David Horn cries like a baby!
horne...@yahoo.com
cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
Its me Angelo and no I am not a member of the Mafia, but I am from New
York. I live near Lake Champlain Vermont in upper New York. Vermont is
about a hour drive from me. You have to imagine how boring life must be
living in the country there.
More to come from the archives of Usenet and the Internet that this
liar does not want public.
Its interesting to watch this crybaby cry and acuse me of being my
cousin all at the fact that he is about to be exposed for the fake that
he is on Usenet.
Notice his reaction? He has much from the public Internet archives that
he does not want in public.
Angelo
Grinder
> My cousin has told me of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
> cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
>
> Its me Angelo and no I am not a member of the Mafia, but I am from New
> York. I live near Lake Champlain Vermont in upper New York. Vermont is
> about a hour drive from me. You have to imagine how boring life must be
> living in the country there.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.62.247.73 (San Mateo, CA)
It must be expensive dialing up to California from upstate New York.
Lizzardwoman
"Grinder" <gri...@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:veJHg.108545$FQ1.88742@attbi_s71...
Sometimes it's hard to believe Wolf is not putting us on. Just when we
think we've plumbed the abyss of cluelessness, Wolf outdoes himself. It's
so far pegged to the ridiculous that I keep expecting him to come clean and
say the John Wolf thing was a parody all along. I mean can people who are
like that IRL operate on a day today basis? I don't know.
--
sharon, aa #2153
"(of creationism) ... Only apocryphal tales told by goat herders around the
campfire after it became too dark to continue to molest their charges." --
TvG (Rec.Equestrian, 2003)
"Easy -- he's the Right Reverend Admiral Jason Gastrich, BSc, MSc, DVM, ThD,
PhD, MD, JD, Esq, US Navy (Ret). If the bible happened to put things in the
wrong order, well, our boy the Doctor will just fix it right up there!" --
Rightshu (IIDB, 2004)
Gregory A Greenman
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, horne...@yahoo.com
<horne...@yahoo.com> declared...
Bible John,
You know, I've always felt alot of sympathy for you because I
felt that you didn't mean ill, you just had some mental problems
that prevented you from seeing the real world. But, I'm sorry,
this is just too far. You need to consult your psychiatrist and
let him know what you've done. Threatening people's lives is not
behaviour that should be tolerated from anyone, no matter what
emotional problems they may be suffering from.
--
Greg
----
http://www.spencerbooksellers.com
greg00 -at- spencersoft -dot- com
{Whösöever}
Gregory A Greenman wrote:
> Bible John,
> You know, I've always felt alot of sympathy for you because I
> felt that you didn't mean ill, you just had some mental problems
> that prevented you from seeing the real world. But, I'm sorry,
> this is just too far. You need to consult your psychiatrist and
> let him know what you've done. Threatening people's lives is not
> behaviour that should be tolerated from anyone, no matter what
> emotional problems they may be suffering from.
John Wolf (birthdate 09/02/77) knows exactly what he's doing. Read the
following:
> > From: Bible John
> > Date: Sat, Jul 22 2006 12:37 am
> > Email: "Bible John" <johnw_94...@yahoo.com>
> > Groups: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.unix.misc, microsoft.public.pocketpc,
> > free.christians
> > I can cry
> > psyco when I want too and people will believe me.
He's no minister - he's a con man playing all of us and now attempting
to play the worldwide web with "CERM". He's a immature child, a
pretend Christian, and a wannabe Jason Gastrich.
We would all do well to totally ignore him - that's the only thing that
will make him go away.
Grinder
> Gregory A Greenman wrote:
>> Bible John,
>> You know, I've always felt alot of sympathy for you because I
>> felt that you didn't mean ill, you just had some mental problems
>> that prevented you from seeing the real world. But, I'm sorry,
>> this is just too far. You need to consult your psychiatrist and
>> let him know what you've done. Threatening people's lives is not
>> behaviour that should be tolerated from anyone, no matter what
>> emotional problems they may be suffering from.
