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Oh fuck not again. You can say what you want about me but I don't want
another massacre in the gaza strip to happen.

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> Israeli jets attack Gaza, 7 Palestinians injured
> Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:55:46 GMT
>
> Israeli jets have carried out air strikes against targets in
> the Gaza Strip, injuring seven Palestinians.
>
> On Sunday, Palestinian medical workers and witnesses said
> other areas targeted by Israeli planes included a caravan in
> the northern Gaza Strip and smuggling tunnels in the south
> under the border with Egypt, the New York Times reported.
>
> In addition, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported
> that Israeli gunboats were approaching the coast of Gaza.
>
> The attacks occurred one day after Hamas said it had reached
> an agreement with smaller armed groups in the territory to
> halt sporadic rocket fire toward Israel.
>
> In July, the Israeli military offensive into the
> impoverished Palestinian coastal sliver, dubbed Operation
> Cast Lead, claimed the lives of over 1,400 people and
> injured many others.
>
> According to UN figures, a large number of the victims were
> civilians, including women and children.
>
> SG/SS/HGL
> http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=111869&sectionid=351020202
>
> '2009 was bloodiest year for Israeli war machine'
> Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:26:33 GMT
>
> Palestinian fathers holding their dead children
> http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091121/naderian20091121223812953.jpg
>
> Israeli aggression has resulted in the death of more
> Palestinians this year than in any other year over the past
> two decades, says an Israeli rights group.
>
> The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the
> Occupied Territories, B'Tselem, published a report notifying
> that Israeli aggression had killed 1,387 Palestinians
> including more than 300 children so far this year.
>
> Most of the deaths occurred after Tel Aviv ordered three
> weeks of unabated aerial and artillery bombardment of the
> Gaza Strip at the turn of the year.
>
> Medical sources put the number of deaths from the attacks at
> more than 1,400.
>
> Overall Palestinian deaths due to aggression over the past
> 20 years added up to nearly 7,400 the report said, adding
> that hundreds of Palestinians are currently illegally
> incarcerated in Israeli jails.
>
> The group issued the report on its 20th anniversary, which
> it announced through an obituary-like advertisement in the
> mass-circulation Israeli daily Haaretz.
>
> "We are fed up and people are fed up of us, but four million
> people [who] live in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are to
> this day deprived of their most basic human rights," it
> said.
>
> HN/MMN/HGL
> http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=111862&sectionid=351020202
> --
> A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
> But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
> for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
> and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
> if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
> But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
> If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that
> darkness!
> Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
> and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is
> light.

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>>
>>> Israeli jets attack Gaza, 7 Palestinians injured
>>> Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:55:46 GMT
>>>
>>> Israeli jets have carried out air strikes against targets in
>>> the Gaza Strip, injuring seven Palestinians.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, Palestinian medical workers and witnesses said
>>> other areas targeted by Israeli planes included a caravan in
>>> the northern Gaza Strip and smuggling tunnels in the south
>>> under the border with Egypt, the New York Times reported.
>>>
>>> In addition, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported
>>> that Israeli gunboats were approaching the coast of Gaza.
>>>
>>> The attacks occurred one day after Hamas said it had reached
>>> an agreement with smaller armed groups in the territory to
>>> halt sporadic rocket fire toward Israel.
>

>> Oh fuck not again.
>
> Nice of YOU to say so, I suppose.
> Cold comfort though to The People under SIEGE!
>
Yeah I know but what can I do for the people who are constantly being
terrorized by Israel?

