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psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 3:51:14 AM4/13/01
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Sorry for the OT post, but I know there will be a few in here
that will like this! I did not write it, I just got sent it!

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FOOT-AND-MOUTH BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS
UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT
OUTLOOK EXPRESS. Researchers Shocked to Finally
Find Virus That Email App Doesn't Like

Scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Symantec's
AntiVirus Research Center today confirmed that
foot-and-mouth disease cannot be spread by Microsoft's
Outlook Express email application, believed to be the first time
the program has ever failed to propagate a major virus.

"Frankly, we've never heard of a virus that couldn't spread
through Microsoft Outlook Express, so our findings were, to
say the least, unexpected," said Clive Sarnow, director of the
CDC's infectious disease unit.

The study was immediately hailed by British officials, who
said it will save millions of pounds and thousands of man hours.
"Up until now we have, quite naturally, assumed that both
foot-and-mouth and mad cow were spread by Microsoft
Outlook Express," said Nick Brown, Britain's Agriculture
Minister. "By eliminating it, we can focus our resources
elsewhere."

However, researchers in the Netherlands, where
foot-and-mouth has recently appeared, said they are not
yet prepared to disqualify Outlook Express, which has been the
progenitor of viruses such as "I Love You," "Bubbleboy,"
"Anna Kournikova," and "Naked Wife," to name but a few.

Said Nils Overmars, director of the Molecular Virology Lab
at Leiden University: "It's not that we don't trust the research,
it's just that as scientists, we are trained to be skeptical of
any finding that flies in the face of established truth. And this
one flies in the face like a blind drunk sparrow."

Executives at Microsoft, meanwhile, were equally skeptical,
insisting that Outlook Express's patented Virus Transfer
Protocol (VTP) has proven virtually pervious to any virus.
The company, however, will issue a free VTP patch if it
turns out the application is not vulnerable to foot-and-mouth.

Such an admission would be embarrassing for the software
giant, but Symantec virologist Ariel Kologne insisted that
no one is more humiliated by the study than she is. "Only
last week, I had a reporter ask if the foot-and-mouth
virus spreads through Microsoft Outlook Express, and I
told him, 'Doesn't everything?'" she recalled. "Who would've
thought?"

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Mik

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Apr 13, 2001, 4:39:38 AM4/13/01
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In a previous article , psyonicdreams <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote

>Sorry for the OT post,

It was an accident was it ?

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John Ryan

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Apr 13, 2001, 5:16:35 AM4/13/01
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:51:14 +0100, "psyonicdreams"
<psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Sorry for the OT post, but I know there will be a few in here
>that will like this! I did not write it, I just got sent it!
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>
>FOOT-AND-MOUTH BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS
>UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT
>OUTLOOK EXPRESS. Researchers Shocked to Finally
>Find Virus That Email App Doesn't Like

he! he! he! ;-)

Had a virus attack yesterday, so this comes as a nice reminder of OE's
capabilities, if I had still got OE, I would probably be doing a nice
clean up operation this morning, as it is Eudora just grinned and
didn't open it automatically as OE would have done. Also a feature
which I quite like now, which at first thought looked to be some sort
of silly gimmick, is its Red Hot Chilli Pepper warning system for bad
language ;-)
Had to laugh yesterday, when a friend of mine whom I consider as a non
swearer, got 3 Red Hot Chilli Peppers for his use of the word Bullshit
in a message. Perhaps I should ask him to exchange to Pedt's famous
Bovine Fodder term instead ;-)

John Ryan
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psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 5:42:53 AM4/13/01
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John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> he! he! he! ;-)
>
> Had a virus attack yesterday, so this comes as a nice reminder of OE's
> capabilities, if I had still got OE, I would probably be doing a nice
> clean up operation this morning, as it is Eudora just grinned and
> didn't open it automatically as OE would have done. Also a feature
> which I quite like now, which at first thought looked to be some sort
> of silly gimmick, is its Red Hot Chilli Pepper warning system for bad
> language ;-)
> Had to laugh yesterday, when a friend of mine whom I consider as a non
> swearer, got 3 Red Hot Chilli Peppers for his use of the word Bullshit
> in a message. Perhaps I should ask him to exchange to Pedt's famous
> Bovine Fodder term instead ;-)
>
> John Ryan

I have to confess I DO still use OE, I suppose I am so used to
how bad it is, I am scared to change! lol. I like the sound of that
warning system, might have to get it just to try that!