>
> John Wolf (birthdate 09/02/77) knows exactly what he's doing. Read the
> following:
>
>>> From: Bible John
>>> Date: Sat, Jul 22 2006 12:37 am
>>> Email: "Bible John" <johnw_94...@yahoo.com>
>>> Groups: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.unix.misc, microsoft.public.pocketpc,
>>> free.christians
>
>>> I can cry
>>> psyco when I want too and people will believe me.
>
> He's no minister - he's a con man playing all of us and now attempting
> to play the worldwide web with "CERM".
Surely there's a point where gross ineptitude excludes you from a
category in spite of your intent? ie, If your a really bad at it, can
you still be called a con man?
Grinder
If you *are* really bad at it...
Dave
> My cousin has told me of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
> cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
I'm still not clear on what, exactly, has been exposed. But it is
hilarious to watch "Angelo" backpedal, as we see here:
> Its me Angelo and no I am not a member of the Mafia...
In his very first message in these groups, "Angelo" wrote, "my name is
Angelo Millsap and I am from New York and a member of the Mafia there."
Well, which is true? Is "Angelo" a member of the Mafia or not?
> ...but I am from New York. I live near Lake Champlain Vermont
> in upper New York. Vermont is about a hour drive from me.
Ssssoooo...he lives in Lake Champlain, Vermont, which is in upper New
York, about an hour drive from Vermont...?
When one constructs a lie, and is as inept as John Wolf, sometimes even
the simplest details can be a bit of a challenge.
> You have to imagine how boring life must be living in the country
> there.
How often have we heard Wolf make these same kinds of complaints?
> More to come from the archives of Usenet and the Internet that this
> liar does not want public.
Be still, my heart...
> Its interesting to watch this crybaby cry and acuse me of being my
> cousin all at the fact that he is about to be exposed for the fake that
> he is on Usenet.
So we have a fake accusing me of being a fake. There's little more
amusing than that.
> Notice his reaction? He has much from the public Internet archives that
> he does not want in public.
If I'm worried about anything being public, why would allow it to
appear in the "public Internet archives?"
Enkidu
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
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Address: 4665 Lampson Avenue
City: Los Alamitos
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90720
Country: US
Your IP tells a different tale.
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OrgID: CSU
Address: 4665 Lampson Avenue
City: Los Alamitos
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PostalCode: 90720
Country: US
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Civilised men arrived in the Pacific armed with alcohol, syphilis,
trousers and the Bible."
Just Mark
How many people *could* have been helped by the "effort" you wasted on
this guy?
{Whösöever}
Just Mark wrote:
> "Comes the dawn."
You're a jerk, Just Mark. And I didn't just figure that out.
> How many people *could* have been helped by the "effort" you wasted on
> this guy?
Gee, I don't know...maybe the ones that I *have* helped while
simultaneously trying to help John Wolf. And don't be so quick to
judge whether anything I've said here hasn't helped Wolf - only time
will tell. We may never know the truth; I don't have a problem with
that, do you?
Oh yeah, I guess you do since you're the
I-told-you-so-know-it-all-who-thinks-he's-smarter-than-the-rest-of-us
kinda guy who slides in and out of these groups making judgements about
people and situations he actually knows nothing about.
Just Mark
> Just Mark wrote:
>> "Comes the dawn."
>
> You're a jerk, Just Mark. And I didn't just figure that out.
...she said, as if she had any credibility as a judge of character.
>
>> How many people *could* have been helped by the "effort" you wasted on
>> this guy?
>
> Gee, I don't know...maybe the ones that I *have* helped while
> simultaneously trying to help John Wolf.
Riiiight.... [you Christians]
> And don't be so quick to
> judge whether anything I've said here hasn't helped Wolf - only time
> will tell. We may never know the truth; I don't have a problem with
> that, do you?
That sad re-frame may fool you, but it doesn't buy back the time and
effort you wasted.
>
> Oh yeah, I guess you do since you're the
> I-told-you-so-know-it-all-who-thinks-he's-smarter-than-the-rest-of-us
> kinda guy who slides in and out of these groups making judgements about
> people and situations he actually knows nothing about.
>
Feeling a bit anxious? Two sentences from me, and you have a melt-down.
