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John Doe
Jan 17, 2013, 3:40:48 PM1/17/13
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Try finding discussion of whether (pagefile.sys) is manipulated by
SSD wear leveling, and then get back to me about being technically
oriented. Until then, consider yourself a troll...
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> John Doe wrote:
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>> Rene Lamontagne <klamont shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Just can't waste time worrying about minor possibilities.
>>
>> Fine, but my post is meant for technically oriented users.
>
> Quite frankly, all technically oriented users will have laughed at your
> nonsense suggestion.
>
>
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SSD wear leveling, and then get back to me about being technically
oriented. Until then, consider yourself a troll...
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> John Doe wrote:
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>> Rene Lamontagne <klamont shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Just can't waste time worrying about minor possibilities.
>>
>> Fine, but my post is meant for technically oriented users.
>
> Quite frankly, all technically oriented users will have laughed at your
> nonsense suggestion.
>
>
>
John Doe
Jan 17, 2013, 4:59:55 PM1/17/13
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Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
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> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:43:59 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
> <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in article <kd9nqe$u0b$2 dont-
> email.me>...
>>
>> Anybody who's done any reading about SSDs knows about wear
>> leveling. But as any technically inclined user knows, an algorithm
>> doesn't always cover every base. The (pagefile.sys) is different
>> from practically every other file in Windows. I have searched
>> hard, but not found anything conclusive or authoritative about an
>> SSD handling (pagefile.sys).
>
> That's because (as any technically inclined user knows) pagefile.sys is
> a file. To the storage medium, a file is a file, no matter what
> purpose the OS puts it to. Wear leveling is done in the SSD firmware,
> which sees any file write the same as any other so wear leveling
> applies.
>
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> the Second, my grandfather Zaphod Beeblebrox the Third..."
>
> "What?"
>
> "There was an accident with a contraceptive and a time machine. Now
> concentrate!"
>
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
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> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:43:59 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
> <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in article <kd9nqe$u0b$2 dont-
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>>
>> Anybody who's done any reading about SSDs knows about wear
>> leveling. But as any technically inclined user knows, an algorithm
>> doesn't always cover every base. The (pagefile.sys) is different
>> from practically every other file in Windows. I have searched
>> hard, but not found anything conclusive or authoritative about an
>> SSD handling (pagefile.sys).
>
> That's because (as any technically inclined user knows) pagefile.sys is
> a file. To the storage medium, a file is a file, no matter what
> purpose the OS puts it to. Wear leveling is done in the SSD firmware,
> which sees any file write the same as any other so wear leveling
> applies.
>
> --
> Zaphod
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>
> "What?"
>
> "There was an accident with a contraceptive and a time machine. Now
> concentrate!"
>
John Doe
Jan 17, 2013, 5:05:57 PM1/17/13
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If this were a waste of time, it wouldn't generate so much
interest. I seriously doubt this thing really knows what it's
talking about...
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> sectors. Whenever a sector is written, wear-levelling can happen,
> regardless of whether the sector is part of a page file, a normal file,
> filesystem metadata or just random raw writes to the device.
>
>
>
interest. I seriously doubt this thing really knows what it's
talking about...
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> John Doe wrote:
>
>> Anybody who's done any reading about SSDs knows about wear
>> leveling. But as any technically inclined user knows, an algorithm
>> doesn't always cover every base. The (pagefile.sys) is different
>> from practically every other file in Windows.
>
> The SSD doesn't know or care about files, all it cares about are
> John Doe wrote:
>
>> Anybody who's done any reading about SSDs knows about wear
>> leveling. But as any technically inclined user knows, an algorithm
>> doesn't always cover every base. The (pagefile.sys) is different
>> from practically every other file in Windows.
>
> sectors. Whenever a sector is written, wear-levelling can happen,
> regardless of whether the sector is part of a page file, a normal file,
> filesystem metadata or just random raw writes to the device.
>
>> I have searched hard, but not found anything conclusive or
>> authoritative about an SSD handling (pagefile.sys).
>
> Have fun looking, you're wasting your time.
>> I have searched hard, but not found anything conclusive or
>> authoritative about an SSD handling (pagefile.sys).
