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bowerygirl
Jun 30, 2009, 11:08:50 PM6/30/09
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Hey everyone~
so its only about a week n change b4 i begin my "adventure" to tkb. i
have been in a kinda denial mode since ive had soo much to do b4 i am
to leave, so its been pretty easy to block it out.Now its so close its
pretty hard to avoid but im packin upthe old apt n thats keepin me
mind quite busy and will up until 2 days b4 i officially take off.
i want to thank u all for respoding to me questions and last minute
rambles. I must admit i am starting to get scared, after all this has
been me life for half me life..but make no mistake...I AM READY.Ron,
thank u especially for the answers and offer for the visa form. i did
just what u suggested and i got it no problem.
I went about toa few different docs ovr here but unfortunately none of
them were of any help for me request to help me get from point A to B.
wanted to do everything strait up wth no reason to have any more on me
mind then my own personal baggage but im just goin tosay i will do
what i have to do to get over there feeling reasonably comfortable but
no more. I am saddened to say that out of the five docs i went to an
explained me predicament, only one actually wished me well n was
genuinaly interested in how i end up and wants me to let him know so
that he can possibly reccomend it as an alternative to whats currently
available in the states now for addicts, specifically opiates. i think
the majority just didnt quite understand cuz i cant imagine why else
they would have told me i was making a mistakegoing intoan unknown
foreign place that sounded like more of an old torture chamber.i know
ive yet to be a part of thetkb experience but i kinda took offence to
some of the comments that were made..i guess its just that ive been
floating around here for almost 2 years so i feel a bit attached to
theplace, be it all of you or just me determination to do this n this
unexplainable "calling"or "pull" to that being the rite place for me.
This i have no doubt. Im sure its not for everyone but i am happy to
say eventhough the one doc wouldnt give me a small script to get ovr
legally, he was so very interested n impressed that i gave him the
website and he looked into it and later on called me and asked me to
please let him know how i was afterwards. he is one ofthe few
outspoken docs that is againstmethadone as an answer to treatment, so
hes always on the lookout for alternatives. hes a prominent doc in the
area so im pleased that at least one has taken an interest and saw it
for what it is..treatment..and an alternative to the typical
referrals.
Anyway, ive been saving and hopefully by the time im ready togo i
should have about 4 or 500$ to go off with.i am hopin that will be
enuff for me to get thru without havin to worry,yesi do smoken i also
wanted to leave what i could as a donation. so STU i am thankful for
the news about the smokes cuz i wasnt sure exactly what to do wththat
but being cartons are upto 57-75$ a carton here in NY i was counting
on buying the majority in arrival bangkok,hopin to save a few dollars.
ive been told there are quite a few foreigners over there now so it
seems i mite not be alone afterall.truthfully i never cared much one
way or another who else was there.i am going to work on me and i hate
to say it but im not the most pleasant person when im sick. what i was
reminded of was that after a few days anyone would no matter how anti
social u maythink u are..other people will be ur saving grace in
moments u dont think about.So i suppose whoever and however it is when
i get there i imagine it will be the way it should be for me
personally.No im not much of a believer in anything but i do
feel,especially lately that things happen for a reason...just theway
the last few months have been it just seems like signs or plans that
didnt go as planned actually seems like it all worked out the way it
was supposed to, not exactly how i wanted. i think thats a great thing
cause in the past everytime i did it the way I wanted...lets just say
it wasnt really the rite way. so after getting out of me own way and
actually asking for help, one of me hardest things to do everything
just fell into place and i am excited and thankful for this chance
once again.scared yes as it gets closer but feeling pretty good
overall still. i dont know, i just have this feeling that as difficult
it willbe at times im going to be okay. its a great feeling to feel
positive. definately something im not used to.