That you can't cope with the "zero-return" reality of your investment
has nothing to do with what I know or don't know...nor my posting
frequency...nor my perspective on people like Wolf. No, Kelly: that's
coming from somewhere inside you, and you'll have to figure it out for
yourself.
{Whösöever}
Just Mark wrote:
> ...she said, as if she had any credibility as a judge of character.
Ask Dave Horn what my character judgements reveal.
Oh, and you're still a jerk.
> Riiiight.... [you Christians]
Fact is, you don't know me (I feel like I'm repeating myself to you
here), and you know nothing about my life and what I do personally nor
professionally.
> That sad re-frame may fool you, but it doesn't buy back the time and
> effort you wasted.
Sad, huh? I guess labeling it that makes *you* feel superior...
> Feeling a bit anxious?
Not in the least.
> Two sentences from me, and you have a melt-down.
Funny, I have friends in the nuclear power industry and your descriptor
"melt-down" comes nowhere close to what I wrote.
> That you can't cope with the "zero-return" reality of your investment
> has nothing to do with what I know or don't know...nor my posting
> frequency...nor my perspective on people like Wolf. No, Kelly: that's
> coming from somewhere inside you, and you'll have to figure it out for
> yourself.
This is what those who lack salvation by faith through grace don't get
and never will until face-to-face with Jesus the Christ:
Immediate satisfaction is no longer a priority for born-again
Christians because we know that there is a God and that we have an
eternity to spend with Him. Whether or not my efforts with Wolf were
of any consequence in the here and now makes no difference to me. When
I stand in judgement before my Heavenly Father with His Son Jesus
beside me I will know one way or the other. The possibility of wasted
time isn't even a consideration for me because I still know where my
heart was and is.
JohnH
> Just Mark wrote:
> > "Comes the dawn."
>
> You're a jerk, Just Mark. And I didn't just figure that out.
>
even bitch)? Or will you now say that you know him (or had even known
her)?
>
> > How many people *could* have been helped by the "effort" you wasted on
> > this guy?
>
> Gee, I don't know...maybe the ones that I *have* helped while
> simultaneously trying to help John Wolf. And don't be so quick to
> judge whether anything I've said here hasn't helped Wolf - only time
> will tell. We may never know the truth; I don't have a problem with
> that, do you?
>
attributed nothing to God? Amazing! Why is that? Or do you believe
that everyone here will just trust that a still practicing homosexual
christian is actually obeying and honoring God?
"And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God
gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not
proper" (Romans 1:28).
>
> Oh yeah, I guess you do since you're the
> I-told-you-so-know-it-all-who-thinks-he's-smarter-than-the-rest-of-us
> kinda guy who slides in and out of these groups making judgements about
> people and situations he actually knows nothing about.
>
You have never met most of the people that you have judged here on
Usenet, so how is it now possible that you know more about others off
the Internet than what others have also learned about you from the
Internet?
Just Mark
> Just Mark wrote:
>> ...she said, as if she had any credibility as a judge of character.
>
> Ask Dave Horn what my character judgements reveal.
>
> Oh, and you're still a jerk.
>
>> Riiiight.... [you Christians]
>
> Fact is, you don't know me (I feel like I'm repeating myself to you
> here), and you know nothing about my life and what I do personally nor
> professionally.
That's right. All I see is what you present of yourself here. My
responses to you are based solely upon that. Have you considered
whether or not your actions here accurately represent who you really are?
>
>> That sad re-frame may fool you, but it doesn't buy back the time and
>> effort you wasted.
>
> Sad, huh? I guess labeling it that makes *you* feel superior...
Yes, sad. It's sad because you're the only who's buying it, but you
won't let go of it. By the way, does labeling people make *you* feel
superior? You're awfully adept at it. You might take note that
*you're* the one who keeps bringing up the idea of "power" here.
And no, I get nothing out of my label except further confirmation of a
hypothesis.
>
>> Feeling a bit anxious?
>
> Not in the least.
So...that cathartic rant was premeditated? I wonder what your crack
character-judging skills suggest about that data.
>
>> Two sentences from me, and you have a melt-down.
>
> Funny, I have friends in the nuclear power industry and your descriptor
> "melt-down" comes nowhere close to what I wrote.
