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Damian

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Jun 29, 2009, 5:58:55 PM6/29/09
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Obanair Ltd has today announced a route feasibility study into
connecting Prestwick (PIK) and Edinburgh (EDI) with the Outer
Hebrides. Two routes are to be studied: Prestwick - Oban - Stornoway
and Edinburgh - Oban - Benbecula.

Source:
http://www.obanair.co.uk/

Jim Mason

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Jun 29, 2009, 8:11:01 PM6/29/09
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In article <db42e55c-774e-4501-9acd-
29725a...@h2g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, damian...@yahoo.co.uk says...

The mere fact they have to carry out a `feasibility study` into this would
suggest that they haven't access to the internet AND they have more money
than sense. They HAVE read the news re Benbecula?

But good luck to them!!! EDI is seemingly a licence to print money -
involving PIK would mean the press would go into overdrive?

Damian

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Jun 30, 2009, 2:52:27 AM6/30/09
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On 30 June, 00:11, Jim Mason <_...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <db42e55c-774e-4501-9acd-
> 29725ab37...@h2g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, damianlea...@yahoo.co.uk says...

>
> > Obanair Ltd has today announced a route feasibility study into
> > connecting Prestwick (PIK) and Edinburgh (EDI) with the Outer
> > Hebrides. Two routes are to be studied: Prestwick - Oban - Stornoway
> > and Edinburgh - Oban - Benbecula.
>
> > Source:
> >http://www.obanair.co.uk/
>
> The mere fact they have to carry out a `feasibility study` into this would
> suggest that they haven't access to the internet AND they have more money
> than sense. They HAVE read the news re Benbecula?
>
> But good luck to them!!! EDI is seemingly a licence to print money -

You don't pull off sarcasm too well James ;)

> involving PIK would mean the press would go into overdrive?

Would it? Surely not. Isn't it evidence of the "competition" angle
some crave in here ;)

Jim Mason

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Jun 30, 2009, 3:10:32 AM6/30/09
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In article <bd3c30ff-c53a-4566-9523-
41af27...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, damian...@yahoo.co.uk says...

All joking aside this venture hasn't a hope in hell of surviving even if
the economy improves. Spencer would be best stick to telecommunications me
thinks.

Joe Curry

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Jun 30, 2009, 3:23:46 AM6/30/09
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:58:55 -0700 (PDT), Damian
<damian...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Obanair Ltd has today announced a route feasibility study into
>connecting Prestwick (PIK) and Edinburgh (EDI)

Apologies for the duplication in aaue Damian.

--
EDINBURGH - It's a kinda magic!
Edinburgh Airport: Scotland's future
Grand Central airport,rail and road terminus.
Indisputably Scotland's top International Hub.

Joe Curry

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Jun 30, 2009, 3:31:28 AM6/30/09
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:11:01 +0100, Jim Mason <_@gmail.com> wrote:

>The mere fact they have to carry out a `feasibility study` into this would
>suggest that they haven't access to the internet AND they have more money
>than sense. They HAVE read the news re Benbecula?

What size aircraft are you expecting them to use?

>But good luck to them!!! EDI is seemingly a licence to print money -
>involving PIK would mean the press would go into overdrive?

The Herald ?

Joe Curry

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Jun 30, 2009, 3:33:47 AM6/30/09
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:10:32 +0100, Jim Mason <_@gmail.com> wrote:

>All joking aside this venture hasn't a hope in hell of surviving even if
>the economy improves. Spencer would be best stick to telecommunications
>me thinks.

He seems better qualified than you...

Joe Curry

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Jun 30, 2009, 3:59:14 AM6/30/09
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:52:27 -0700 (PDT), Damian
<damian...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>> But good luck to them!!! EDI is seemingly a licence to print money -

>You don't pull off sarcasm too well James ;)

And why has he diverted your posts to aaug.. ? 'Poison Dart'

>> involving PIK would mean the press would go into overdrive?

>Would it? Surely not. Isn't it evidence of the "competition" angle
>some crave in here ;)

Especially Mr Mason.. he hates these 'poison darts' or so he says.

JerseySpence

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:48:58 PM7/3/09
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On 30 June, 08:10, Jim Mason <_...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <bd3c30ff-c53a-4566-9523-
> 41af27820...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, damianlea...@yahoo.co.uk says...

Not just me involved Jim, a couple of pilots working for other
airlines as well. BTW not involved in telecoms any longer...

Re Benbecula - yeah the laying off/downgrading of the missle range
will certainly make a difference to potential customers, but initial
feedback regarding PIK - SYY is encouraging.

Joe Curry

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Jul 3, 2009, 5:28:05 PM7/3/09
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:48:58 -0700 (PDT), JerseySpence
<spencerp...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>Re Benbecula - yeah the laying off/downgrading of the missle range
>will certainly make a difference to potential customers, but initial
>feedback regarding PIK - SYY is encouraging.

Good to hear that Spencer..don't let the GLA Souls put you off..

Jim Mason

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Jul 3, 2009, 6:42:17 PM7/3/09
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In article <f5ed9116-d029-4a48-96d3-ff54024ff6f9
@y9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, spencerp...@yahoo.co.uk says...

Yes I sussed that re telecoms. I admire your enterprise but cannot help
feel it is doomed from the outset but I will LOVE IT if proved wrong!


>
> Re Benbecula - yeah the laying off/downgrading of the missle range
> will certainly make a difference to potential customers, but initial
> feedback regarding PIK - SYY is encouraging.

That is indeed good news. Please keep me posted as I would like to see this
succeed despite my misgivings!