Richard H Huelin

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Apr 13, 2001, 5:50:36 AM4/13/01
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"psyonicdreams" <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry for the OT post, but I know there will be a few in here
> that will like this! I did not write it, I just got sent it!

You should be on the radio, then we could turn it off.

John Ryan

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Apr 13, 2001, 5:56:28 AM4/13/01
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:42:53 +0100, "psyonicdreams"
<psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:3ad6c124...@news.freeserve.net...
>> he! he! he! ;-)
>>
>> Had a virus attack yesterday, so this comes as a nice reminder of OE's
>> capabilities, if I had still got OE, I would probably be doing a nice

<snip>

>I have to confess I DO still use OE, I suppose I am so used to
>how bad it is, I am scared to change! lol. I like the sound of that
>warning system, might have to get it just to try that!

Interestingly enough, its amazing how many are switching from OE, as
can be witnessed from the Eudora NG.
The initial changeover was a little daunting, but like yourself Dean
it was probably more to do with how used to OE I had got, and a case
of continuing to accept the unacceptable. But now I am certainly glad
I made the move as Eudora allows me to work on without the hindrances
that OE gave me. With OE I had to put in place a system that should be
there anyway, but isn't and on occasion that human system failed me,
as I don't always have eyes in the back of my head ;-)

Pedt

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:07:15 AM4/13/01
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John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> said the following:

>On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:51:14 +0100, "psyonicdreams"
><psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>Sorry

No you weren't as you carried on regardless Psyonic. Whilst there is a
case for OT posts at times I doubt this was one of them considering how
much this has been posted to assorted groups/emailed etc. 87 of the
blooming things now on my machine at the last count.


>
>Had a virus attack yesterday,

Ouch. The SnoWhite one ? Seems very prevalent at the moment and some
silly sod has been deliberately emailing me copies of it :-(

>Also a feature
>which I quite like now, which at first thought looked to be some sort
>of silly gimmick, is its Red Hot Chilli Pepper warning system for bad
>language ;-)
>Had to laugh yesterday, when a friend of mine whom I consider as a non
>swearer, got 3 Red Hot Chilli Peppers for his use of the word Bullshit
>in a message.

Hehe. Mind you depends on what it defines as 'bad language'. IIRC, web
pages showing the word 'Scunthorpe' were (and perhaps still are) getting
warnings/dumped from such as CyberPatrol and NetNanny.

> Perhaps I should ask him to exchange to Pedt's famous
>Bovine Fodder term instead ;-)
>

Not copyrighted, feel free to use.

--
Pedt
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- appeared in a letter to a Housing Association

Paul Muad'dib

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:19:40 AM4/13/01
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"Richard H Huelin" <rhu...@spamcop.net> did decide to enlighten us on
Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:50:36 +0100 with this delightful recitation:

How rude! Is it your lifes ambition to be professionally unpleasant or
just a passtime?

--
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Fremen death commandos;
Historically: a group formed and pledged to give their lives to right a wrong.

psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:20:13 AM4/13/01
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Richard H Huelin <rhu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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Sorry, I have been on the TV a few times, been front page news
of a local paper, but apart from a few times I have been mention
I have never been on the radio properly.

psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:29:01 AM4/13/01
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Pedt <bo...@pkuatb.net> wrote in message news:LzjhCSDj...@pkuatb.net...

> John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> said the following:
> >On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:51:14 +0100, "psyonicdreams"
> ><psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Sorry
>
> No you weren't as you carried on regardless Psyonic. Whilst there is a
> case for OT posts at times I doubt this was one of them considering how
> much this has been posted to assorted groups/emailed etc. 87 of the
> blooming things now on my machine at the last count.

I had not seen it anywhere else at the time of posting it, I did not
realise it was everywhere already, I just thought it would amuse a
few people. I woke up in a bad mood and it cheered me up, I
just wanted to do the same to others.

psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:38:58 AM4/13/01
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John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ad6cb9d...@news.freeserve.net...