>
>
>
>
Brandon Staggs
Jan 17, 2013, 7:21:23 PM1/17/13
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"John Doe" wrote on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC):
> Just because wear leveling
> is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
Actually that's exactly what it means. Instead of just guessing, why
> Just because wear leveling
> is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
not look up "static wear leveling" and read about it? Don't waste
your time deleting and moving files in hopes that you will by accident
do something better than your SSD is designed to do on purpose and by
default.
Look at it this way: let's say you have an almost-full SSD with a PE
cycle limit of 10,000 (to pick a number), how many times do you think
you have to "move" your page file to effectively handle wear leveling
on your own over, say, three years?
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John Doe
Jan 17, 2013, 9:18:46 PM1/17/13
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Spammer
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> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
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>> Try finding discussion of whether (pagefile.sys) is manipulated by
>> SSD wear leveling, and then get back to me about being technically
>> oriented. Until then, consider yourself a troll...
>>
> Are you on some sort of medication?
> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Try finding discussion of whether (pagefile.sys) is manipulated by
>> SSD wear leveling, and then get back to me about being technically
>> oriented. Until then, consider yourself a troll...
>>
>
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John Doe
Jan 17, 2013, 9:22:11 PM1/17/13
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I did with this troll said, I searched for
"static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"
And received a total of four results, none of them useful.
I wonder why so much interest from the UK.
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"static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"
And received a total of four results, none of them useful.
I wonder why so much interest from the UK.
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John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 2:11:07 AM1/18/13
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some troll
Mike Tomlinson <mike jasper.org.uk> wrote:
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>>On 1/17/2013 1:31 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>If
>>> you are computer illiterate, you should stick to asking questions.
>
> That's why you ask so many questions, then. Even the same question in
> two threads, starting the second thread because you didn't like the
> answers you were given in the first. You're clueless.
>
> --
> (\_/)
> (='.'=)
> (")_(")
>
>
Mike Tomlinson <mike jasper.org.uk> wrote:
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>>On 1/17/2013 1:31 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>If
>>> you are computer illiterate, you should stick to asking questions.
>
> That's why you ask so many questions, then. Even the same question in
> two threads, starting the second thread because you didn't like the
> answers you were given in the first. You're clueless.
>
> --
> (\_/)
> (='.'=)
> (")_(")
>
>
DevilsPGD
Jan 18, 2013, 2:56:51 AM1/18/13
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In the last episode of <kdasib$s0k$1...@dont-email.me>, John Doe
<jd...@usenetlove.invalid> said:
>some troll
And now you've forgotten how to quote. That's special.
--
The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have their own.
<jd...@usenetlove.invalid> said:
>some troll
And now you've forgotten how to quote. That's special.
--
The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have their own.
John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 4:36:37 AM1/18/13
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Silly troll
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> In the last episode of <kdasib$s0k$1 dont-email.me>, John Doe
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> In the last episode of <kdasib$s0k$1 dont-email.me>, John Doe
Brandon Staggs
Jan 18, 2013, 7:56:27 AM1/18/13
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"John Doe" wrote on Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:22:11 +0000 (UTC):
> I did with this troll said, I searched for
>
> "static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"
You don't get it. pagefile.sys is just more data on your drive. Why
> I did with this troll said, I searched for
>
> "static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"
would you expect your SSD to treat it differently than all of the
other data it automatically manages?
Mike Tomlinson
Jan 18, 2013, 9:13:14 AM1/18/13
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En el artículo <1uy3ok1t5o8vr$.ez6hsnej...@40tude.net>, Brandon
Staggs <nos...@nowhere.invalid> escribió:
>You don't get it.
Quite.
Staggs <nos...@nowhere.invalid> escribió:
>You don't get it.
Mark F
Jan 18, 2013, 1:09:59 PM1/18/13
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:56:27 -0600, Brandon Staggs
<nos...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> "John Doe" wrote on Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:22:11 +0000 (UTC):
>
> > I did with this troll said, I searched for
> >
> > "static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"
>
> You don't get it. pagefile.sys is just more data on your drive. Why
> would you expect your SSD to treat it differently than all of the
> other data it automatically manages?
