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Ron Avery

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Jan 31, 2012, 11:41:52 AM1/31/12
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I still have a very nice RCIB-645 ready for sale sitting on the floor in the entry to my home. It is a double oven 40 inch wide Frigidaire Flair Custom Imperial without a lower cabinet. These can be installed as a free standing item like a refrigerator. The outer shell is brown. I just took it out and replaced it with a new Frigidaire.
Everything works on it except one switch for the large oven. The element was checked and it still works but the repair man did not have a switch to replace it. Also the sensor does not work on the Heat-Minder element on the cook top. The element heats alright, but it just does not read and maintain the particular temperature of the pan placed upon it.
Even the clock works! However my wife, who cooks well and often, says she has never tried to use the Cook Master Controls.
It is now removed from our kitchen and sitting on a dolly. I love this thing and it really looked great in our kitchen. But it is either going to the dump or on a truck to someone who wants it.
Sincerely,
Ron Avery
830-372-5534 in Seguin, Texas 25 miles east of San Antonio on Interstate 10. Will sell for price of shipment.
 
 
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Rebecca Dean

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Jan 31, 2012, 1:28:34 PM1/31/12
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Ok I had the thermstat  switch  replaced with one  I got from lead from mark M.  Unfortunately  did  not fix   problem with oven staying on   even when switch  off  help any  thoughts?  The guy  who  replaced says he thinks I need whole board  that switch  mounts on.  What is that?  Dos it sound right?  Where do I get it. I would rather not  have to get new oven  but  getting worried
Any ideas
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Rebecca Dean

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Feb 24, 2012, 3:32:21 PM2/24/12
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Ok oven continues to be on  even though switch is off. Found place I can gettwo relays for back of oven  but if I'm getting these is there any  thing else I should replace wile oven is out?  
Anyother  suggestion as to what problem  may be


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Lanny Mong

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Feb 24, 2012, 5:45:51 PM2/24/12
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Has to be a bad switch; Otherwise,when you turn the switch to off, there would be no power to oven.

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Ok oven continues to be on  even though switch is off. Found place I can gettwo relays for back of oven  but if I'm getting these is there any  thing else I should replace wile oven is out?  
Anyother  suggestion as to what problem  may be

Rebecca



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Rebecca Dean

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Feb 24, 2012, 7:22:07 PM2/24/12
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We  replaced thermostat switch & some type of mech near switch but no change.  


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Dave

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Feb 24, 2012, 6:57:34 PM2/24/12
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   I think your right Lanny,  or else someone wired the thermostat wrong. If the oven worked ok and one day it decided to heat all the time, yes it would most likely be a oven t'stat. It can be checked. Unplug range, check continuity between incoming power to thermostat and out going to oven element. Should have it when t'stat is turned on and should lose continuity when t'stat is turned to off posistion. This might require removing wires from t'stat to isolate the connections that you are checking. If your not familiar with this I would highly recomend someone that is qualified to do it. If you still have your old t'stat that could checked also to see if it is good or bad. Continuity in on position, no continuity in off position. I used to work on these in the late 70s early 80s.  Hope this helps ya out.

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Thomas Nichols

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Feb 24, 2012, 7:38:38 PM2/24/12
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Rebecca

I am very concerned about your questions. I thought that you were in contact with Mark M. and that everything was solved. What happened?

 I am going out on a limb, and sometimes when I do I get some flack, but I find it difficult to stand by and let people go by the way side, when we have
so many people out there that know how to work on these things, and just stand by and say nothing. I am still a novice, but I try to help as much I can, and sometimes 
I come up short, but at least I am
trying.

Okay, now, if I remember this is a RCI 645, Which means a dual oven custom imperial. Then this has the cookmaster clock device. 
Are you having problems with the large oven or the small oven?  If it is the large oven, and it stays on and will not turn off, then go to the cookmaster dial where
you set the hours to cook. It shows manual, which means the oven will come on, if you switch the cookmaster to off, it should shut down your large oven, if it does not
shut down your large oven, then we know its the switch, if it shuts it down, then we know there is an open circuit at the cookmaster keeping the oven on, and so you would
have to replace the clock and cookmaster switches, and many of us have used working units.