On a similar note - how is the seaplane doing re bookings? Would this be a
benchmark service Spencer? It is in MHO very expensive for what it offers.
Can you envisiage being able to offer more attractive pricing?

Jim

JerseySpence

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Jul 4, 2009, 4:57:47 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 3, 11:42 pm, Jim Mason <_...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <f5ed9116-d029-4a48-96d3-ff54024ff6f9
> @y9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, spencerpryor2...@yahoo.co.uk says...

Re the seaplane service don't know about yield levels but regard it
more as a tourist venture - ie treat for expensive lunch in Oban or
Tobermory rather than a regular air route. Regarding our pricing
economics 101 means we have to be price and time competitive with
existing carriers. Interesting that Ryanair have announced an increase
in Stansted flights from PIK - gives us more connections... as long as
you don't mind Rayanir treating you as SLF....

Jim Mason

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:44:17 AM7/4/09
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In article <4a3541ef-fd75-441e-8623-454dc7115156
@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, spencerp...@yahoo.co.uk says...

SLF??

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:44:28 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:57:47 -0700 (PDT), JerseySpence
<spencerp...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>Interesting that Ryanair have announced an increase
>in Stansted flights from PIK - gives us more connections...

Long may it continue..

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:45:32 AM7/4/09
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:42:17 +0100, Jim Mason <_@gmail.com> wrote:


>Can you envisiage being able to offer more attractive pricing?

For wing walkers? :-)

JerseySpence

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:46:52 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 10:44 am, Jim Mason <_...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4a3541ef-fd75-441e-8623-454dc7115156
> @r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, spencerpryor2...@yahoo.co.uk says...

Self Loading Freight lol !!

YRCMIU

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:55:33 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 3, 11:42 pm, Jim Mason <_...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <f5ed9116-d029-4a48-96d3-ff54024ff6f9
> @y9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, spencerpryor2...@yahoo.co.uk says...

IIRC the Glasgow-Oban sea plane service is £150 return or thereabouts,
and it's 'city centre' to 'city centre' so to speak, add £2 car
parking at the Science Centre and I'd say all in that's pretty good
value.

Jim Mason

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:55:53 AM7/4/09
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In article <032adcfb-c815-4963-9165-2c97002f1f52
@h8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, spencerp...@yahoo.co.uk says...

I was wondering what Stiff Little Fingers had to do with Ryanair! Gotta
Gettaway could be a link I suppose?

Is North Connell fully functional after it's licencing problems Spencer?

And if you are going to fly from there you should look towards a local lad
as a pilot

http://tinyurl.com/ldadjz

he is currently in the States training for his commercial pilot badge.


Jim Mason

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:59:40 AM7/4/09
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In article <e020a1f5-1c25-4dbf-be92-
605da9...@y7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, bli...@btopenworld.com says...

Really? I could go back and forth in the train SIX times for that!

YRCMIU

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Jul 4, 2009, 6:03:24 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 10:59 am, Jim Mason <_...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <e020a1f5-1c25-4dbf-be92-
> 605da9ef6...@y7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, blim...@btopenworld.com says...

Time is money James, it's 22 mins Glasgow-Oban, the more affluent
among us would fly,

Jim Mason

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Jul 4, 2009, 6:21:57 AM7/4/09
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In article <0d5a4676-9da6-4402-998e-
5b3efc...@h8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, bli...@btopenworld.com says...


oh I have money I am just careful how I spend it!

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:38:07 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 02:46:52 -0700 (PDT), JerseySpence
<spencerp...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>> SLF??

>Self Loading Freight lol !!

Which most aviation guys would have known.

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:39:27 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:44:17 +0100, Jim Mason <_@gmail.com> wrote:

>>Interesting that Ryanair have announced an increase
>> in Stansted flights from PIK - gives us more connections... as long as
>> you don't mind Rayanir treating you as SLF....

>SLF??

Totally unbelievable you don't know that...

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:41:00 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:55:53 +0100, Jim Mason <_@gmail.com> wrote:


>Is North Connell fully functional after it's licencing problems Spencer?

The fact that you don't read aaue in it's entirety confirmed.

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:42:37 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:59:40 +0100, Jim Mason <_@gmail.com> wrote:


>> IIRC the Glasgow-Oban sea plane service is �150 return or thereabouts,
>> and it's 'city centre' to 'city centre' so to speak, add �2 car
>> parking at the Science Centre and I'd say all in that's pretty good
>> value.

>Really? I could go back and forth in the train SIX times for that!

So much for you encouraging Scottish aviation services.

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:44:19 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:21:57 +0100, Jim Mason <_@gmail.com> wrote:


>> > Really? I could go back and forth in the train SIX times for that!

>> Time is money James, it's 22 mins Glasgow-Oban, the more affluent
>> among us would fly,

>oh I have money I am just careful how I spend it!

Thank God for those who according to you are not careful.

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:47:17 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 02:55:33 -0700 (PDT), YRCMIU
<bli...@btopenworld.com> wrote:


>IIRC the Glasgow-Oban sea plane service is �150 return or thereabouts,
>and it's 'city centre' to 'city centre' so to speak, add �2 car
>parking at the Science Centre and I'd say all in that's pretty good
>value.

4 pax sharing the same car would be paying �602? Excellent value...

I wonder if Obanair have a minimum pax ruling?

Joe Curry

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:49:19 AM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:03:24 -0700 (PDT), YRCMIU
<bli...@btopenworld.com> wrote:


>> Really? I could go back and forth in the train SIX times for that!

>Time is money James, it's 22 mins Glasgow-Oban, the more affluent
>among us would fly,

What happened to the Glasgow-Lochgilphead helicopter service?

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