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Big G

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Sep 23, 2005, 5:05:43 AM9/23/05
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HOTTEST Rapper, Kanye West, was refused entry into *Chinawhite*, the
West End club, (because he wasn't recognised by bouncers) but Makosi
and her friends jumped the queue and walked straight in.

However, the club may have regretted letting Makosi in after her
shameful performance when she left the club at around 3.30am.
(so it says on the report here...) ;-)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/3amcontent/tm_objectid=16163009&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=kanye-who--name_page.html

or SnipURL
http://snipurl.com/hvzb

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Big G

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Sep 23, 2005, 5:52:24 AM9/23/05
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on 23/09/2005, *Big G* supposed :

> HOTTEST Rapper, Kanye West, was refused entry into *Chinawhite*, the West End
> club, (because he wasn't recognised by bouncers) but Makosi and her friends
> jumped the queue and walked straight in.
>
> However, the club may have regretted letting Makosi in after her shameful
> performance when she left the club at around 3.30am.
> (so it says on the report here...) ;-)

And this one calls Makosi 'mouthy' :-))
http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0,,50001-1196630,00.html

JohnM

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Sep 23, 2005, 6:30:58 AM9/23/05
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In article <mn.ba5d7d591...@invalid.com>, Big G
<em...@invalid.com> writes

>HOTTEST Rapper, Kanye West, was refused entry into *Chinawhite*, the
>West End club, (because he wasn't recognised by bouncers) but Makosi
>and her friends jumped the queue and walked straight in.
>
>However, the club may have regretted letting Makosi in after her
>shameful performance when she left the club at around 3.30am.
> (so it says on the report here...) ;-)

You missed out the 'shameful performance' - from the URL:

'Continues our spy: "She grabbed on to her crutch with both hands and
shouted: 'I really need to wee.'" Classy.'

Wanting to pee and telling pple about it is very 'shameful' indeed.

Well, we have been reading about Makosi (no safety belt, naked pix,
possible expulsion, shameful behaviour) for a month now. She's hardly
been out of the papers. Which is exactly what makes a 'celebrity'. As
soon as she realized she had the 'bad' persona, she cultivated (maybe
even starting from her Davina interview). Very smart girl, and what many
of us were expecting.

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Big G

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Sep 23, 2005, 6:42:42 AM9/23/05
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*JohnM* explained on 23/09/2005 :

> You missed out the 'shameful performance' - from the URL:
>
> 'Continues our spy: "She grabbed on to her crutch with both hands and
> shouted: 'I really need to wee.'" Classy.'
>
> Wanting to pee and telling pple about it is very 'shameful' indeed.
>
> Well, we have been reading about Makosi (no safety belt, naked pix,
> possible expulsion, shameful behaviour) for a month now. She's hardly
> been out of the papers. Which is exactly what makes a 'celebrity'. As
> soon as she realized she had the 'bad' persona, she cultivated (maybe
> even starting from her Davina interview). Very smart girl, and what many
> of us were expecting.

Dr Harold Shipman was in the news for months too but I don't consider
him a celebrity.
Many of the news items that I've found since Makosi came out of the BB
house wouldn't agree that she has 'cultivated'... but Hey! what do I
know? :/

Vicky =^,,^= cat

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Sep 23, 2005, 8:33:17 AM9/23/05
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"JohnM" <jo...@n00.spam.scroll.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <mn.ba5d7d591...@invalid.com>, Big G
> <em...@invalid.com> writes
>>HOTTEST Rapper, Kanye West, was refused entry into *Chinawhite*, the
>>West End club, (because he wasn't recognised by bouncers) but Makosi
>>and her friends jumped the queue and walked straight in.
>>
>>However, the club may have regretted letting Makosi in after her
>>shameful performance when she left the club at around 3.30am.
>> (so it says on the report here...) ;-)
>
> You missed out the 'shameful performance' - from the URL:
>
> 'Continues our spy: "She grabbed on to her crutch with both hands and
> shouted: 'I really need to wee.'" Classy.'
>
> Wanting to pee and telling pple about it is very 'shameful' indeed.
>
And speaking of pee, all Anthony's fans will be thrilled to spot, in Heat
mag, a picture of their idol emptying his bladder behind a tree. Oh the
excitement.

Vic


Big G

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Sep 23, 2005, 8:40:26 AM9/23/05
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*Vicky =^,,^= cat* explained on 23/09/2005 :

>> Wanting to pee and telling pple about it is very 'shameful' indeed.
>>
> And speaking of pee, all Anthony's fans will be thrilled to spot, in Heat
> mag, a picture of their idol emptying his bladder behind a tree. Oh the
> excitement.