I don't think that any SSD handle page files or swap files or
<nos...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> "John Doe" wrote on Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:22:11 +0000 (UTC):
>
> > I did with this troll said, I searched for
> >
> > "static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"
>
> You don't get it. pagefile.sys is just more data on your drive. Why
> would you expect your SSD to treat it differently than all of the
> other data it automatically manages?
hibernation files in any special way, but it is possible that an
operating system could use a TRIM operation to say that the current
contents of the file didn't matter before each time such a file
was opened for its normal use. [I'm not saying that this would
improve performance, but the idea might be used as a basis for
improved performance and it does ensure that normal access to the
SSD, even by privileged programs, couldn't see old data that was
in the various files.]
John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 1:51:39 PM1/18/13
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I think we can stop kicking a dead horse already.
Don't post something as if you knew, when in fact
yours was pure speculation.
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Brandon Staggs <nospam nowhere.invalid> wrote:
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Don't post something as if you knew, when in fact
yours was pure speculation.
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John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 1:54:19 PM1/18/13
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Kicking a dead horse, as if it's Luddite speculation
was sure to be fact...
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> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
> <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in article <kd9s8q$rje$1 dont-
> email.me>...
>
> Stripped extraneous newsgroups - again...
> the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
> *the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
> writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
> throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.
>
> --
> Zaphod
>
> If I had two heads like you, Zaphod,
> I could have hours of fun banging them against a wall.
> -Ford Prefect
>
>
was sure to be fact...
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> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
> <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in article <kd9s8q$rje$1 dont-
> email.me>...
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> Stripped extraneous newsgroups - again...
>
>>
>> Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
>> instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
>> language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
>> deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
>> is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
>
> OS talks to drivers, drivers talk to, wait for it, the firmware. In
>>
>> Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
>> instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
>> language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
>> deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
>> is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
>
> the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
> *the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
> writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
> throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.
>
> --
> Zaphod
>
> If I had two heads like you, Zaphod,
> I could have hours of fun banging them against a wall.
> -Ford Prefect
>
>
John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 7:24:01 PM1/18/13
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Any usefulness this thing's speculation might have had is pass�,
replaced with opinions from people who are much smarter and more
experienced.
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"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid> wrote:
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> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
replaced with opinions from people who are much smarter and more
experienced.
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> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:29:03 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
>> <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in article <kd9s8q$rje$1 dont-
>> email.me>...
>>
>> Stripped extraneous newsgroups - again...
>>
>>>
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:29:03 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
>> <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in article <kd9s8q$rje$1 dont-
>> email.me>...
>>
>> Stripped extraneous newsgroups - again...
>>
>>>
>>> Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
>>> instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
>>> language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
>>> deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
>>> is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
>>
>>> instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
>>> language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
>>> deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
>>> is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
>>
>> OS talks to drivers, drivers talk to, wait for it, the firmware. In
>> the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
>> *the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
>> writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
>> throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.
>
> Nice try, but those last three words will not work :-)
>> the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
>> *the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
>> writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
>> throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.
>
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 7:32:37 PM1/18/13
to
My speculation was no better than those who had never considered
the possibility that (pagefile.sys) might be treated differently
by SSD wear leveling.
I reposted under a different subject because the prior thread was
filled almost entirely with idiots and/or trolls that completely
missed the point. Talking about half-literate nym-shifting trolls
like this thing, that should read my original post and notice the
question mark in the first paragraph...
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> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:56:00 +0000, John Doe wrote:
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>> It's already been resolved, you can stop the hindsight quarterbacking
>> already...
>
> Resolved as in "John Doe was wrong?"
> Let's see if you'll say it...
>
>
the possibility that (pagefile.sys) might be treated differently
by SSD wear leveling.
I reposted under a different subject because the prior thread was
filled almost entirely with idiots and/or trolls that completely
missed the point. Talking about half-literate nym-shifting trolls
like this thing, that should read my original post and notice the
question mark in the first paragraph...
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> From: David <no spam.please>
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
> Subject: Re: Increase the performance and lifespan of your SSD
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:40:26 +0000 (UTC)
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> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:56:00 +0000, John Doe wrote:
>
>> It's already been resolved, you can stop the hindsight quarterbacking
>> already...
>
> Resolved as in "John Doe was wrong?"
> Let's see if you'll say it...
>
>
John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 8:51:00 PM1/18/13
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"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid> wrote:
> John Doe wrote:
>
>> Any usefulness this thing's speculation might have had is
>> pass�, replaced with opinions from people who are much smarter
>> and more experienced.
>
> This poster needs to learn how to post.
