udev-151 - alpha quality
Daniel Robbins
udev-151 is now in the tree - this ebuild is masked and has **not been
tested** (it is there for further testing and development.) If you
have a package.unmask entry for udev, make sure it does not apply to
the udev-151 unless you have a LiveCD handy and want to commit to
testing this.
-Daniel
Jean-Francis Roy
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shayes
inputclass to work :)
On 12 avr, 21:13, Jean-Francis Roy <jeanfrancis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Daniel! Unmasking udev-151 will help gnome-2.30 users not to run into
> missing dependency problems. I just installed it and let you know if I run
> into any problem.
>
> ~JF
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Daniel Robbins <drobb...@funtoo.org> wrote:
> > Hi All,
>
> > udev-151 is now in the tree - this ebuild is masked and has **not been
> > tested** (it is there for further testing and development.) If you
> > have a package.unmask entry for udev, make sure it does not apply to
> > the udev-151 unless you have a LiveCD handy and want to commit to
> > testing this.
>
> > -Daniel
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Ioannis Aslanidis
Do you know of any considerations before testing this version of udev?
It won't be the first time that the upgrade ends up breaking
something.
Regards.
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Daniel Robbins
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> Hello,
>
> Do you know of any considerations before testing this version of udev?
> It won't be the first time that the upgrade ends up breaking
> something.
>
> Regards.
Regarding any problems with the ebuild, I don't know as it needs
testing. No obvious failures.
If you are talking about things breaking due to new udev code, I am
not sure either. If anyone has any info, post here.
It does at least sound like some people are using it successfully? Is
this the case?
-Daniel
shayes
Jean-Francis Roy
d2_racing
freeze, but maybe it's related with Xorg-Server 1.8 :P
d2_racing
On 13 avr, 13:23, Jean-Francis Roy <jeanfrancis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Same here, working out of the box.
>
> ~JF
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:16 PM, shayes <nekoj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So far, nothing bad happens
>
> > > Regarding any problems with the ebuild, I don't know as it needs
> > > testing. No obvious failures.
>
> > > If you are talking about things breaking due to new udev code, I am
> > > not sure either. If anyone has any info, post here.
>
> > > It does at least sound like some people are using it successfully? Is
> > > this the case?
>
> > > -Daniel
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shayes
On 13 avr, 19:14, Daniel Robbins <drobb...@funtoo.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Ioannis Aslanidis
>
Boby Jacky
gentoo tree), no problem so far.
Bob
Daniel Robbins wrote :
Daniel Robbins
> I have been using it for about a month (imported in my local overlay from
> gentoo tree), no problem so far.
Note that the funtoo ebuild is quite different from the gentoo ebuild for udev.
-Daniel
Donald R. Gray Jr
nothing weird in dmesg.
On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Daniel Robbins <drob...@funtoo.org>
wrote:
> On Apr 13, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Boby Jacky wrote:
Víctor Orozco
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Guy Fontaine
I'm also on ~amd64 and it's working well.
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Tel
On Apr 14, 12:34 pm, Guy Fontaine <arami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> udev-151 has been bumped (if I can say so) to unstable branch of Gentoo
> Portage tree. It was available at time I eix-sync'ed my Gentoo box. It was
> so for xorg-server 1.8.0 at the same time.
>
> I added extras to USE flags of /etc/make.conf and performed the update
> (emerge --update --newuse --deep @world. All emerged successfully. There was
> a note to modify /etc/conf.d/xdm by adding NEEDS_HALD set either to no or
> yes or auto as the case may be. I did not modify that file.
>
> I only recompiled xf86 drivers (input-evdev, input-mouse, input-keyboard,
> input-synaptics, video-intel and video-vesa). Restarting the system worked
> fine.
>
> I'm now running my Gentoo unstable (amd64) box with xorg-server-1.8.0.
>
> Guy Fontaine (aramis_qc)
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> 2010/4/14 Víctor Orozco <caballerodelme...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> > I'm also on ~amd64 and it's working well.
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Guy Fontaine
Does this mean hal can be unmerged at this point?
Uwe
> Does this mean hal can be unmerged at this point?
If you've got no other packages that depend on it, I don't see any
problems in unmerging hal
equery d sys-apps/hal
If there's a package in need of hal (no USE-flag, hardcoded dep), then
you shouldn't unmerge it right now and wait, what future versions will
bring.
If it's just something like vlc, disable the USE-flag and reemerge the
package.
I'm running both my laptop (xmonad) and my media-server (icewm)
without hal for a few weeks now and didn't experience any problems so
far.
I never liked the idea of something being automounted on one of my
systems, so I never needed hal for that sort of thing (only had it
installed because it was decided by the xorg-devs to outsource those
input device to one package [<3 evdev <3])
On Apr 14, 9:34 pm, Guy Fontaine <arami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There was a note to modify /etc/conf.d/xdm by adding NEEDS_HALD set either
> to no or > yes or auto as the case may be. I did not modify that file.
>
> I only recompiled xf86 drivers (input-evdev, input-mouse, input-keyboard,
> input-synaptics, video-intel and video-vesa). Restarting the system worked
> fine.
NEEDS_HALD is dropped in x11-apps/xinit-1.2.1-r1
(Besides: xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse are not needed,
when you're using evdev ;o)
Guy Fontaine
NEEDS_HALD is dropped in x11-apps/xinit-1.2.1-r1
(Besides: xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse are not needed,
when you're using evdev ;o)
Uwe
> xfce-base/thunar, xfce-base/exo, media-gfx/gimp have hal as one of their
> other hand hal is a dependency (equery d) of media-gfx/gimp, xfce-base/exo,
> xfce-base/thunar and xfce-extra/thunar-volman. Removing hal will lead to
> some problems until gimp and Xfce desktop (xfce4-session, Thunar and some
> other apps) only relate to evdev.
>
> Am I right or wrong ?
>
> Guy Fontaine
input devices and therefore has nothing to do with the features hal
has delivered. ;]
Thunar and exo needed hal only for its volume monitoring features [1],
xfce4-session has used hal for shutting down, rebooting, suspending
and hibernating [2].
Those are/were being recoded and, as far as I understand that roadmap,
aren't depending on hal anymore in Xfce-4.8. (If you're using
something like pm-suspend or pm-hibernate and/or if you're using a
sudo variant for shutting down you're computer, Xfce-4.6 doesn't even
need hal anymore [3-5], except for volume monitoring features. [blerg,
who uses a GUI for checking the status of (external) devices? :x])
As you can see in the blog post written by the Xfce release manager
[6], he uses
>>a mixture of Xfce 4.6 packages and development packages from the upcoming 4.8 series and the new components have proven to be very stable already.
If I understand it correctly gimp uses libhal just for fancy input
devices (graphics tablet and such, when they are plugged in after Gimp
has been started), and, when GTK+ uses XI2, which shouldn't be too far
in the future [7-9], there is no need for hal-support in gimp. So if
you're not using one of those you can set -hal for gimp. :]
[1] http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.8/roadmap/thunar
[2] http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.8/roadmap/xfce4-session
[3] http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5973
[4] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils#User_Permission_Method
[5] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Allow_users_to_shutdown
[6] http://blog.xfce.org/2010/01/26/
[7] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592364
[8] http://live.gnome.org/GTK%2B/MPX
[9] http://live.gnome.org/GTK+/Roadmap
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