P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo" <tertsb...@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:21:06 -0600
Local: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 10:21 am
Subject: Re: Battery died suddenly today

On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:20 PM, MIKO's Support wrote:

Hon, I'm not suggesting I want to spend any time trying to resurrect  
the battery, it's just that I've never had a battery just "die" -  
usually it is a long poop-out. New battery will definitely be ordered  
soon.

Turtle-Bear


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Dan  
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 More options Jul 17, 10:54 am
From: Dan <dantear...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:54:36 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 10:54 am
Subject: Re: Battery died suddenly today
At 8:27 PM -0600 7/16/2008, P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo wrote:

>PBG4 1.67MHz (non-SD)

>battery menu icon showed and 'X'. [...] [swap out battery, adapter, etc]

Sounds like you've taken the appropriate steps to prove it's the
battery itself that failed.  I've had a few go suddenly.  Seems like
when they dip under that 20% point, the handwriting is on the wall...
Had one battery that, after a month of sitting idle, decided to come
back to life - went to holding a 2.5 hr charge.  But the others died
completely.

FWIW,
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth


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MIKO's Support  
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 More options Jul 17, 10:33 am
From: MIKO's Support <miko.supp...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:33:21 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 10:33 am
Subject: Re: Battery died suddenly today
P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo wrote:
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:20 PM, MIKO's Support wrote:

P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo wrote:
Hello Group!

Anyone else have such a sudden failure in their PB battery?

Thanks all!
Turtle-Bear
  
Sounds like you're just hoping for simpaticos, and I'm sure there ARE those, but you will save so much time and energy just getting the battery.  Let's say that you make $30 per hour at work.... if you spend even 2.5 hours trying to get something magical out of this situation, it will equal or exceed, in your per-hour-time, the cost of the battery.  But I say this as a consultant and my hours actually are counted. People who work for other people inherently feel that 4 hours of every 8 hour day are their personal "in-office vacation" hours and they think nothing of spending 3 hours on the Internet to solve a personal problem.  So I apologize if I'm wrong in suggesting that you try to save real money.

Hon, I'm not suggesting I want to spend any time trying to resurrect the battery, it's just that I've never had a battery just "die" - usually it is a long poop-out. New battery will definitely be ordered soon.

Turtle-Bear
Well in that case, YES.  Not MY battery.  But a client of mine had a battery "just die" on him TWICE.  He's like the Edgar Allan Poe of Macbooks. (Most of Poe's family died before their time supposedly)

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