> Interestingly enough, its amazing how many are switching from OE, as
> can be witnessed from the Eudora NG.
> The initial changeover was a little daunting, but like yourself Dean
> it was probably more to do with how used to OE I had got, and a case
> of continuing to accept the unacceptable. But now I am certainly glad
> I made the move as Eudora allows me to work on without the hindrances
> that OE gave me. With OE I had to put in place a system that should be
> there anyway, but isn't and on occasion that human system failed me,
> as I don't always have eyes in the back of my head ;-)

Eudora is now downloading, I will tell you what I think once I have
had a couple of days to play with it!

Paul Muad'dib

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:42:46 AM4/13/01
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Pedt <bo...@pkuatb.net> did decide to enlighten us on Fri, 13 Apr 2001
12:07:15 +0100 with this delightful recitation:

> Hehe. Mind you depends on what it defines as 'bad language'. IIRC,
web
> pages showing the word 'Scunthorpe' were (and perhaps still are)
getting
> warnings/dumped from such as CyberPatrol and NetNanny.

Yep.... as is Essex.

Richard H Huelin

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:57:25 AM4/13/01
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"Paul Muad'dib" <ma...@localhost.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard H Huelin" <rhu...@spamcop.net> did decide to
enlighten us on
> Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:50:36 +0100 with this delightful
recitation:
>
> > "psyonicdreams" <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:ubyB6.9496$FD1.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > > Sorry for the OT post, but I know there will be a few in
here
> > > that will like this! I did not write it, I just got sent
it!
> >
> > You should be on the radio, then we could turn it off.
>
> How rude! Is it your lifes ambition to be professionally
unpleasant or
> just a passtime?

As a matter of fact we both are, the only difference between us
is that I am trying to be, and you cant help it.

Richard H Huelin

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Apr 13, 2001, 8:11:46 AM4/13/01
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"psyonicdreams" <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Richard H Huelin <rhu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:r_zB6.93677$g63.11...@nnrp3.clara.net...
> > "psyonicdreams" <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:ubyB6.9496$FD1.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > > Sorry for the OT post, but I know there will be a few in
here
> > > that will like this! I did not write it, I just got sent
it!
> >
> > You should be on the radio, then we could turn it off.
>
> Sorry, I have been on the TV a few times, been front page news
> of a local paper, but apart from a few times I have been
mention
> I have never been on the radio properly.

Clearly you are a legend in your own lunchtime.

psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 8:41:10 AM4/13/01
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Richard H Huelin <rhu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> "Paul Muad'dib" <ma...@localhost.com> wrote in message
> news:u3oddtgku4p3sjdhc...@4ax.com...
> > How rude! Is it your lifes ambition to be professionally
> unpleasant or
> > just a passtime?
>
> As a matter of fact we both are, the only difference between us
> is that I am trying to be, and you cant help it.

Well sometimes I think you try a little too hard! I don't think Paul
was being unpleasant, but I suppose its hard not to be in reply to
your messages.

John Ryan

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Apr 13, 2001, 9:39:58 AM4/13/01
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:07:15 +0100, Pedt <bo...@pkuatb.net> wrote:

>John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> said the following:
>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:51:14 +0100, "psyonicdreams"
>><psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Sorry
>
>No you weren't as you carried on regardless Psyonic. Whilst there is a
>case for OT posts at times I doubt this was one of them considering how
>much this has been posted to assorted groups/emailed etc. 87 of the
>blooming things now on my machine at the last count.
>>
>>Had a virus attack yesterday,
>
>Ouch. The SnoWhite one ? Seems very prevalent at the moment and some
>silly sod has been deliberately emailing me copies of it :-(
>

Yes the Snow White one. Subject HaHaHa.
After reading a message on one of the NGs from Richard Huelin about
abuse@ BT, I was rather reluctant to post to them, but did so anyway,
not expecting them to do much :-(

>>Also a feature
>>which I quite like now, which at first thought looked to be some sort
>>of silly gimmick, is its Red Hot Chilli Pepper warning system for bad
>>language ;-)
>>Had to laugh yesterday, when a friend of mine whom I consider as a non
>>swearer, got 3 Red Hot Chilli Peppers for his use of the word Bullshit
>>in a message.
>
>Hehe. Mind you depends on what it defines as 'bad language'. IIRC, web
>pages showing the word 'Scunthorpe' were (and perhaps still are) getting
>warnings/dumped from such as CyberPatrol and NetNanny.

Its a little more robust than Cyber Patrol/Net Nanny on this, it seems
to accept Essex, atlthough I haven't tried Essex Girls yet ;-)

>> Perhaps I should ask him to exchange to Pedt's famous
>>Bovine Fodder term instead ;-)
>>
>Not copyrighted, feel free to use.