>
>> Any usefulness this thing's speculation might have had is
>> pass�, replaced with opinions from people who are much smarter
>> and more experienced.
>
Says a complete newbie.
> He put his whole reply after his sig delimiter,
Wrong. I put this thing's whole reply after my signature
delimiter.
> which is why it was automatically greyed out in my newsreader
> and also why it automatically disappeared in my reply.
It wasn't worth reading.
> He also seems to have changed fonts to something pretty much
> unreadable, but I fixed that.
That's just na�ve. Nobody with any experience using a computer on
the Internet would suggest that. Your client determines your font.
Something like that might have to do with encoding, but it has
nothing to do with me.
If you need help with posting, or help with understanding other
people's posts, ask in an appropriate group.
--
> I also followed ZB's lead in limiting the crossposting.
>
> As for this poster's opinion, I smile wryly :-)
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
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> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
> From: "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid>
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-8
> Subject: Re: Increase the performance and lifespan of your SSD
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:05:04 -0800
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John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 10:26:35 PM1/18/13
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Nil <rednoise REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid> wrote
>
>> My earlier impressions of you in this NG were not totally
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid> wrote
>
>> positive. Finally, though, things have changed.
>
> What took you so long?
Not that it matters, but... Now your impressions of me are totally
positive, Nildo?
> I think most people realized it months or years ago.
Realized that you are a regular troll, Nildo.
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> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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John Doe
Jan 18, 2013, 10:28:30 PM1/18/13
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Looks like a Nildo is on a drunken trolling spree...
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> On 18 Jan 2013, John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
> alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:
> in this very thread??
> in this very thread??
>
>
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> On 18 Jan 2013, John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
> alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:
>
>> I think we can stop kicking a dead horse already.
>
> Oh, my God - did he really say that, after what he himself said earlier
>> I think we can stop kicking a dead horse already.
>
> in this very thread??
>
>> Don't post something as if you knew, when in fact
>> yours was pure speculation.
>
> Oh, my God - did he really say that, after what he himself said earlier
>> Don't post something as if you knew, when in fact
>> yours was pure speculation.
>
> in this very thread??
>
>
John Doe
Jan 19, 2013, 1:59:54 PM1/19/13
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Wonder why so many trolls from the United Kingdom...
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> En el art¡culo <alglf8pgikf3jlsu9amfrr40dj2klgh59g 4ax.com>, Robin
> Bignall <docrobin ntlworld.com> escribi¢:
>
>>The advice was not appreciated so he remains there.
>
> You're not missing much.
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Mike Tomlinson <mike jasper.org.uk> wrote:
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> En el art¡culo <alglf8pgikf3jlsu9amfrr40dj2klgh59g 4ax.com>, Robin
> Bignall <docrobin ntlworld.com> escribi¢:
>
>>The advice was not appreciated so he remains there.
>
> You're not missing much.
John Doe
Jan 19, 2013, 10:24:52 PM1/19/13
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"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid> wrote:
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid> wrote
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid> wrote
>>> My earlier impressions of you in this NG were not totally
>>> positive. Finally, though, things have changed.
> I was having fun wording my remark that way :-)
>>> positive. Finally, though, things have changed.
It's simply gibberish, from the same half-literate troll that says
I'm responsible for how its fonts look...
--
>
> Now I get to read his reply to the above. I can wait. Oops. I meant
> *hardly* wait.
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
>
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> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
>
> From: "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me other.invalid>
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.os.windows-8
> Subject: Re: Increase the performance and lifespan of your SSD
> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:33:13 -0800
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Yousuf Khan
Jan 20, 2013, 12:08:00 AM1/20/13
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On 17/01/2013 4:59 PM, John Doe wrote:
> Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
> instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
> language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
> deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
> is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
Now you're just being a troll, believe what you want, I think you'll
> Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
> instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
> language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
> deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
> is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.
find nobody will respond any further to you.
Yousuf Khan
John Doe
Jan 20, 2013, 12:43:12 AM1/20/13
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Drunk? Otherwise it might have noticed several of my posts already
acknowledging the opinions of more knowledgeable and experienced
posters...