> I notice "pk" still expresses no remorse over the
> treatment of the Palestinian People by the Israeli jews who
> have them under siege and who CLAIM: God gave them "the land" and yet:
> These Sons of Japheth, these "Gomers" these German Ashkenazi Jews have
> neither the original copy of The Ten Commandments nor the
> fragments of the original Ten Commandments to offer towards
> PROOF of their EXTRAORDINARY SELF-SERVING claims.
>
> Who was it that said: EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE:
> EXTRAORDINARY PROOF?
>
> On chosen ones:
> Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve,
> and one of you is a devil? John ch6 v70
> I guess it kind of depends on what one was chosen for as to how
> SPECIAL it is to be: CHOSEN! (Jesus was a Jew and so was Judas.)
>
> Divide And Conquer?
>
> Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham,
> and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
> The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan,
> and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer;
> Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan;
> Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
> By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands;
> every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
> Genesis ch10 v1-5
>
> Fragments of Memories:
> Discovery of Khazar capital unearths more about Ashkenazi Jews
>
> September 21, 2008 at 1:20 pm (ADD, ADHD, Balfour Declaration,
> Bible, Bloodlines, Christianity, Conspiracies, Hebrew, History,
> Islam, Israel, Judaism, Khazar Empire, Khazaria, Life, Mass
> Conditioning, News, Ottoman empire, Politics, Religion, Sheeple,
> Suspicious activity, Torah, Traditional Jews, doctrine)
> (Arthur Koestler, Ashkenazi Jews, capital of Khazaria, Israel,
> Judaism, Khazarian empire, News, Russia, Semites,
> The Thirteenth Tribe, Turks)
>
> Scholar claims to find medieval Jewish capital
>
> By MANSUR MIROVALEV, Associated Press Writer Sat Sep 20,
> 2:13 PM ET
>
> MOSCOW - A Russian archaeologist says he has found the lost
> capital of the Khazars, a powerful nation that adopted
> Judaism as its official religion more than 1,000 years ago,
> only to disappear leaving little trace of its culture.
>
> Dmitry Vasilyev, a professor at Astrakhan State University,
> said his nine-year excavation near the Caspian Sea has
> finally unearthed the foundations of a triangular fortress
> of flamed brick, along with modest yurt-shaped dwellings,
> and he believes these are part of what was once Itil, the
> Khazar capital.
>
> By law Khazars could use flamed bricks only in the capital,
> Vasilyev said. The general location of the city on the Silk
> Road was confirmed in medieval chronicles by Arab, Jewish
> and European authors.
>
> "The discovery of the capital of Eastern Europe's first
> feudal state is of great significance," he told The
> Associated Press. "We should view it as part of Russian
> history."
>
> Kevin Brook, the American author of "The Jews of Khazaria,"
> e-mailed Wednesday that he has followed the Itil dig over
> the years, and even though it has yielded no Jewish
> artifacts, "Now I'm as confident as the archaeological team
> is that they've truly found the long-lost city,
>
> The Khazars were a Turkic tribe that roamed the steppes from
> Northern China to the Black Sea. Between the 7th and 10th
> centuries they conquered huge swaths of what is now southern
> Russia and Ukraine, the Caucasus Mountains and Central Asia
> as far as the Aral Sea.
>
> Itil, about 800 miles south of Moscow, had a population of
> up to 60,000 and occupied 0.8 square miles of marshy plains
> southwest of the Russian Caspian Sea port of Astrakhan,
> Vasilyev said.
>
> It lay at a major junction of the Silk Road, the trade route
> between Europe and China, which "helped Khazars amass giant
> profits," he said.
>
> The Khazar empire was once a regional superpower, and
> Vasilyev said his team has found "luxurious collections" of
> well-preserved ceramics that help identify cultural ties of
> the Khazar state with Europe, the Byzantine Empire and even
> Northern Africa. They also found armor, wooden kitchenware,
> glass lamps and cups, jewelry and vessels for transporting
> precious balms dating back to the eighth and ninth
> centuries, he said.
>
> But a scholar in Israel, while calling the excavations
> interesting, said the challenge was to find Khazar
> inscriptions.
>
> "If they found a few buildings, or remains of buildings,
> that's interesting but does not make a big difference," said
> Dr. Simon Kraiz, an expert on Eastern European Jewry at
> Haifa University. "If they found Khazar writings, that would
> be very important."
>
> Vasilyev says no Jewish artifacts have been found at the
> site, and in general, most of what is known about the
> Khazars comes from chroniclers from other, sometimes
> competing cultures and empires.
>
> "We know a lot about them, and yet we know almost nothing:
> Jews wrote about them, and so did Russians, Georgians, and
> Armenians, to name a few," said Kraiz. "But from the Khazars
> themselves we have nearly nothing."
>
> The Khazars' ruling dynasty and nobility converted to
> Judaism sometime in the 8th or 9th centuries. Vasilyev said
> the limited number of Jewish religious artifacts such as
> mezuzas and Stars of David found at other Khazar sites prove
> that ordinary Khazars preferred traditional beliefs such as
> shamanism, or newly introduced religions including Islam.
>
> Yevgeny Satanovsky, director of the Middle Eastern Institute
> in Moscow, said he believes the Khazar elite chose Judaism
> out of political expediency - to remain independent of
> neighboring Muslim and Christian states. "They embraced
> Judaism because they wanted to remain neutral, like
> Switzerland these days," he said.
>
> In particular, he said, the Khazars opposed the Arab advance
> into the Caucasus Mountains and were instrumental in
> containing a Muslim push toward eastern Europe. He compared
> their role in eastern Europe to that of the French knights
> who defeated Arab forces at the Battle of Tours in France in