Cheers Pedt, I think he will be tickled by that ;-)

Richard H Huelin

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Apr 13, 2001, 10:08:39 AM4/13/01
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"psyonicdreams" <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:irCB6.10662$FD1.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...

> Richard H Huelin <rhu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:vRBB6.93804$g63.11...@nnrp3.clara.net...
> > "Paul Muad'dib" <ma...@localhost.com> wrote in message
> > news:u3oddtgku4p3sjdhc...@4ax.com...
> > > How rude! Is it your lifes ambition to be professionally
> > unpleasant or
> > > just a passtime?
> >
> > As a matter of fact we both are, the only difference between
us
> > is that I am trying to be, and you cant help it.
>
> Well sometimes I think you try a little too hard! I don't
think Paul
> was being unpleasant, but I suppose its hard not to be in reply
to
> your messages.

From the way you so consistently manage to get your foot in your
mouth when you say anything, it comes as no great surprise that
you posted something so completely irreverent and without any
connection whatsoever in regard to webspace authoring.

When someone posts something which offends you, you never
hesitate to make your views known. Coming from a farming family
and having recently attended the funeral of a relation for whom
the present crisis proved to be the last straw I personally do
not find the topic of Foot and Mouth amusing. If you really want
to be amusing and droll why don't you post the link to your
friends and family page?

http://www.psyonicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/psy_page_familyfx.htm

psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 10:47:40 AM4/13/01
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Richard H Huelin <rhu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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>
> From the way you so consistently manage to get your foot in your
> mouth when you say anything, it comes as no great surprise that
> you posted something so completely irreverent and without any
> connection whatsoever in regard to webspace authoring.

It was basically a joke about OE, a program the majority of
people in this group use, I did put in the subject that it was OT.

> When someone posts something which offends you, you never
> hesitate to make your views known. Coming from a farming family
> and having recently attended the funeral of a relation for whom
> the present crisis proved to be the last straw I personally do
> not find the topic of Foot and Mouth amusing.

I am sorry, but if everybody avoided every subject that might
offend somebody then there would be nothing to say, I seem
to remember YOU posting a message to me about hoping I
would break both my legs, you then appologised when you
later found out I am disabled. I am very sorry for your loss
and I would not have posted it if I had known.

> If you really want to be amusing and droll why don't you
> post the link to your friends and family page?
>
> http://www.psyonicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/psy_page_familyfx.htm

Thanks for the plug! Do you think I put a picture of me as a baby
on there for serious reasons, I am happy for everybody to see that
page, why else would I put it on my site!

After our little exchange of words in Announce I would like this
to be the end of this, I would rather this did not get out of hand.

psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 11:11:59 AM4/13/01
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psyonicdreams <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Richard H Huelin <rhu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:qMDB6.93886$g63.11...@nnrp3.clara.net...
> >
> > From the way you so consistently manage to get your foot in your
> > mouth when you say anything, it comes as no great surprise that
> > you posted something so completely irreverent and without any
> > connection whatsoever in regard to webspace authoring.
>
> It was basically a joke about OE, a program the majority of
> people in this group use, I did put in the subject that it was OT.
>
> > When someone posts something which offends you, you never
> > hesitate to make your views known. Coming from a farming family
> > and having recently attended the funeral of a relation for whom
> > the present crisis proved to be the last straw I personally do
> > not find the topic of Foot and Mouth amusing.
>
> I am sorry, but if everybody avoided every subject that might
> offend somebody then there would be nothing to say, I seem
> to remember YOU posting a message to me about hoping I
> would break both my legs, you then appologised when you
> later found out I am disabled. I am very sorry for your loss
> and I would not have posted it if I had known.

I would like to add that my Dad is an Ice Cream man, that may
not sound farming related, but the company he works for only
does National Trust places and shows like the Kent show, all of
which are cancelled, closed or just scaled down. He is now not
working because of foot and mouth and losing all the money he
should be earning, so my family are being affected by it too and it
was HIM that sent me the joke.

Tony Morgan

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Apr 13, 2001, 12:10:01 PM4/13/01
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In article <qMDB6.93886$g63.11...@nnrp3.clara.net>, Richard H Huelin
<rhu...@spamcop.net> writes

>If you really want
>to be amusing and droll why don't you post the link to your
>friends and family page?