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67 spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 17/01/2013 3:43 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> Anybody who's done any reading about SSDs knows about wear
>> leveling. But as any technically inclined user knows, an algorithm
>> doesn't always cover every base. The (pagefile.sys) is different
>> from practically every other file in Windows. I have searched
> doesn't that clue you in that there's no issue here? You have convinced
> yourself about the special "nature" of this one particular file, and
> won't accept any answers that contradict your preconceived notions?
>
> There is nothing special about the pagefile.sys below the OS level. At
> the SSD hardware level this is just some more data, like anything else,
> it doesn't treat it specially, in fact it doesn't even know how to treat
> any files specially, that's too high-level for it to understand.
>
> Yousuf Khan
>
> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:02:09 -0500
> From: Yousuf Khan <bbbl67 spammenot.yahoo.com>
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acknowledging the opinions of more knowledgeable and experienced
posters...
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67 spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 17/01/2013 3:43 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> Anybody who's done any reading about SSDs knows about wear
>> leveling. But as any technically inclined user knows, an algorithm
>> doesn't always cover every base. The (pagefile.sys) is different
>> hard, but not found anything conclusive or authoritative about an
>> SSD handling (pagefile.sys).
>
> So the fact that there's no one else that's asking this question,
>> SSD handling (pagefile.sys).
>
> doesn't that clue you in that there's no issue here? You have convinced
> yourself about the special "nature" of this one particular file, and
> won't accept any answers that contradict your preconceived notions?
>
> There is nothing special about the pagefile.sys below the OS level. At
> the SSD hardware level this is just some more data, like anything else,
> it doesn't treat it specially, in fact it doesn't even know how to treat
> any files specially, that's too high-level for it to understand.
>
> Yousuf Khan
>
> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:02:09 -0500
> From: Yousuf Khan <bbbl67 spammenot.yahoo.com>
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John Doe
Jan 20, 2013, 12:45:58 AM1/20/13
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In fact, I haven't said anything in this thread
to even suggest that my beliefs are unchangeable.
All of the posturing and chest thumping has come
from others, like this drunk...
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to even suggest that my beliefs are unchangeable.
All of the posturing and chest thumping has come
from others, like this drunk...
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David
Jan 24, 2013, 5:49:06 AM1/24/13
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At Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:08:00 -0500, Yousuf Khan rearranged some electrons
to write:
> On 17/01/2013 4:59 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> Firmware shmirmware.
>
> On 17/01/2013 4:59 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> Firmware shmirmware.
>
> Now you're just being a troll, believe what you want, I think you'll
> find nobody will respond any further to you.
>
> Yousuf Khan
I've now got him in the same category as Skybuck.
> find nobody will respond any further to you.
>
> Yousuf Khan
Mike Tomlinson
Jan 24, 2013, 9:06:17 AM1/24/13
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In article <kdr3j2$pa2$1...@dont-email.me>, David <n...@spam.please> writes
>I've now got him in the same category as Skybuck.
But less entertaining.
>I've now got him in the same category as Skybuck.
Rene Lamontagne
Jan 24, 2013, 9:29:48 AM1/24/13
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On 1/24/2013 8:06 AM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
> In article <kdr3j2$pa2$1...@dont-email.me>, David <n...@spam.please> writes
>
>> I've now got him in the same category as Skybuck.
>
> But less entertaining.
>
They must be related,
> In article <kdr3j2$pa2$1...@dont-email.me>, David <n...@spam.please> writes
>
>> I've now got him in the same category as Skybuck.
>
> But less entertaining.
>
Buck and Doe
John Doe
Jan 24, 2013, 11:07:45 AM1/24/13
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A grand total of five posts to UseNet under this ID...
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> On 1/24/2013 8:06 AM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
>> In article <kdr3j2$pa2$1 dont-email.me>, David <no spam.please> writes
> On 1/24/2013 8:06 AM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
John Doe
Jan 24, 2013, 11:18:42 AM1/24/13
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Mike Tomlinson <mike jasper.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <kdr3j2$pa2$1 dont-email.me>, David <no spam.please>
> In article <kdr3j2$pa2$1 dont-email.me>, David <no spam.please>
> writes
>
>>I've now got him in the same category as Skybuck.
>
> But less entertaining.
That's right. You troll me and I'll guarantee it's not going to be
>
>>I've now got him in the same category as Skybuck.
>
> But less entertaining.
fun, unless you're a masochist...
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Jan 24, 2013, 11:45:23 AM1/24/13
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