So is there anyone else who can add to this,  that my help Rebecca?

Thank you

Tom Nichols
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Brian Fitzgerald

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Feb 27, 2012, 9:49:55 PM2/27/12
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Hi All: I have not yet worked on the oven controls and am therefore a
bit of a novice on this part of the appliance. That said, if the oven
thermostat is turned to the off position I suspect a couple of
problems as follows:
1. The oven thermostat contacts are fused and are not opening and
closing when switched to the off position. This would suggest a need
to replace the thermostat. Fusing of contacts can happen during a
momentary short circuit if the fuse fails to blow in time.
2. Someone has tampered with the wiring and wires are not connected
to the correct terminals.

The spade connections of the heating element are uncomfortably close
to the ceramic insulator at the back of the oven. This insulator is
not really an insulator at all as I have found that even incidental
contact of the bare spades with the insulator causes a short circuit.
Such a short can fuse the contacts in the switch.

I had a recent problem with a pot heating element with a short circuit
which blew the switch control before the fuse popped. The switch
would no longer provide power to the element, but the indicator light
was now on all the time.

In either case I would get a manual with the electrical schematics for
these controls and start checking wires one at a time with a
voltmeter.

Brian

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rebecca dean

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Feb 27, 2012, 9:52:38 PM2/27/12
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Thomas,
thankk you for the help.  I am in contactt witht Mark Michaels re part #s etc and he is a big help but since he doesn't do repairs and does parts I also wanted to check and see if any more suggestions.  we replaced thermostat switch, did not fix issue. we then replaced some type of mechanism that the switch sits and connnects to   - did not work.  we are nowo ready to order the relays in back of oven but people say that if swich is off then should be no power tot relays thus they should not be the problem. my initial problem was the large oven was off by about 150 degrees where I would set it to 450 if I wanted 300 but then it  started not going off at all. so the contractor guy who is doing the work turned off my breaker to oven and stove..   if I am doing the relays then will that work or is there  something else I should replace when we have stove out.
as to cook master dial - the clock has been out for some time long beffore this problem started so I don't think tha is issue. I will look at having clock rebuilt with the place steve mentioned but again how much money do I keep putting into this? but this is a built in so I would have to remodel whole kitchen if I can'tt save this.
 
Rebecca

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rebecca dean

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Feb 27, 2012, 10:07:03 PM2/27/12
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I had a contractor do the work I will ask him to check. I wander if maybe he wired it wrong some how. the large oven has always been off about 100 degrees and has been getting worse and then this staying on. when I say off about 100 degrees - I would set to 450 if I wanted to bake at 300. I am printing all of these emails and suggestions and will have the contractor check these
 
thanks everyone
 
Rebecca

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Feb 27, 2012, 10:17:49 PM2/27/12
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Feb 27, 2012, 10:38:44 PM2/27/12
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Tom, you rock!
Thanks for trying to help her out.
I have an early day tomorrow.
Have a great night to all.
 
 
In a message dated 2/27/2012 8:19:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, thos.n...@att.net writes:
Rebecca

I am very concerned about your questions. I thought that you were in contact with Mark M. and that everything was solved. What happened?

 I am going out on a limb, and sometimes when I do I get some flack, but I find it difficult to stand by and let people go by the way side, when we have
so many people out there that know how to work on these things, and just stand by and say nothing. I am still a novice, but I try to help as much I can, and sometimes 
I come up short, but at least I am
trying.

Okay, now, if I remember this is a RCI 645, Which means a dual oven custom imperial. Then this has the cookmaster clock device. 
Are you having problems with the large oven or the small oven?  If it is the large oven, and it stays on and will not turn off, then go to the cookmaster dial where
you set the hours to cook. It shows manual, which means the oven will come on, if you switch the cookmaster to off, it should shut down your large oven, if it does not
shut down your large oven, then we know its the switch, if it shuts it down, then we know there is an open circuit at the cookmaster keeping the oven on, and so you would
have to replace the clock and cookmaster switches, and many of us have used working units.

So is there anyone else who can add to this,  that my help Rebecca?

Thank you

Tom Nichols
LA TOM
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