Because he doesn't want to lose his friends ????
--
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Tony Morgan

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Apr 13, 2001, 12:08:20 PM4/13/01
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In article <vRBB6.93804$g63.11...@nnrp3.clara.net>, Richard H Huelin
<rhu...@spamcop.net> writes

>As a matter of fact we both are, the only difference between us
>is that I am trying to be, and you cant help it.

ROFL

Pedt

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Apr 13, 2001, 12:10:02 PM4/13/01
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John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> said the following:
>On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:07:15 +0100, Pedt <bo...@pkuatb.net> wrote:
>
>
>Yes the Snow White one. Subject HaHaHa.
>After reading a message on one of the NGs from Richard Huelin about
>abuse@ BT, I was rather reluctant to post to them, but did so anyway,
>not expecting them to do much :-(
>
I wouldn't expect too much. They can't even get rid of 'evidence
eliminator' despite the numerous complaints I know they've had :-(

BTW, the bod who sent it probably didn't know they were sending it.

--
Pedt

Pedt

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Apr 13, 2001, 12:23:51 PM4/13/01
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psyonicdreams <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> said the following:

>
>Pedt <bo...@pkuatb.net> wrote in message news:LzjhCSDj...@pkuatb.net...
>> John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> said the following:
>> >On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:51:14 +0100, "psyonicdreams"
>> ><psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Sorry
>>
>> No you weren't as you carried on regardless Psyonic. Whilst there is a
>> case for OT posts at times I doubt this was one of them considering how
>> much this has been posted to assorted groups/emailed etc. 87 of the
>> blooming things now on my machine at the last count.
>
>I had not seen it anywhere else at the time of posting it, I did not
>realise it was everywhere already, I just thought it would amuse a
>few people.

Then put it on a web page and reference it as I did with 'lightbulbs'
etc.

--
Pedt

Chris Darkfire

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Apr 13, 2001, 12:52:03 PM4/13/01
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:07:15 +0100, Pedt <bo...@pkuatb.net> scribbled
with virtual crayon:

>>Had to laugh yesterday, when a friend of mine whom I consider as a non
>>swearer, got 3 Red Hot Chilli Peppers for his use of the word Bullshit
>>in a message.
>
>Hehe. Mind you depends on what it defines as 'bad language'. IIRC, web
>pages showing the word 'Scunthorpe' were (and perhaps still are) getting
>warnings/dumped from such as CyberPatrol and NetNanny.
I've got a freind who works for Thomas Cook (ie the Holiday people)
and he has the same problem with Scunthorpe, Essex etc and as for
Cockermouth!

But this is TC's internal mail system filtering it they now have to
either replace e with £, o with 0 or send stuff as an attachment in
word or similar!

See ya

CHRIS

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Richard H Huelin

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"psyonicdreams" <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> psyonicdreams <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:UkEB6.11140$FD1.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > Richard H Huelin <rhu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> > news:qMDB6.93886$g63.11...@nnrp3.clara.net...
> I would like to add that my Dad is an Ice Cream man, that may
> not sound farming related, but the company he works for only
> does National Trust places and shows like the Kent show, all of
> which are cancelled, closed or just scaled down. He is now not
> working because of foot and mouth and losing all the money he
> should be earning, so my family are being affected by it too
and it
> was HIM that sent me the joke.

You really should seek medical attention for verbal incontinence,
after your last message I was going to let the matter drop, but
as usual you had to drag another irrelevance up in order to
support your stupidity in posting an off topic message. How on
earth can you compare the woes of an unemployed ice cream man to
those suffered by farmers?

Many of the herds lost represent the life time work of several
generations. How can you compare the sound of a silent trike to
the sound of the humane killer as the slaughtermen goes about his
business? How can you compare your dad having to collect his
giro to seeing a lifetimes work going up in flames? How do you
compare the isolation of being confined to the farm and all the
restrictions placed on those whose animals have been infected?
While I have no problem with the feeble minded sharing jokes, I
feel that sharing them by posting to this group is very poor
netiquette and that had you the slightest ounce of intelligence
that you would have understood what I meant by "You should be on
the radio, then we could turn it off" Of course I should have
known better and that you would defend your bad taste to the
bitter end.