SO thanxs everyone for helpinme wth the questions, just incase i have
another brain freeze i may be back with some last minute panic advice!
lols take care everyone!~ bowerygirl
so its only about a week n change b4 i begin my "adventure" to tkb. i
have been in a kinda denial mode since ive had soo much to do b4 i am
to leave, so its been pretty easy to block it out.Now its so close its
pretty hard to avoid but im packin upthe old apt n thats keepin me
mind quite busy and will up until 2 days b4 i officially take off.
i want to thank u all for respoding to me questions and last minute
rambles. I must admit i am starting to get scared, after all this has
been me life for half me life..but make no mistake...I AM READY.Ron,
thank u especially for the answers and offer for the visa form. i did
just what u suggested and i got it no problem.
I went about toa few different docs ovr here but unfortunately none of
them were of any help for me request to help me get from point A to B.
wanted to do everything strait up wth no reason to have any more on me
mind then my own personal baggage but im just goin tosay i will do
what i have to do to get over there feeling reasonably comfortable but
no more. I am saddened to say that out of the five docs i went to an
explained me predicament, only one actually wished me well n was
genuinaly interested in how i end up and wants me to let him know so
that he can possibly reccomend it as an alternative to whats currently
available in the states now for addicts, specifically opiates. i think
the majority just didnt quite understand cuz i cant imagine why else
they would have told me i was making a mistakegoing intoan unknown
foreign place that sounded like more of an old torture chamber.i know
ive yet to be a part of thetkb experience but i kinda took offence to
some of the comments that were made..i guess its just that ive been
floating around here for almost 2 years so i feel a bit attached to
theplace, be it all of you or just me determination to do this n this
unexplainable "calling"or "pull" to that being the rite place for me.
This i have no doubt. Im sure its not for everyone but i am happy to
say eventhough the one doc wouldnt give me a small script to get ovr
legally, he was so very interested n impressed that i gave him the
website and he looked into it and later on called me and asked me to
please let him know how i was afterwards. he is one ofthe few
outspoken docs that is againstmethadone as an answer to treatment, so
hes always on the lookout for alternatives. hes a prominent doc in the
area so im pleased that at least one has taken an interest and saw it
for what it is..treatment..and an alternative to the typical
referrals.
Anyway, ive been saving and hopefully by the time im ready togo i
should have about 4 or 500$ to go off with.i am hopin that will be
enuff for me to get thru without havin to worry,yesi do smoken i also
wanted to leave what i could as a donation. so STU i am thankful for
the news about the smokes cuz i wasnt sure exactly what to do wththat
but being cartons are upto 57-75$ a carton here in NY i was counting
on buying the majority in arrival bangkok,hopin to save a few dollars.
ive been told there are quite a few foreigners over there now so it
seems i mite not be alone afterall.truthfully i never cared much one
way or another who else was there.i am going to work on me and i hate
to say it but im not the most pleasant person when im sick. what i was
reminded of was that after a few days anyone would no matter how anti
social u maythink u are..other people will be ur saving grace in
moments u dont think about.So i suppose whoever and however it is when
i get there i imagine it will be the way it should be for me
personally.No im not much of a believer in anything but i do
feel,especially lately that things happen for a reason...just theway
the last few months have been it just seems like signs or plans that
didnt go as planned actually seems like it all worked out the way it
was supposed to, not exactly how i wanted. i think thats a great thing
cause in the past everytime i did it the way I wanted...lets just say
it wasnt really the rite way. so after getting out of me own way and
actually asking for help, one of me hardest things to do everything
just fell into place and i am excited and thankful for this chance
once again.scared yes as it gets closer but feeling pretty good
overall still. i dont know, i just have this feeling that as difficult
it willbe at times im going to be okay. its a great feeling to feel
positive. definately something im not used to.
SO thanxs everyone for helpinme wth the questions, just incase i have
another brain freeze i may be back with some last minute panic advice!
lols take care everyone!~ bowerygirl
stuart
Jul 1, 2009, 3:55:44 AM7/1/09
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Hey Bowerygirl...