> 732.
>
> The Khazars succeeded in holding off the Arabs, but a young,
> expanding Russian state vanquished the Khazar empire in the
> late 10th century. Medieval Russian epic poems mention
> Russian warriors fighting the "Jewish Giant."
>
> "In many ways, Russia is a successor of the Khazar state,"
> Vasilyev said.
>
> He said his dig revealed traces of a large fire that was
> probably caused by the Russian conquest. He said Itil was
> rebuilt following the fall of the Khazar empire, when ethnic
> Khazars were slowly assimilated by Turkic-speaking tribes,
> Tatars and Mongols, who inhabited the city until it was
> flooded by the rising Caspian Sea around the 14th century.
>
> The study of the Khazar empire was discouraged in the Soviet
> Union. The dictator Josef Stalin, in particular, detested
> the idea that a Jewish empire had come before Russia's own.
> He ordered references to Khazar history removed from
> textbooks because they "disproved his theory of Russian
> statehood," Satanovsky said.
>
> Only now are Russian scholars free to explore Khazar
> culture. The Itil excavations have been sponsored by the
> Russian-Jewish Congress, a nonprofit organization that
> supports cultural projects in Russia.
>
> "Khazar studies are just beginning," Satanovsky said.
>
> Source (Yahoo!)
>
> ***
> Keep an eye on this article.. you won't see it on Yahoo! for
> very long, nor will you see it anything related to it in the
> future.
>
> As I have written in one of my previous posts, Arthur
> Koestler wrote a book in 1976 called The Thirteenth Tribe
> about the ancient Khazar empire. Being pressured by the
> Christians from the East and the Muslims from the West, in
> 940 AD, they decided to convert to Judaism, that way they
> did not have to answer to any of the previous groups. I
> don't remember the exact number, but it was a few million.
>
> The Khazars were Turks and by no means, Semitic. They are
> the Ashkenazi Jews, if any of you are familiar with that
> term. The majority of Jews today are Ashkenazi and I really
> wonder if God realizes his "chosen" people were not the ones
> he chose back in the day.
>
> It makes no difference, to us, though, since we have to obey
> God's law and give the Jews billions of dollars every year,
> just to stay on God's good side... right???
>
> Visit Jews Against Zionism to learn what real, Semitic Jews
> have to say about what some Ashkenazi Jews are doing in
> their name.
>
> http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
>
> Ever wonder why Israel's PM, Ehud Olmert has blue eyes?
>
> http://dianarn.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/discovery-of-lost-capital-unearths-more-about-ashkenazi-jews/
>
> Zionist Control of Britain's Government: 1940-2009
> By William A. Cook
>
> November 20, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- "After so
> many years of setting the tone, bribing UK politicians and
> controlling the BBC they (Zionists) are used to being
> untouchable." (Gilad Atzmon, "Britain Must de-Zionist Itself
> Immediately," Nov. 17, 2009, MWC News).
>
> This week the British people listened to the Daily Mall's
> Peter Oborne present, on Channel 4, his devastating account
> of the Jewish lobby's control of their government. Now we
> know that virtually all the principal politicians in the UK
> of both parties, like their brothers across the lake in our
> House and Senate, take "contributions" from the Israeli
> lobby machine ensuring that the Anglo-American mid-east
> policies follow the dictates of the Israeli government.
> Gilad Atzmon responded to this report in his article
> "Britain must de-Zionise itself immediately," noting that
> this control has been in place for so many years the lobby
> feels "untouchable."
>
> How many years are "many" one might ask? In 1941, the High
> Commissioner of Palestine, Harold MacMichael, Senior
> Palestine Mandate officer for the British Mandate forces in
> Palestine, sent the following "Top Secret" "Memorandum on
> the Participation of the Jewish National Institutions in
> Palestine in Acts of Lawlessness and Violence" to the
> Secretary of State, dated October 16th, a report prepared by
> The Palestine Police, Criminal Investigation Department:
>
> The memorandum illustrates-indeed, brings into full
> limelight-the fact that the Mandatory is faced potentially
> with as grave a danger in Palestine from Jewish violence as
> it ever faced from Arab violence, a danger infinitely less
> easy to meet by the methods of repression which have been
> employed against Arabs. In the first place, the Jews . have
> the moral and political support . of considerable sections
> of public opinion both in the United Kingdom and the United
> States of America . all the influence and political ability
> of the Zionists would be brought to bear to show that the
> Jews in Palestine were the victims of aggression, and that a
> substantial body of opinion abroad would be persuaded of the
> truth of the contention.
>
> Quite obviously, MacMichael understands that the Mandatory
> has little power at home over the zealous actions of the
> Zionists as they manipulate public and political opinion
> even as they expand their terrorism against the British
> Mandate government in Palestine. This is an untenable
> position to be in, responsible for government control and
> security of those under its authority, i.e. Palestinians as
> well as Jews, and knowing that the Jews are set on driving
> the British out of Palestine, and knowing that the home
> government can offer little help.
>
> The Zionists and their "gangs," a euphemism for well
> equipped and well trained military forces, launched a full
> scale terrorist rebellion against the British by robbing
> banks, indiscriminate killing of British police, and the
> assassination of British minister-resident Lord Moyne in
> 1944. By the end of World War II things got even worse: "The
> Haganah carried out anti-British military
> operations-liberation of interned immigrants from the Atlit
> camp; the bombing of the country's railroad network;