Paul Muad'dib

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Apr 13, 2001, 3:14:06 PM4/13/01
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"Richard H Huelin" <rhu...@spamcop.net> did decide to enlighten us on
Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:57:25 +0100 with this delightful recitation:

What can I say, you bring out the worst in me. As much as I am
enjoying this exchange with you, it is hard to tell from which orifice
you are speaking, so I bid you good-day.

psyonicdreams

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Apr 13, 2001, 6:57:55 PM4/13/01
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Cyris Redblock <cyrisr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.154190021...@news.clara.net...
> Bollocks john , 6 weeks ago if somebody had asked *you* to change your
> setup - you would have told them to go screw themselves .
>
> A user has to 'want' the change before doing so .
>
> Just because you have discovered there is life outside OE - doesnt mean
> to say the whole planet is suddenly converted .

Well I am not converted yet, I downloaded Eudora and installed
it, but I don't think much of it yet. I think I am too stuck in my
OE ways to change. OE does everything I need and I have good
virus protection, firewall etc seperate to that, so I feel pretty safe.

Tony Morgan

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:09:40 PM4/13/01
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In article <vtLB6.10528$Ow3.2...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
psyonicdreams <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> writes

>Well I am not converted yet, I downloaded Eudora and installed
>it, but I don't think much of it yet. I think I am too stuck in my
>OE ways to change. OE does everything I need and I have good
>virus protection, firewall etc seperate to that, so I feel pretty safe.

All the virus protection/firewalls in the world won't protect you from
the security holes in OE (or in Outlook for that matter).

Tony Morgan

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:20:08 PM4/13/01
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In article <MPG.154197534...@news.clara.net>, Cyris Redblock
<cyrisr...@hotmail.com> writes
>I used to swear by OE myself (hangs head in shame) , But that was only
>because I thought I did everything I wanted! .

Its good to remember that muggles use what they're given.

Tony Morgan

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:29:43 PM4/13/01
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In article <C1S1$KAom4...@atomor.demon.co.uk>, Tony Morgan
<to...@atomor.demon.co.uk> writes

>>I used to swear by OE myself (hangs head in shame) , But that was only
>>because I thought I did everything I wanted! .
>
>Its good to remember that muggles use what they're given.

I might also add that Opera 5 (IMHO the very best browser available) has
(IMHO) the very best newsreader and mail clients available.

I've always (or rather for a *very* long time) used Turnpike - I'm
afraid that I'm soon to switch to Opera.

Paul Baker

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Apr 13, 2001, 7:35:46 PM4/13/01
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In article <MPG.154197534...@news.clara.net>, Cyris Redblock
<cyrisr...@hotmail.com> writes

>I used to swear by OE myself (hangs head in shame) , But that was only
>because I thought I did everything I wanted! .


...Not to mention a few things that you didn't want?
--
Paul

John Ryan

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Apr 13, 2001, 9:46:24 PM4/13/01
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:40:57 +0100, Cyris Redblock
<cyrisr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>> Interestingly enough, its amazing how many are switching from OE, as
>> can be witnessed from the Eudora NG.

>Bollocks john , 6 weeks ago if somebody had asked *you* to change your

>setup - you would have told them to go screw themselves .

Thats your territory not mine.

>A user has to 'want' the change before doing so .

Agreed.

>
>Just because you have discovered there is life outside OE - doesnt mean
>to say the whole planet is suddenly converted .

But then I have known that about people for some time now, they make
decisions without my influence, believe it or not ;-)

Perhaps the day may well arrive when you come to discover this little
fact for yourself, and stop putting people on pedestals the way you
do. Grow up, you never know, you might even enjoy it..

Paul

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Apr 14, 2001, 4:31:13 AM4/14/01
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:29:43 +0100, Tony Morgan
<to...@atomor.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I might also add that Opera 5 (IMHO the very best browser available) has
>(IMHO) the very best newsreader and mail clients available.
>
>I've always (or rather for a *very* long time) used Turnpike - I'm
>afraid that I'm soon to switch to Opera.

I use Agent for news and OE for mail. I wish to continue with Agent
for news.
1) Does the opera mail software allow downloads from multiple mail
servers in one dial-up (without messing around with .ini files etc) ?

2) Can HTML mail be read in Opera?

I prefer email in plain text but have to compromise on this as a lot
of people send HTML mail these days.

Joe Gray

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Apr 14, 2001, 9:44:04 AM4/14/01
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John Ryan <jo...@bside90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ad7a3bd...@news.freeserve.net...