Right place right time!! Phra Hans once told
me people arrive at Thamkrabok on the day they are meant to get there,
not a day sooner or a day later. When i too get out of the way things
seem to have a knack of falling into place. For me if i can see the
bigger picture then i can go with the flow! just as i write those
words a feeling of calm and contentment rises within me! It is
exhausting going against the current. I heard somewhere that you get
what you need and not what you want although for me when i get what i
need it tends to be just what i wanted, i just had to wait a wee
while. Any way all the best to you, this was and is the best thing i
have ever done. take care.
Stuart
Right place right time!! Phra Hans once told
me people arrive at Thamkrabok on the day they are meant to get there,
not a day sooner or a day later. When i too get out of the way things
seem to have a knack of falling into place. For me if i can see the
bigger picture then i can go with the flow! just as i write those
words a feeling of calm and contentment rises within me! It is
exhausting going against the current. I heard somewhere that you get
what you need and not what you want although for me when i get what i
need it tends to be just what i wanted, i just had to wait a wee
while. Any way all the best to you, this was and is the best thing i
have ever done. take care.
Stuart
Audrey Ward
Jul 1, 2009, 7:20:59 AM7/1/09
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Hi Bowerygirl. I am back from Thamkrabok. 1 year. So one year clean,
wiser and definitely looking at the world in a better way. I just have a
second so I want to say well done and how brave you are. I to have had the
same experience with doctors. Feic them. Its you that matters and how you
feel not there opinion. We know it's a great place and Stuart is right. It
is your time. Good luck girl and say hi to Mae Shee Rambhais for me. Xxxxx
We all look forward to your return and will be here to help and support you
through that.
Audrey Delaney
44 The Drumlins
Virginia
Co Cavan
Ireland
wiser and definitely looking at the world in a better way. I just have a
second so I want to say well done and how brave you are. I to have had the
same experience with doctors. Feic them. Its you that matters and how you
feel not there opinion. We know it's a great place and Stuart is right. It
is your time. Good luck girl and say hi to Mae Shee Rambhais for me. Xxxxx
We all look forward to your return and will be here to help and support you
through that.
Audrey Delaney
44 The Drumlins
Virginia
Co Cavan
Ireland
John Cox
Jul 1, 2009, 7:32:55 AM7/1/09
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Good luck BG, see you on the otherside :-)
coxy
From: bowerygirl <mizfit...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009 13:08:50
Subject: [FOTM:1946] the countdown begins....
metalface from kent
Jul 2, 2009, 6:41:23 PM7/2/09
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Yes Bowery!! We'll ALL be waiting for you on the 'other side'.Its been
a 'mad day' with Phra Hans' 'passing' and I only just noticed your
post.I'll e-mail you before you go.Best Wishes (as always).mfk
On Jul 1, 12:32 pm, John Cox <johncox2...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Good luck BG, see you on the otherside :-)
> coxy
>
> ________________________________
> From: bowerygirl <mizfits4l...@gmail.com>
a 'mad day' with Phra Hans' 'passing' and I only just noticed your
post.I'll e-mail you before you go.Best Wishes (as always).mfk
On Jul 1, 12:32 pm, John Cox <johncox2...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Good luck BG, see you on the otherside :-)
> coxy
>
> ________________________________
brianw
Jul 9, 2009, 7:03:25 AM7/9/09
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hi bowerygirl
goodluck on your adventure, im two days home from thamkrabok after 3
and a half wk stint and it is the best thing i've done for myself. i
came off methadone and heroin(not that it matters) but i just could'nt
stop using at home and at thamkrabok with the support of everyone else
going through the same shite helps alot.im sure you've looked at the
list of stuff to bring with you.make sure you bring a nice soft pillow
and one thing i missed when i was there was my ipod(as i sold it the
week b4 for a gram).bring everything on the list.i dont really have
alot more advice other what it already says on the website.feel free
to contact me if you have any questions, best of luck on your journey,
let us know how you get on
goodluck on your adventure, im two days home from thamkrabok after 3
and a half wk stint and it is the best thing i've done for myself. i
came off methadone and heroin(not that it matters) but i just could'nt
stop using at home and at thamkrabok with the support of everyone else
going through the same shite helps alot.im sure you've looked at the
list of stuff to bring with you.make sure you bring a nice soft pillow
and one thing i missed when i was there was my ipod(as i sold it the
week b4 for a gram).bring everything on the list.i dont really have
alot more advice other what it already says on the website.feel free
to contact me if you have any questions, best of luck on your journey,
let us know how you get on
stuart
Jul 9, 2009, 7:59:41 AM7/9/09
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Hey Brian...