> sabotage raids on radar installations and bases of the
> British police mobile force; sabotage of British vessels .
> and the destruction of all road and railroad bridges on the
> borders." All of this terrorism was conducted against the
> Mandate Government while the home government remained silent
> under the pall of Israeli Zionist propaganda (Meir Pa'il,
> "From Hashomer to the Israel Defense Forces: Armed Jewish
> Defense in Palestine," World War II).
> www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/source/History/resist.htm.
>
> But recording the acts of terrorism does not do justice to
> the conditions the Mandate government faced. MacMichael
> describes the reality of the forces aligned against the
> police in Palestine.
>
> A second matter which deeply impressed me is the almost Nazi
> control exercised by the official Jewish organizations over
> the Jewish community, willy nilly, through the
> administration of funds from abroad, the issue of labor
> certificates in connection with the immigration quota, the
> forced contributions to funds and the power of the
> Histadruth. . The community is under the closed oligarchy of
> the Jewish official organizations which control Zionist
> policy and circumscribe the lives of the Jewish community in
> all directions.
>
> Perhaps one of the most frightening observations MacMichael
> makes comes at the very end of his dispatch: "As matters now
> stand it seems to me inevitable that the Zionist Juggernaut
> which has been created with such intensity of zeal for a
> Jewish national state will be the cause of very serious
> trouble in the Near East." Prophetic words indeed.
>
> The memorandum provided by the Palestine Police Department
> includes approximately 50 0 pages of seized documents from
> the Jewish Agency and related organizations. These documents
> reveal the intention of the Zionists that controlled
> operations in Palestine as they worked to force into
> existence a Jewish State. "We regard it as our duty to
> caution you against any attempt to decide on an anti-Zionist
> solution . We regard it as a duty to utter another warning.
> Do not postpone the political solution for ten years . The
> Jews are a nation. The land of Israel belongs to the people
> of Israel. The Jewish State will be established. It is
> better that it should be established with your help and for
> your benefit, than against you" (The Jewish Resistance
> Movement, March 25th, 1946, Rhodes House Archives).
>
> The Mandate Criminal Investigation Department was headed by
> Richard Catling. Catling's memorandum begins with an
> understanding of the "intricate Jewish political, social and
> economic structure in Palestine." A series of appendices
> chart these structures marking in passing that ". the
> Palestine Royal Commission Report of 1937 understood 'The
> Agency (Jewish) is obviously not a governing body; it can
> only advise and cooperate in a certain wide field.' But
> allied as it is with the Vaad Leumi, and commanding the
> allegiance of the great majority of the Jews in Palestine,
> it unquestionably exercises, both in Jerusalem and in
> London, a considerable influence on the conduct of
> government." Catling's frustration with the actual control
> of the Jews over British policy in Palestine glares through
> this document: "This powerful and efficient organization
> amounts in fact, to a government existing side by side with
> the Mandatory Government."
>
> The Zionist controlled Jewish Agency actively undermined the
> legal authority in Palestine even as it operated to
> undermine support for that government in Britain, placing UK
> forces in harms way as they attempted to fulfill their
> authorized responsibilities in Palestine. It also
> demonstrates the determination of the Agency's leadership in
> undermining the very nation that gave it a means of
> establishing a "homeland" in Palestine through the Balfour
> Declaration. The wording of that declaration is rarely
> presented in its full form: "His Majesty's government view
> with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home
> for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to
> facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly
> understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice
> the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish
> communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status
> enjoyed by Jews in any other country." The declaration did
> not intend to establish a Jewish State. Indeed, the wording,
> "national home," was used intentionally instead of "state."
> Additionally, the first draft referred to the principle
> 'that Palestine should be' reconstituted 'as the national
> home of the Jewish people.' In the final text, the word
> 'that' was replaced with 'in' to avoid committing all of
> Palestine to the Jews only.
>
> Now perhaps we can answer the question, "How many years has
> the British government been under the control of the Zionist
> influence?" Three score and ten, the biblical age. Perhaps
> it's time that Britain is reborn, free from the shackles
> that bind it to this corrupt power that flouts international
> law, wantonly commits crimes against humanity, and in brazen
> arrogance tells the Nations United to shove its demands to
> comply with the civilized communities of the world.
>
> (Note: Sir Richard C. Catling's files have been released to
> this writer by the chief Archivist of the Rhodes House
> Library of the Bodleian Libraries at Oxford University. Some
> of the material presented above comes from the
> "Introduction" of a yet to be published book due out this
> coming spring.)
>
> William A. Cook is a Professor of English at the University
> of La Verne in southern California and serves as editor and
> writer for multiple Internet publications. His published
> books include Tracking Deception: Bush Mid-East Policy, Hope
> Destroyed, Justice Denied: The Rape of Palestine, and The
> Chronicles of Nefaria, a novella. www.drwilliamacook.com.
>
> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24022.htm