> On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:40:57 +0100, Cyris Redblock
> <cyrisr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Interestingly enough, its amazing how many are switching from OE, as
> >> can be witnessed from the Eudora NG.
>
> >Bollocks john , 6 weeks ago if somebody had asked *you* to change your
> >setup - you would have told them to go screw themselves .
>
> Thats your territory not mine.
>
> >A user has to 'want' the change before doing so .
>
> Agreed.
>
> >
> >Just because you have discovered there is life outside OE - doesnt mean
> >to say the whole planet is suddenly converted .
>
> But then I have known that about people for some time now, they make
> decisions without my influence, believe it or not ;-)
>
> Perhaps the day may well arrive when you come to discover this little
> fact for yourself, and stop putting people on pedestals the way you
> do. Grow up, you never know, you might even enjoy it..
>

Believe me you won't - How I wish for those speccy fuelled halcyon days of
no responsibilities. Saying that; a pole-dancing competition is going to
take place in near-by Henley-on-Thames. (-: Nice. In a non-misogynic way,
of-course.

joe

Pedt Scragg

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Apr 15, 2001, 8:37:23 AM4/15/01
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In <tfpddtsbuihrqpkbv...@4ax.com>, Paul Muad'dib
<ma...@localhost.com> wrote

>Yep.... as is Essex.
>
Long time, no see ;-)

Obviously still welcome to email if needed.
--
Pedt

Paul Muad'dib

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Apr 15, 2001, 8:10:10 PM4/15/01
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Pedt Scragg <pe...@signpost-design.co.uk> did decide to enlighten us on
Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:37:23 +0100 with this delightful recitation:

Hello matey! Yeah, laying low a bit at the moment, fame has it's
disadvantages it seems... like stalkers and weirdos! LOL

I see the infamous RHH is still as potent as ever... geeze that guys
B.O. could strip the HTML off a web page at 200 yards.

Tim Jackson

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Apr 15, 2001, 10:12:36 PM4/15/01
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:31:13 +0100, Paul <meagai...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:29:43 +0100, Tony Morgan
><to...@atomor.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I might also add that Opera 5 (IMHO the very best browser available) has
>>(IMHO) the very best newsreader and mail clients available.

I'm running Opera 5.0 here. I gave up trying to set the newsreader
up, after I'd been to the Opera website which said that you couldn't
use it off-line.

Your headers say that you use Turnpike rather than Opera for
newsreading, Tony?

[snip]


>
>2) Can HTML mail be read in Opera?

Yes.

--
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Tony Morgan

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Apr 15, 2001, 8:41:36 PM4/15/01
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In article <MPG.15443f48c...@news.lineone.net>, Fran
<f...@ynys.fslife.co.uk> writes

>> Its good to remember that muggles use what they're given.
>>
>Muggles? You been reading Harry Potter? :o)

The best read(s) I've had in a long time :-)

Pedt

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Apr 16, 2001, 3:21:27 AM4/16/01
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Paul Muad'dib <ma...@localhost.com> said the following:

>Pedt Scragg <pe...@signpost-design.co.uk> did decide to enlighten us on
>Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:37:23 +0100 with this delightful recitation:
>
>> In <tfpddtsbuihrqpkbv...@4ax.com>, Paul Muad'dib
>> <ma...@localhost.com> wrote
>>
>> >Yep.... as is Essex.
>> >
>> Long time, no see ;-)
>>
>> Obviously still welcome to email if needed.
>
>Hello matey! Yeah, laying low a bit at the moment, fame has it's
>disadvantages it seems... like stalkers and weirdos!

Oh bullocks. What on earth is up with these twits ?

--
Pedt

psyonicdreams

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Apr 16, 2001, 4:59:32 AM4/16/01
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Paul Muad'dib <ma...@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:30ekdt0eks0dfougj...@4ax.com...

> Pedt Scragg <pe...@signpost-design.co.uk> did decide to enlighten us on
> Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:37:23 +0100 with this delightful recitation:
> > In <tfpddtsbuihrqpkbv...@4ax.com>, Paul Muad'dib
> > <ma...@localhost.com> wrote
> >
> > >Yep.... as is Essex.
> > >
> > Long time, no see ;-)
> >
> > Obviously still welcome to email if needed.
>
> Hello matey! Yeah, laying low a bit at the moment, fame has it's
> disadvantages it seems... like stalkers and weirdos! LOL
>
> I see the infamous RHH is still as potent as ever... geeze that guys
> B.O. could strip the HTML off a web page at 200 yards.