Welcome to the forum...and well done! I know you say
it doesn't matter what you were coming off. Although i think it is
good for people to know, especially if someone is considering going to
Thamkrabok and are using the same substances as others who have done
this detox. It is only as time has went by that i tend to think that
way as well..oh what i was coming off does not really matter! Well it
may be of some good for others to know. Anyway well done once
again...there are a few people on here who know what completing this
detox feels like! Keep in touch and you can keep on asking questions
as well. Take care.
Stuart
Welcome to the forum...and well done! I know you say
it doesn't matter what you were coming off. Although i think it is
good for people to know, especially if someone is considering going to
Thamkrabok and are using the same substances as others who have done
this detox. It is only as time has went by that i tend to think that
way as well..oh what i was coming off does not really matter! Well it
may be of some good for others to know. Anyway well done once
again...there are a few people on here who know what completing this
detox feels like! Keep in touch and you can keep on asking questions
as well. Take care.
Stuart
John Cox
Jul 9, 2009, 8:22:40 AM7/9/09
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Nice one B, well done on going through it. I'm about 18 months out, the first year was hard mate. I was on meth, brown, white and pills off the doctor and had been using since I was 12. I'm 32 now, I regreat loads but I've got lots to look forward to and my life now is amazing.
The hardest part starts now for you man, you not alone, this group helps, I can assure you it's worth the pain.
Coxy
Sent from my iPod
Audrey Ward
Jul 9, 2009, 1:55:05 PM7/9/09
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Brian that’s so nice, you only back and are so positive and supporting
others. You have such a good soul. Did someone put up on this forum NICE
PEOPLE ONLY ALLOWED JOIN. Cause it’s a board of love.
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brianw
Jul 10, 2009, 3:31:33 AM7/10/09
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nice one mate, its tough being back alright,yea i've been using about
same time as yourself,im 31 now so yea i,ve almost 20yrs of lockd away
emotions to deal with,i started a support group lastnight here in
dublin to deal with all the dark times,scary shit but it has to be
done, thanks for the msge,
keep safe mate. brian
On Jul 9, 1:22 pm, John Cox <johncox2...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Nice one B, well done on going through it. I'm about 18 months out, the first year was hard mate. I was on meth, brown, white and pills off the doctor and had been using since I was 12. I'm 32 now, I regreat loads but I've got lots to look forward to and my life now is amazing.
> The hardest part starts now for you man, you not alone, this group helps, I can assure you it's worth the pain.
> Coxy
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
same time as yourself,im 31 now so yea i,ve almost 20yrs of lockd away
emotions to deal with,i started a support group lastnight here in
dublin to deal with all the dark times,scary shit but it has to be
done, thanks for the msge,
keep safe mate. brian
On Jul 9, 1:22 pm, John Cox <johncox2...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Nice one B, well done on going through it. I'm about 18 months out, the first year was hard mate. I was on meth, brown, white and pills off the doctor and had been using since I was 12. I'm 32 now, I regreat loads but I've got lots to look forward to and my life now is amazing.
> The hardest part starts now for you man, you not alone, this group helps, I can assure you it's worth the pain.