You're not a nuclear reactor. You're a human being; a human being whose
high level of emotional reactivity has control of you. I wrote two --
count 'em, two -- sentences, and you spewed bile all over your keyboard.
It was either a melt-down, or a shameful revelation. If the
latter, as you suggest, then I'm just embarrassed for you.
>
>> That you can't cope with the "zero-return" reality of your investment
>> has nothing to do with what I know or don't know...nor my posting
>> frequency...nor my perspective on people like Wolf. No, Kelly: that's
>> coming from somewhere inside you, and you'll have to figure it out for
>> yourself.
>
> This is what those who lack salvation by faith through grace don't get
> and never will until face-to-face with Jesus the Christ:
Again, with the labels...
>
> Immediate satisfaction is no longer a priority for born-again
> Christians because we know that there is a God and that we have an
> eternity to spend with Him. Whether or not my efforts with Wolf were
> of any consequence in the here and now makes no difference to me. When
> I stand in judgement before my Heavenly Father with His Son Jesus
> beside me I will know one way or the other. The possibility of wasted
> time isn't even a consideration for me because I still know where my
> heart was and is.
>
I'm not talking about *your* satisfaction, or whether your heart's in
the right place, or what difference it makes to *you*. No, I'm talking
about efficacy. I'm talking about what's good for the other you're
attempting to help. It's too bad that an ordained minister cannot grasp
that simple principle, but it's not surprising. The Christian system is
very self-centered.
{Whösöever}
Feel better now?
John Baker
wrote:
Your lack of a response is duly noted.
ujb
> x-no-archive: yes
> On 25 Aug 2006 13:30:17 -0700, horne...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Š 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
> author
>> My cousin has told me of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
>> cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
>
>
> tsk tsk
>
> Do you TRULY think you are fooling ANYONE?
>
> You aren't! And you CONTINUE to discredit the real Christian community
> with these INFANTILE antics!
acts like you doesn't he daddy! He has his Angelo (the hit man), you
have your Ben (the pedophile).
Bible John is just like you, and you also went by the nick of "Bible
John"! Just like u!
{Whösöever}
John Baker wrote:
> Your lack of a response is duly noted.
Well, la-dee-frickin'-da!
John Baker, huh?
Never seen you in the Christian groups before - at least as "John
Baker".
Therefore...
Why do you suddenly care about my responses - responsive or otherwise?
Hmmm...
Dave
> My cousin has told me of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
> cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
>
And, as explained, "Angelo" claimed to be a member of the Mafia in his
first message. He, he denies it. He *lied*.
> Its interesting to watch this crybaby cry and acuse me of being my
> cousin all at the fact that he is about to be exposed for the fake that
> he is on Usenet.
>
> Notice his reaction? He has much from the public Internet archives that
> he does not want in public.
So far, the only thing that Wolf has posted was my old address, which
was not a mystery to anyone, as far as I know. We're still waiting for
all of this good gossip from the "Internet archives," including the
evidence that I was fired from my last three jobs.
Let's not hold our collective breath waiting for that. Wolf is a liar
and, as such, is a fraud. He's no Christian, and should not be running
a "ministry." Maybe that's why it's been such a colossal failure, so
far.
Just Mark
Again, a response which attempts to focus on you and make you superior.
It really is about "power" for you. Isn't it?
Just Mark
Nah. She responded exactly as she wanted to respond. For Kelly, this
forum is a power struggle, and she thinks she's being clever with this
silly little phrase.
Robibnikoff
<horne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156537816....@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> My cousin has told me of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
> cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
>
> Its me Angelo and no I am not a member of the Mafia, but I am from New
> York. I live near Lake Champlain Vermont in upper New York. Vermont is
> about a hour drive from me. You have to imagine how boring life must be
> living in the country there.
If that is actually where you live (and I doubt it), it's quite beautiful
and certainly not boring.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
#1557
Robibnikoff
"john w @yoo.how>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
news:c1e0f290f9h79m6el...@4ax.com...