>
>> You can say what you want about me but I don't want
>> another massacre in the gaza strip to happen.
>>>

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> what can I do for the people who are constantly being
> terrorized by Israel?

Some Thing Other Than No Thing

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>
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> >>
> >>> Israeli jets attack Gaza, 7 Palestinians injured
> >>> Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:55:46 GMT
> >>>
> >>> Israeli jets have carried out air strikes against targets in
> >>> the Gaza Strip, injuring seven Palestinians.
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, Palestinian medical workers and witnesses said
> >>> other areas targeted by Israeli planes included a caravan in
> >>> the northern Gaza Strip and smuggling tunnels in the south
> >>> under the border with Egypt, the New York Times reported.
> >>>
> >>> In addition, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported
> >>> that Israeli gunboats were approaching the coast of Gaza.
> >>>
> >>> The attacks occurred one day after Hamas said it had reached
> >>> an agreement with smaller armed groups in the territory to
> >>> halt sporadic rocket fire toward Israel.
> >
> >> Oh fuck not again.
> >
> > Nice of YOU to say so, I suppose.
> > Cold comfort though to The People under SIEGE!
> >
> Yeah I know but what can I do for the people who are constantly being
> terrorized by Israel?

You can tell them to stop allowing attacks to be launched, and the
Israelis would stop "terrorizing" them. It's so simple.

--

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> > what can I do for the people who are constantly being
> > terrorized by Israel?
>
> Some Thing Other Than No Thing
>


Sure, he can rave about the evil jews nonstop like you do. Or, he can
get a life.

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>> > what can I do for the people who are constantly being
>> > terrorized by Israel?
>>
>> Some Thing Other Than No Thing
>>
>
>
> Sure, he can rave about the evil jews nonstop like you do. Or, he can
> get a life.
> --
>

Only trouble is the Jews are not evil. Just the war criminals who run
Israel.

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Even if they tried to speak out about the hamas terrorists they would be
executed. The Gaza strip is a theocracy now.

BDK

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LOL. So they shouldn't be able to retaliate when rockets are launched
into Israel from Pal territory?

Government Shill #2

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War crimes for which you have repeatedly been asked to provide evidence,
and continually to fail to do so.

--
Shill #2

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reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no
matter how wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and
more ridiculous something is, however, the firmer and more solid the
evidence will have to be.
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>
>

Even if what you say is true, so what? It is the Palestinian people's job
to change their rulers. No one else's. If they are suffering it is a result
of their government's actions. It is *their* responsibility to change
*their* government. You can't blame the other side in the conflict, if the
peoples government is acting against the people's wishes.

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My Name

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> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:35:50 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2573f95be...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>>> In article <edudnSTnzdS0nJfW...@westnet.com.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CCBB9D40...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>> >> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CCABFCED...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>> >> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:XJGdnW0hRaLrQJXW...@westnet.com.au:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Israeli jets attack Gaza, 7 Palestinians injured
>>>> >>> Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:55:46 GMT
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Israeli jets have carried out air strikes against targets in
>>>> >>> the Gaza Strip, injuring seven Palestinians.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sunday, Palestinian medical workers and witnesses said
>>>> >>> other areas targeted by Israeli planes included a caravan in
>>>> >>> the northern Gaza Strip and smuggling tunnels in the south
>>>> >>> under the border with Egypt, the New York Times reported.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In addition, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported
>>>> >>> that Israeli gunboats were approaching the coast of Gaza.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The attacks occurred one day after Hamas said it had reached
>>>> >>> an agreement with smaller armed groups in the territory to
>>>> >>> halt sporadic rocket fire toward Israel.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Oh fuck not again.
>>>> >
>>>> > Nice of YOU to say so, I suppose.
>>>> > Cold comfort though to The People under SIEGE!
>>>> >
>>>> Yeah I know but what can I do for the people who are constantly being
>>>> terrorized by Israel?
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Thing Other Than No Thing
>>>>>
>>> You can tell them to stop allowing attacks to be launched, and the
>>> Israelis would stop "terrorizing" them. It's so simple.
>>>
>>Even if they tried to speak out about the hamas terrorists they would be
>>executed. The Gaza strip is a theocracy now.
>
> Even if what you say is true, so what? It is the Palestinian people's job
> to change their rulers. No one else's. If they are suffering it is a result
> of their government's actions. It is *their* responsibility to change
> *their* government. You can't blame the other side in the conflict, if the
> peoples government is acting against the people's wishes.

The AIRSTRIKES came DESPITE an ANNOUNCEMENT by Gaza's HAMA's
RULERS that the territory's MILITARY FACTIONS had ALL AGREED
TO STOP FIRING ROCKETS! "Israeli officials declined comment."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010327758_apmlisraelpalestinians.html?syndication=rss
http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=israeli+aircraft+strike+gaza+targets&aqo=&aqn=&kgs=0&kls=0&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=23&dto%5Bm%5D=11&dto%5By%5D=2009&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&lh=&nbq=50

My Name

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>
> You can tell them to stop allowing attacks to be launched,
> and the Israelis would stop "terrorizing" them.
> It's so simple.

The AIRSTRIKES came DESPITE an ANNOUNCEMENT by Gaza's HAMA's

RULERS that the territory's MILITARY FACTIONS had ALL AGREED
TO STOP FIRING ROCKETS! "Israeli officials declined comment."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010327758_apmlisraelpalestinians.html?syndication=rss
http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=israeli+aircraft+strike+gaza+targets&aqo=&aqn=&kgs=0&kls=0&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=23&dto%5Bm%5D=11&dto%5By%5D=2009&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&lh=&nbq=50

Seon Ferguson

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"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message

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> In article <ZNidnVWJxMHbypfW...@westnet.com.au>,
> seo...@gmail.com says...
>>
>>
>> "BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2573f99f8...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>> > In article <Xns9CCBD84F2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e-
>> > mail.com.invalid says...
>> >> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>> >> news:edudnSTnzdS0nJfW...@westnet.com.au:
>> >>
>> >> > what can I do for the people who are constantly being
>> >> > terrorized by Israel?
>> >>
>> >> Some Thing Other Than No Thing
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sure, he can rave about the evil jews nonstop like you do. Or, he can
>> > get a life.
>> > --
>> >
>> Only trouble is the Jews are not evil. Just the war criminals who run
>> Israel.
>>
>>
>
> LOL. So they shouldn't be able to retaliate when rockets are launched
> into Israel from Pal territory?
> --
>

When was the last time hamas fired rockets into Israel? it was before the
gaza strip slaughter. Don't give me this retaliation BS.