ROTFL, I could not have said it better myself!

Richard H Huelin

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Apr 16, 2001, 7:01:03 AM4/16/01
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"psyonicdreams" <psyoni...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:wtyC6.7738$xA.11...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...

> Paul Muad'dib <ma...@localhost.com> wrote in message
> news:30ekdt0eks0dfougj...@4ax.com...
> > Pedt Scragg <pe...@signpost-design.co.uk> did decide to
enlighten us on
> > Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:37:23 +0100 with this delightful
recitation:
> > > In <tfpddtsbuihrqpkbv...@4ax.com>, Paul
Muad'dib
> > > <ma...@localhost.com> wrote
> > I see the infamous RHH is still as potent as ever... geeze
that guys
> > B.O. could strip the HTML off a web page at 200 yards.
>
> ROTFL, I could not have said it better myself!

No doubt you would have, if your were intelligent enough to have
thought of it.

psyonicdreams

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Apr 16, 2001, 9:52:24 AM4/16/01
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Richard H Huelin <rhu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:987419141.289649@dionysos...

if your were intelligent enough? Interesting use of English, maybe
I am not the only person with intelligence problems?

Paul Muad'dib

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Apr 16, 2001, 7:59:54 PM4/16/01
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"Richard H Huelin" <rhu...@spamcop.net> did decide to enlighten us on
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:01:03 +0100 with this delightful recitation:

My dear Dicky, if I did not know better I would say that remark had
cought you somewhat unawares!

psyonicdreams

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Apr 17, 2001, 4:18:01 AM4/17/01
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Paul Muad'dib <ma...@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:j76ndt8308c7nm2qe...@4ax.com...
>
> At the rate I'm going I'll be taking a whole troop! LOL
>
> <THOUGHT TYPE="PONDER" ALT "Paul ponders over something">
> Why does everyone seem so keen to offload their kids onto me?
> <NOTHOUGHT>
> This site requires the use of thoughts but your brain does not support
> them.
> </NOTHOUGHT>

Well mate there is only one thing for it, you better take Jojo with
you too! lol

Bryan

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Apr 17, 2001, 5:12:15 AM4/17/01
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Reading freeserve.webspace.authoring
article<MPG.154595235...@news.freeserve.net> onTue, 17 Apr
2001 at 01:00:49, I noticed that Ryan B
<who-let...@mmers-out.woof-woof-woof> wrote.
>Well said but I would have to add that anyone thinking of using Gravity
>probably has to be patient because, like a Toblerone[1], there's no
>chance in hell of getting the best out of it in one evening. It can seem
>a little intimidating at first because of the sheer volume of features
>but it is, IMHO, to newsreaders what the mighty 1st Page 2000 is to web
>design tools.


Which reminds me IIRC April is supposed to be the month that the
(renamed) 1st Page 2000 is to be relaunched with new features - hmmm no
email from them yet, maybe I'll revisit their web site to see if there
is more news.

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Bryan

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Apr 17, 2001, 6:03:48 AM4/17/01
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Reading freeserve.webspace.authoring
article<TfPO3BCv...@brymor.freeserve.co.uk> onTue, 17 Apr 2001 at
10:12:15, I noticed that Bryan <Bryan@[127.0.0.1]> wrote.

>Which reminds me IIRC April is supposed to be the month that the
>(renamed) 1st Page 2000 is to be relaunched with new features - hmmm no
>email from them yet, maybe I'll revisit their web site to see if there
>is more news.
>
>
Yep it says :-
>
First Page 3 expected launch/release date:
April/May 2001.

Joe Gray

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Apr 24, 2001, 4:58:08 PM4/24/01
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Tony Morgan <to...@atomor.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:buLDpIAA$j26...@atomor.demon.co.uk...

> In article <MPG.15443f48c...@news.lineone.net>, Fran
> <f...@ynys.fslife.co.uk> writes
> >> Its good to remember that muggles use what they're given.
> >>
> >Muggles? You been reading Harry Potter? :o)
>
> The best read(s) I've had in a long time :-)
> --

You should try Society of the Mind by Eric L. Harry (-:

Great book I think and I haven't even read it yet! <LOL>

joe


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