Better he did it behind the tree than in front of it... and where was
Craig? :-))

Big G

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Sep 23, 2005, 9:22:07 AM9/23/05
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After serious thinking *JohnM* wrote :

> Well, we have been reading about Makosi (no safety belt, naked pix,
> possible expulsion, shameful behaviour) for a month now. She's hardly
> been out of the papers. Which is exactly what makes a 'celebrity'.

Celebrity? Osama Bin Laden has hardly been out of the papers too!
Makosi doesn't dance, she doesn't sing, she doesn't act (matter of
opinion!), she isn't a model, she isn't a TV cook, she isn't a
sportwoman, she isn't a presenter, she isn't a nurse any more... Makosi
IS a person who has been on a TV game show and she IS an immigrant
worker who has violated the conditions of her work permit.

flopsy

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Sep 23, 2005, 9:31:19 AM9/23/05
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"Big G" <em...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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He was disguised as the tree!! :oD

Flopsy :o)


JohnM

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Sep 23, 2005, 10:42:11 AM9/23/05
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In article <mn.bb5e7d59a...@invalid.com>, Big G
<em...@invalid.com> writes

As I said elsewhere, you are mixing up notoriety with celebrity. As for
talent: what talent do Abe Titmus (sp?) or Jordan have? The only talent
they have is for self-publicity: have the papers talk about them.

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JohnM

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Sep 23, 2005, 10:43:39 AM9/23/05
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In article <3pib0gF...@individual.net>, Vicky =^,,^= cat
<nos...@goaway.com> writes

That of course is not shameful, but photo-worthy...

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JohnM

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Sep 23, 2005, 10:35:23 AM9/23/05
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In article <mn.babe7d594...@invalid.com>, Big G
<em...@invalid.com> writes

>*JohnM* explained on 23/09/2005 :
>> You missed out the 'shameful performance' - from the URL:
>>
>> 'Continues our spy: "She grabbed on to her crutch with both hands and
>> shouted: 'I really need to wee.'" Classy.'
>>
>> Wanting to pee and telling pple about it is very 'shameful' indeed.
>>
>> Well, we have been reading about Makosi (no safety belt, naked pix,
>> possible expulsion, shameful behaviour) for a month now. She's hardly
>> been out of the papers. Which is exactly what makes a 'celebrity'. As
>> soon as she realized she had the 'bad' persona, she cultivated (maybe
>> even starting from her Davina interview). Very smart girl, and what many
>> of us were expecting.
>
>Dr Harold Shipman was in the news for months too but I don't consider
>him a celebrity.

G, you are mixing up notoriety with celebrity. I don't think cameras
followed Shipman into ChinaWhite's nor did gossip columns follow his
moves.

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Vicky =^,,^= cat

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Sep 23, 2005, 11:09:18 AM9/23/05
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"JohnM" <jo...@n00.spam.scroll.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <mn.bb5e7d59a...@invalid.com>, Big G
> <em...@invalid.com> writes
>>After serious thinking *JohnM* wrote :
>>> Well, we have been reading about Makosi (no safety belt, naked pix,
>>> possible expulsion, shameful behaviour) for a month now. She's hardly
>>> been out of the papers. Which is exactly what makes a 'celebrity'.
>>
>>Celebrity? Osama Bin Laden has hardly been out of the papers too!
>>Makosi doesn't dance, she doesn't sing, she doesn't act (matter of
>>opinion!), she isn't a model, she isn't a TV cook, she isn't a
>>sportwoman, she isn't a presenter, she isn't a nurse any more... Makosi
>>IS a person who has been on a TV game show and she IS an immigrant
>>worker who has violated the conditions of her work permit.
>>
>
> As I said elsewhere, you are mixing up notoriety with celebrity.

<sigh> a very common problem these days. Starting with those from BB.

As for
> talent: what talent do Abe Titmus (sp?) or Jordan have? The only talent
> they have is for self-publicity: have the papers talk about them.
>
>

Abi Titmuss. Don't insult her or Makosi will kill you ;-)

Vic


Big G

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Sep 23, 2005, 11:23:55 AM9/23/05
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*JohnM* was thinking very hard :

>> Celebrity? Osama Bin Laden has hardly been out of the papers too!
>> Makosi doesn't dance, she doesn't sing, she doesn't act (matter of
>> opinion!), she isn't a model, she isn't a TV cook, she isn't a
>> sportwoman, she isn't a presenter, she isn't a nurse any more... Makosi
>> IS a person who has been on a TV game show and she IS an immigrant
>> worker who has violated the conditions of her work permit.
>>
>
> As I said elsewhere, you are mixing up notoriety with celebrity. As for
> talent: what talent do Abe Titmus (sp?) or Jordan have? The only talent
> they have is for self-publicity: have the papers talk about them.