Seon Ferguson

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"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:34:59 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
>>news:MPG.2573f99f8...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>>> In article <Xns9CCBD84F2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e-
>>> mail.com.invalid says...
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>> news:edudnSTnzdS0nJfW...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>
>>>> > what can I do for the people who are constantly being
>>>> > terrorized by Israel?
>>>>
>>>> Some Thing Other Than No Thing
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, he can rave about the evil jews nonstop like you do. Or, he can
>>> get a life.
>>> --
>>>
>>Only trouble is the Jews are not evil. Just the war criminals who run
>>Israel.
>
> War crimes for which you have repeatedly been asked to provide evidence,
> and continually to fail to do so.
>

I repeatedly provide articles and you repeatedly run away or say "alleged"
so I give up.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:05:06 PM11/23/09
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"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Ok how? When will Hamas allow another free election to take place? If not
how do you overthrow mad men with guns? Every single civilian has to want to
do this. And Israel is partly to blame for the blockade but also Hamas.

BDK

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:07:37 PM11/23/09
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In article <Xns9CCC7D0D2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e-
mail.com.invalid says...

> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2573f95be...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> >
> > You can tell them to stop allowing attacks to be launched,
> > and the Israelis would stop "terrorizing" them.
> > It's so simple.
>
> The AIRSTRIKES came DESPITE an ANNOUNCEMENT by Gaza's HAMA's
> RULERS that the territory's MILITARY FACTIONS had ALL AGREED
> TO STOP FIRING ROCKETS! "Israeli officials declined comment."
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010327758_apmlisraelpalestinians.html?syndication=rss
> http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=israeli+aircraft+strike+gaza+targets&aqo=&aqn=&kgs=0&kls=0&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=23&dto%5Bm%5D=11&dto%5By%5D=2009&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&lh=&nbq=50
>

But they didn't STOP FIRING ROCKETS..you loon.

BDK

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:11:28 PM11/23/09
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In article <LIqdnVcZOeKAmpbW...@westnet.com.au>,
seo...@gmail.com says...
>
>
> "BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.25742f28b...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> > In article <ZNidnVWJxMHbypfW...@westnet.com.au>,
> > seo...@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >>
> >> "BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.2573f99f8...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> >> > In article <Xns9CCBD84F2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e-
> >> > mail.com.invalid says...
> >> >> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
> >> >> news:edudnSTnzdS0nJfW...@westnet.com.au:
> >> >>
> >> >> > what can I do for the people who are constantly being
> >> >> > terrorized by Israel?
> >> >>
> >> >> Some Thing Other Than No Thing
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sure, he can rave about the evil jews nonstop like you do. Or, he can
> >> > get a life.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> Only trouble is the Jews are not evil. Just the war criminals who run
> >> Israel.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > LOL. So they shouldn't be able to retaliate when rockets are launched
> > into Israel from Pal territory?
> > --
> >
> When was the last time hamas fired rockets into Israel? it was before the
> gaza strip slaughter. Don't give me this retaliation BS.
>
>

LOL, someone firing rockets (I don't know if it was Hamas or not) caused
the latest retaliation. This isn't that difficult, is it?

--

My Name

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:37:35 PM11/23/09
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> In article <Xns9CCC7D0D2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e- mail.com.invalid says...
>> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2573f95be...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> >
>> > You can tell them to stop allowing attacks to be launched,
>> > and the Israelis would stop "terrorizing" them.
>> > It's so simple.
>>
>> The AIRSTRIKES came DESPITE an ANNOUNCEMENT by Gaza's HAMA's
>> RULERS that the territory's MILITARY FACTIONS had ALL AGREED
>> TO STOP FIRING ROCKETS! "Israeli officials declined comment."
>>
>> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010327758_apmlisraelpalestinians.html?syndication=rss
>> http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=israeli+aircraft+strike+gaza+targets&aqo=&aqn=&kgs=0&kls=0&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=23&dto%5Bm%5D=11&dto%5By%5D=2009&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&lh=&nbq=50
>>
> But they didn't STOP FIRING ROCKETS.

RECRIMINATION! They did!
Untill the vicvious israeli jews atttacked again!

Off course, then they fired rockets again in retaliation for
vicious the unprovoked vicious israeli "jew" attacks.

What! They don't have a right to defend themselves from the
vicious israeli jew attacks?

Of course, the retaliation is what the vicious israeli jew
attackers were counting on to insure that there is no possible PEACE!
That way, the israeli jew land grab can continue unabated! OSISTM

Government Shill #2

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:13:56 AM11/24/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:05:06 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
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The way it has been done for thousands of years. Armed revolt.

>And Israel is partly to blame for the blockade but also Hamas.


Israel is protecting its interests. In a most restrained way. They *could*
be bombing the place into rubble. They are not doing that. They are making
it difficult for Hammas to run the place and, at the same time, increasing
the likelihood that the Palestinian people will see the Hammas won't beat
Israel and turn them out.