> Coxy
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
Audrey Ward
Jul 10, 2009, 4:30:20 AM7/10/09
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Brian
Let me know about the support group. Etc. there will be more coming home
from Thamkrabok to Ireland and its so important they connect with others.
But congratulations on taking the initiative
and being so generous hearted.
Your new friend and warrior as you call me
Audrey
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Let me know about the support group. Etc. there will be more coming home
from Thamkrabok to Ireland and its so important they connect with others.
But congratulations on taking the initiative
and being so generous hearted.
Your new friend and warrior as you call me
Audrey
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John Cox
Jul 10, 2009, 5:43:56 AM7/10/09
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I met Gary when he was there with my mate who's from Dublin, my step sister is irish and my house mates from london are irish to, also my best mate out here is irish lol but I'm english and live in oz since tham krabok, it made stay clean allot easier as I know so many shotters in England but none here.
I shouldn't give advice as the world seems top heavey with it but don't run away with your self, its the dull times and the painful times that count, it takes ages but have faith, but only in your self coz then you wont be let down.
Coxy
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Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 17:31:33
Subject: [FOTM:2013] Re: the countdown begins....
brian whelan
Jul 10, 2009, 7:15:06 AM7/10/09
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yea the group went well last night,abit scary but good.yea im so glad i arranged it before headin out to thailand,there is 2 or 3 places left in the group on thursday if you know anyone who would need the support,(its mainly based on you dealing with all the emotions locked away for so long and coming out the other end liking and loving yourself,plus how to deal with any of lifes problems without taking drink or drugs etc etc..
have a nice wkend,chat soon
brian
have a nice wkend,chat soon
brian
ian ireland
Jul 10, 2009, 10:11:08 AM7/10/09
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nice one brian.
glad u findin the return ok n u feelin ok.
ill catch u on the flpside. keep the head down over there. ill catch
up with ya wh i check bk into dubz.
over n out.
IAN
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ill catch u on the flpside. keep the head down over there. ill catch
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Tommy
Jul 11, 2009, 9:17:23 PM7/11/09
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2009/7/9 brianw <brian...@hotmail.com>:
>
> hi bowerygirl
> goodluck on your adventure, im two days home from thamkrabok after 3
> and a half wk stint and it is the best thing i've done for myself. i
> came off methadone and heroin(not that it matters) but i just could'nt
> stop using at home and at thamkrabok with the support of everyone else
> going through the same shite helps alot.im sure you've looked at the
> list of stuff to bring with you.make sure you bring a nice soft pillow
> and one thing i missed when i was there was my ipod(as i sold it the
> week b4 for a gram).bring everything on the list.i dont really have
> alot more advice other what it already says on the website.feel free
> to contact me if you have any questions, best of luck on your journey,
> let us know how you get on
>
> hi bowerygirl
> goodluck on your adventure, im two days home from thamkrabok after 3
> and a half wk stint and it is the best thing i've done for myself. i
> came off methadone and heroin(not that it matters) but i just could'nt
> stop using at home and at thamkrabok with the support of everyone else
> going through the same shite helps alot.im sure you've looked at the
> list of stuff to bring with you.make sure you bring a nice soft pillow
> and one thing i missed when i was there was my ipod(as i sold it the
> week b4 for a gram).bring everything on the list.i dont really have
> alot more advice other what it already says on the website.feel free
> to contact me if you have any questions, best of luck on your journey,
> let us know how you get on
Brian, what area do you live in please.
I'm in Dub 24. I can arrange some extra help to get you through the
rough patches if your'e inclined
Get me at 087 2761841 - or ring the office and tell them Tommy K sent
you. I'm on a couple of weeks hols at the moment. Catching up on the
house decorating and odd jobbing for some long overdue maintenance :-)
I usually turn off the fone about midnight so don't hesitate to call
me. PS I have 400 mins a month so, if you call me, than hang up so's
I can call you back :)
Cheers
Tommy
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