I'm not mixing anything. I consider a 'celebrity' to be someone who is
well known for a specific achievement such as acting, modelling (not
porn), sport etc. I don't consider Abi Titmus a celebrity, she's
notorious and has sold stories of her sexual exploits to Sunday rags.
Her ex, John Leslie, was well known and she's only well-known for her
sexual activities with him, other guys and women.

As for Jordan (Katie Price), she may be rich from her modelling work
i.e. flashing her false boobs on page 3 in The SUN etc. but she doesn't
have any other talent except for her outrageous public behaviour and
her failed love affairs with pop singers and soccer stars. I wouldn't
give either of them the time of day.

There's no clear definition of the word and who one person may consider
a celebrity, another person may not.

Big G

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Sep 23, 2005, 11:24:12 AM9/23/05
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*JohnM* explained :

>> Dr Harold Shipman was in the news for months too but I don't consider
>> him a celebrity.
>
> G, you are mixing up notoriety with celebrity. I don't think cameras
> followed Shipman into ChinaWhite's nor did gossip columns follow his
> moves.

I'm not mixing anything. Makosi does not have any 'achievement' to her
name. She is just notorious at the moment, she's not a celebrity.

Anyway, we can go on like this forever. Let's just agree that we
disagree? ;-))

Vicky =^,,^= cat

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Sep 23, 2005, 11:56:56 AM9/23/05
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"Big G" <em...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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But, overall, for today's standards, those ladies are indeed celebs,
together with others with even less to their names (eg. Rebecca Loos. I'm no
fan of the Beckhams but I have a deep aversion to her: how can happily
accept to become famous by exploiting someone else's heartache? The girl's
scum.)

Vic


Big G

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Sep 23, 2005, 12:13:01 PM9/23/05
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*Vicky =^,,^= cat* wrote on 23/09/2005 :
>> I'm not mixing anything. I consider a 'celebrity' to be someone who is well
>> known for a specific achievement such as acting, modelling (not porn),
>> sport etc. I don't consider Abi Titmus a celebrity, she's notorious and has
>> sold stories of her sexual exploits to Sunday rags. Her ex, John Leslie,
>> was well known and she's only well-known for her sexual activities with
>> him, other guys and women.
>>
>> As for Jordan (Katie Price), she may be rich from her modelling work i.e.
>> flashing her false boobs on page 3 in The SUN etc. but she doesn't have any
>> other talent except for her outrageous public behaviour and her failed love
>> affairs with pop singers and soccer stars. I wouldn't give either of them
>> the time of day.
>>
>> There's no clear definition of the word and who one person may consider a
>> celebrity, another person may not.
>>
>>
> But, overall, for today's standards, those ladies are indeed celebs, together
> with others with even less to their names (eg. Rebecca Loos. I'm no fan of
> the Beckhams but I have a deep aversion to her: how can happily accept to
> become famous by exploiting someone else's heartache? The girl's scum.)

I class Rebecca Loos in the same category as I do Jordan and Abi
Titmus. - just 'notorious' for their sexual exploits. I wouldn't call
her a 'celebrity'. ;-)

JohnM

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Sep 23, 2005, 12:33:07 PM9/23/05
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In article <mn.bbd77d59c...@invalid.com>, Big G
<em...@invalid.com> writes

>There's no clear definition of the word and who one person may consider
>a celebrity, another person may not.

Well exactly. Nowadays 'celebrities' are not talented people, they have
been reduced to people gossip columns write about. When I was young we
used to call them TV personalities. Now with OK and Hello and Heat there
is a market for people who give up their private lives and become public
property for the consumption of the readers of those magazines. Very
post-modern. No one to write about, no Hello. It's all manufactured.

Anyway, that's what all BB contestants want 'to be on the telly'; that's
what Ant's ambitions are (in one year from now I still want to be in the
papers); and that's what Makosi wants. And she's very successful, given
that we haven't stopped talking - and the papers haven't stopped talking
- about her.

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JohnM

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Sep 23, 2005, 12:35:45 PM9/23/05
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In article <mn.bc097d590...@invalid.com>, Big G
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A celebrity is someone who appears in gossip columns and Hello because
they write about celebrities. I know this sounds like - is - a self-
referencing definition, but that's post-modernism for you.

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shazzbat

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Sep 23, 2005, 12:59:17 PM9/23/05
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"JohnM" <jo...@n00.spam.scroll.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Post-modern, there's a phrase I've never understood. I always thought that
modern was what's new and 'now', and rolled along so that the next thing
that was new became modern, and what had been modern became old-fashioned.
Post-modern would be in the future, no?

Steve


flopsy

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Sep 23, 2005, 2:18:52 PM9/23/05
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"JohnM" <jo...@n00.spam.scroll.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Not commenting on Abi.....she doesn't merit it......However, although I
dislike Jordan, she actually started as a model and made her money and
notoriety work for her.