Government Shill #2

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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:03:40 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:a5hlg591fp4uenm6p...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:34:59 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
>>>news:MPG.2573f99f8...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>>>> In article <Xns9CCBD84F2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e-
>>>> mail.com.invalid says...
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>>> news:edudnSTnzdS0nJfW...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>
>>>>> > what can I do for the people who are constantly being
>>>>> > terrorized by Israel?
>>>>>
>>>>> Some Thing Other Than No Thing
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, he can rave about the evil jews nonstop like you do. Or, he can
>>>> get a life.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>Only trouble is the Jews are not evil. Just the war criminals who run
>>>Israel.
>>
>> War crimes for which you have repeatedly been asked to provide evidence,
>> and continually to fail to do so.
>>
>I repeatedly provide articles and you repeatedly run away or say "alleged"
>so I give up.


Newspaper articles are not evidence. They are hearsay. Hearsay does not
equal crimes. Try presenting hearsay to a court.

My Name

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:29:59 AM11/24/09
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> Israel is protecting its interests

Israel is: PEACE HINDERING, FOOT DRAGGING, LAND GRABBING!

My Name

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:20:57 AM11/24/09
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>
>>> War crimes for which you have repeatedly been asked to provide evidence,
>>> and continually to fail to do so.
>>>
>>I repeatedly provide articles and you repeatedly run away or say "alleged"
>>so I give up.
>
> Newspaper articles are not evidence. They are hearsay. Hearsay does not
> equal crimes. Try presenting hearsay to a court.

The GOLDSTONE REPORT supports Amnesty International's own
findings of war crimes.
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf

Seon Ferguson

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>> Government Shill #2 <gov....@gmail.com> related
>> news:qdumg556kh972kpkl...@4ax.com:
>>
>>>> War crimes for which you have repeatedly been asked to provide
>>>> evidence,
>>>> and continually to fail to do so.
>>>>
>>>I repeatedly provide articles and you repeatedly run away or say
>>>"alleged"
>>>so I give up.
>>
>> Newspaper articles are not evidence. They are hearsay. Hearsay does not
>> equal crimes. Try presenting hearsay to a court.
>
> The GOLDSTONE REPORT supports Amnesty International's own
> findings of war crimes.
> http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf

Good point My Name.

Seon Ferguson

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"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message

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When did they fire rockets?

Seon Ferguson

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Well that's not going to happen because the Israel lobby will make sure the
US never supports such actions. So in your eyes there will never be evidence
of Israel's war crimes.

Seon Ferguson

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Well there needs to be one soon before there is no longer anyone in the gaza
strip.

>
>>And Israel is partly to blame for the blockade but also Hamas.
>
>
> Israel is protecting its interests. In a most restrained way. They *could*
> be bombing the place into rubble. They are not doing that. They are making
> it difficult for Hammas to run the place and, at the same time, increasing
> the likelihood that the Palestinian people will see the Hammas won't beat
> Israel and turn them out.
>

Well if my family was murdered by Israeli bombs when I was at the markets I
wouldn't see it that way. I would fight Israel. I understand their motives.
I do not support killing innocent civilians. But I UNDERSTAND them. I also
understand Israel's motives but I think it is going too far.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:31:43 AM11/24/09
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Haven't you figured it out My Name? Only Israel has the right to defend it's
self. When anyone dares return fire it's terrorism (that was sarcasm btw)

BDK

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:53:24 AM11/24/09
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In article <KMGdnXxbQNghF5bW...@westnet.com.au>,

ROTFL! Figure it out. Is it really so hard? Really?

BDK

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:55:15 AM11/24/09
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In article <k6Gdnc4v3OmREZbW...@westnet.com.au>,
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BWHAHAHAHA! The kookside is calling again, isn't it Seon?

BDK

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mail.com.invalid says...
> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2574fbe0b...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> > In article <Xns9CCC7D0D2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e- mail.com.invalid says...
> >> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2573f95be...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> >> >
> >> > You can tell them to stop allowing attacks to be launched,
> >> > and the Israelis would stop "terrorizing" them.
> >> > It's so simple.
> >>
> >> The AIRSTRIKES came DESPITE an ANNOUNCEMENT by Gaza's HAMA's
> >> RULERS that the territory's MILITARY FACTIONS had ALL AGREED
> >> TO STOP FIRING ROCKETS! "Israeli officials declined comment."
> >>
> >> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010327758_apmlisraelpalestinians.html?syndication=rss
> >> http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=israeli+aircraft+strike+gaza+targets&aqo=&aqn=&kgs=0&kls=0&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=23&dto%5Bm%5D=11&dto%5By%5D=2009&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&lh=&nbq=50
> >>
> > But they didn't STOP FIRING ROCKETS.
>
> RECRIMINATION! They did!

Officially, yes, but in reality, something you are repelled by, it
didn't happen, the attacks continued..


> Untill the vicvious israeli jews atttacked again!

Retaliated again.

>
> Off course, then they fired rockets again in retaliation for
> vicious the unprovoked vicious israeli "jew" attacks.

No, but since you live to dream stuff up against jews, I'm sure you
believe they did.

>
> What! They don't have a right to defend themselves from the
> vicious israeli jew attacks?