> x-no-archive: yes
> On 25 Aug 2006 18:40:19 -0700, "Dave" <hor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Š 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
> author
>>> My cousin has told me of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
>>> cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
>>
>>I'm still not clear on what, exactly, has been exposed. But it is
>>hilarious to watch "Angelo" backpedal, as we see here:
>>
>>> Its me Angelo and no I am not a member of the Mafia...
>>
>>In his very first message in these groups, "Angelo" wrote, "my name is
>>Angelo Millsap and I am from New York and a member of the Mafia there."
>>
>>Well, which is true? Is "Angelo" a member of the Mafia or not?
>
> open the "discussion" or in BJ's case, the "monologue" with a totally
> RIDICULOUS remark, and then come back and clarify!
LOL - So spews the idiot that wouldn't know a sense of humor if it bit him
on the ass.
Robibnikoff
"john w @yoo.how>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
> x-no-archive: yes
> On 25 Aug 2006 13:30:17 -0700, horne...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Š 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
> author
>>cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
>
>
> tsk tsk
>
> Do you TRULY think you are fooling ANYONE?
What? Funny, but a couple of posts ago, you were defending his behavior
saying it was his sense of humor. Now you're criticizing him for it? Make
up your mind.
NOs...@no.spam
But Robyn- he has to HAVE A MIND to make up, first! :O)
Dave
> <horne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1156537816....@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > My cousin has told me of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
> > cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
> >
> > Its me Angelo and no I am not a member of the Mafia, but I am from New
> > York. I live near Lake Champlain Vermont in upper New York. Vermont is
> > about a hour drive from me. You have to imagine how boring life must be
> > living in the country there.
>
> If that is actually where you live (and I doubt it), it's quite beautiful
> and certainly not boring.
Agreed. However, since this is Wolf (not "Angelo"), and he's pretty
shallow-minded, it's not surprising to see this kind of commentary.
Wolf has been to the Lake Champlain area, as evidenced by his former
web site. He lived in the Shasta area of California (and now claims to
live in the Bay Area). These are all areas of striking natural beauty.
Go figure that Wolf would not be able to appreciate that.
Dave
>>My cousin chastisesme of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
>>cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
>
> B J! Why do you do this?
>
> tsk tsk
>
> Do you TRULY think you are fooling ANYONE?
>
> You aren't! And you CONTINUE to discredit the real Christian community
> with these INFANTILE antics!
On the one hand, Weatherly chastizes Wolf for what he calls "INFANTILE
antics," but elsewhere, when responding to me, he tells me that Wolf is
being clever. Interesting how that standard changes, isn't it?
--
"In the truest sense, freedom cannot be bestowed. It must be achieved." -
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Dave
>>horne...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> My cousin has told me of this whiner and it's interesting to watch him
>>> cry like a 2 year old at the fact of being exposed.
>>
>>I'm still not clear on what, exactly, has been exposed. But it is
>>hilarious to watch "Angelo" backpedal, as we see here:
>>
>>> Its me Angelo and no I am not a member of the Mafia...
>>
>>In his very first message in these groups, "Angelo" wrote, "my name is
>>Angelo Millsap and I am from New York and a member of the Mafia there."
>>
>>Well, which is true? Is "Angelo" a member of the Mafia or not?
>
> You are obviously not familiar with his "form of humor". Which is to
> open the "discussion" or in BJ's case, the "monologue" with a totally
> RIDICULOUS remark, and then come back and clarify!
>
> "Hi, everybody! My father's a sheep dog!"
>
> pause....
>
> "Well, actually, he's not really a sheep dog! He just acts like one
> sometimes!"
>
> The first remark was not a lie. The 2nd remark explained the first.
>
> You hear stand-up comics do this all the time.
Isn't it interesting how Weatherly called these "INFANTILE antics" when
responding to Wolf, but wants to respond to me and try to tell me that Wolf
is being clever--something he's certainly never said of Wolf in the past.
The fact is that Wolf lied. His reputation is quite well-known with respect
to his use of many, many sign-on names and his tendencies to target others
for whatever "abuse" he may wish to heap upon them while using those
sign-on names. And Wolf's ridiculous remark was not an example of comedic
cleverness, but an example of a claim from which he backpedalled once it
was exposed.