Flopsy :o)


JohnM

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Sep 23, 2005, 2:54:10 PM9/23/05
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In article <dh1ck3$b4k$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, shazzbat
<shaz...@spamlessness.co.uk> writes

>
>Post-modern, there's a phrase I've never understood. I always thought that
>modern was what's new and 'now', and rolled along so that the next thing
>that was new became modern, and what had been modern became old-fashioned.
>Post-modern would be in the future, no?

Have a look here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-modern

Modern means many things: contemporary (which is the use you are
thinking of) but it also describes a movement in art (modernism).
Famous modernist architects are for instance Oscar Niemeyer and Le
Corbusier (they just loved cement). The Sydney Opera House is a
modernist building. Post-modern architecture is the Lloyds building and
the Pompidou centre ("Let it all hang out - why should we hide the
insides of the building kind-of-thing").

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shazzbat

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Sep 23, 2005, 3:10:40 PM9/23/05
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> >Post-modern, there's a phrase I've never understood. I always thought
that
> >modern was what's new and 'now', and rolled along so that the next thing
> >that was new became modern, and what had been modern became
old-fashioned.
> >Post-modern would be in the future, no?
>
> Have a look here
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-modern
>
> Modern means many things: contemporary (which is the use you are
> thinking of) but it also describes a movement in art (modernism).
> Famous modernist architects are for instance Oscar Niemeyer and Le
> Corbusier (they just loved cement). The Sydney Opera House is a
> modernist building. Post-modern architecture is the Lloyds building and
> the Pompidou centre ("Let it all hang out - why should we hide the
> insides of the building kind-of-thing").
>

I just can't wait for post-post-modernism :-))

Steve


flopsy

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"shazzbat" <shaz...@spamlessness.co.uk> wrote in message
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what about the Pre Post Modernism. :o)


shazzbat

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Sep 23, 2005, 4:49:44 PM9/23/05
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> >>
> >
> > I just can't wait for post-post-modernism :-))
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
>
> what about the Pre Post Modernism. :o)
>

Oh, bugger, I think I missed that. Must have been asleep.


Les

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Sep 23, 2005, 9:38:18 PM9/23/05
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Big G [em...@invalid.com] said

I think that being a page three girl first does actually make Jordan a
celebrity, as everything else just followed.

Subtle, I know. :-)

Big G

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Sep 24, 2005, 1:38:48 AM9/24/05
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After serious thinking *Les* wrote :

>> I class Rebecca Loos in the same category as I do Jordan and Abi
>> Titmus. - just 'notorious' for their sexual exploits. I wouldn't call
>> her a 'celebrity'. ;-)
>>
>
> I think that being a page three girl first does actually make Jordan a
> celebrity, as everything else just followed.
>
> Subtle, I know. :-)

As I said in another post...


"I consider a 'celebrity' to be someone who is well known for a
specific achievement such as acting, modelling (not porn), sport etc."

Whether it is subtle or not, I don't think displaying your boobs in a
tabloid newspaper makes somebody a celebrity... but as there is no
clear definition, we'll just have to differ in our interpretation of
the expression 'celebrity'. ;-)

Vicky =^,,^= cat

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Sep 25, 2005, 11:05:29 AM9/25/05
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"Big G" <em...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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I don't see much difference in terms of 'achievement' between trotting up
and down a catwalk, showing off your body in fancy clothes and parading your
body, minus the fancy clothes, on the pages of of lads' mags and tabloids.
Unless, of course, you don't consider the various Kates, Naomis and Erins
'celebrities' either.
IMO, for today's shallow standards they all are celebrities; the issue here
is simply that the word itself has lost much of its value and meaning, and
that is why Meryl Streep and Emma Thompson are celebrities, but sadly so are
Kate Lawler and Callum Best. The (meager) consolation is, Streep and
Thompson have enjoyed decades of well-deserved fame and it will last until
they die, while the others of much lesser caliber and nil talent will have
to fight for every millimeter of press they get, and stoop to serious lows
to obtain more. Mercifully for us, it won't last long anyway (but then new
pseudo-celebs will appear... and on and on).

Victoria


Izzard

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Sep 25, 2005, 2:39:33 PM9/25/05
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"Vicky =^,,^= cat" <nos...@goaway.com> wrote in message
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Let's hope it doesn't go on. What's Rebecca Loos famous for?? having a fling
with a famous, MARRIED footballer. That woman really annoys me, she was on
tele the other day saying "I consider myself a celebrity, I am popular" God,
she winds me up, I don't even think she's pretty, I'm sure I can see a bit
of a hooked nose!! (I'm not being catty, I'm sure it's there!!) I won't go
on about this as I do seem to get on my high horse, but I would like to say,
"How can people make money out of being sluts??" that's all!


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