LOL, if they would have actually stopped, they wouldn't need to
"defend" themselves. BTW, that aint what they are doing. Rockets aren't
a defensive type weapon. But you don't really care about that, do you?

>
> Of course, the retaliation is what the vicious israeli jew
> attackers were counting on to insure that there is no possible PEACE!
> That way, the israeli jew land grab can continue unabated! OSISTM
>

BWHAHAHAHAHAA! Insanity is your middle name.

BDK

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:03:06 AM11/24/09
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In article <WIqdnTmFda52FpbW...@westnet.com.au>,
seo...@gmail.com says...

Where are they going, to Disneyland?


>
> >
> >>And Israel is partly to blame for the blockade but also Hamas.
> >
> >
> > Israel is protecting its interests. In a most restrained way. They *could*
> > be bombing the place into rubble. They are not doing that. They are making
> > it difficult for Hammas to run the place and, at the same time, increasing
> > the likelihood that the Palestinian people will see the Hammas won't beat
> > Israel and turn them out.
> >
> Well if my family was murdered by Israeli bombs when I was at the markets I
> wouldn't see it that way. I would fight Israel. I understand their motives.
> I do not support killing innocent civilians. But I UNDERSTAND them. I also
> understand Israel's motives but I think it is going too far.

They are holding back in a big way, it would be simple for them to just
unload on any target they wanted to, and wipe out a whole area. What is
so hard for you to understand about this?

BDK

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:05:06 AM11/24/09
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In article <L_mdnazhE5VyF5bW...@westnet.com.au>,
seo...@gmail.com says...

Neither side is free of "war crimes", but I never see you whining about
the stuff the Pals do. I wonder why?

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:07:18 AM11/24/09
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>> When did they fire rockets?
>>
>
> ROTFL! Figure it out. Is it really so hard? Really?
> --
>

I mean recently.

And in reply to your other reply I thought I called Hamas terrorists and
said that the people of the gaza strip live in a theocracy. I don't go on
about Hamas because Hamas aren't blocking much needed humanitarian aid to
the gaza strip. Hamas are not preventing the people of the gaza strip to
rebuild houses destroyed by war criminals. I don't go on about Hamas because
in the gaza strip slaughter Israel killed more people than Hamas did from
firing it's pathetic rockets at Israel.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:07:57 AM11/24/09
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Get the shit bombed out of them by Israel.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:12:20 AM11/24/09
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"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message

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And the weapons Israel used in the gaza strip slaughter were defensive
weapons? Ok then...

Government Shill #2

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:36:37 AM11/24/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:27:40 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


What's not going to happen? Someone presenting hearsay to a court?

Did you read what I wrote? It seems not.

>So in your eyes there will never be evidence of Israel's war crimes.


No. READ what I wrote. *You* have not presented any evidence. You have
presented hearsay. When you have some evidence I will believe your claim of
"war crimes". Until then all you have is hearsay.

Government Shill #2

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:44:36 AM11/24/09
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>Neither side is free of "war crimes", but I never see you whining about
>the stuff the Pals do. I wonder why?


Besides which, what Seon sees as "war crimes" can nearly always be ascribed
to the "Shit Happens" fact of warfare. Sometimes shit just happens.

--
Shill #2

Taoism: Shit happens.
Buddhism: If shit happens, it is not really shit.
Zen Buddhism: What is the sound of shit happening?
Hinduism: This shit happened before.
Judaism: Why does shit always happen to us?
Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserved it.
Protestantism: Let shit happen to someone else.
T.V. Evangelism: Send more shit.
Rastafarianism: Let's smoke this shit, mon.
Atheism: No shit.

BDK

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No, dopey, they were offensive weapons targeted at specific sites. In
the real world, things and people are destroyed that aren't the actual
targets. Only in your dream world do planes dropping bombs and/or firing
missiles only break things they are actually targeting. Would you prefer
that the Israelis let loose with rockets fired in the general direction
of where the attacks come from? I'm sure they could do it if they wanted
to. That's another thing you just don't seem to get.

BDK

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There's hardly any danger of the population of the strip being even
substantially reduced, let alone wiped out. Stop being so over the top.

BDK

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Yeah, by Seon's "rules", every armed forces commits war crimes, every
time.

BDK

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>
>
> >> When did they fire rockets?
> >>
> >
> > ROTFL! Figure it out. Is it really so hard? Really?
> > --
> >
> I mean recently.

Dimbulb, they fired rockets just before the Israelis retaliated?

Damn Seon, is this really, truly, so damn hard to get? Maybe so, since
the Palestinians aren't getting it either.

>
> And in reply to your other reply I thought I called Hamas terrorists and
> said that the people of the gaza strip live in a theocracy. I don't go on
> about Hamas because Hamas aren't blocking much needed humanitarian aid to
> the gaza strip. Hamas are not preventing the people of the gaza strip to
> rebuild houses destroyed by war criminals. I don't go on about Hamas because
> in the gaza strip slaughter Israel killed more people than Hamas did from
> firing it's pathetic rockets at Israel.
>
>
>

So it's just by body count?

What about the Egyptians on their side of the border? They don't seem to
be doing anything bad, according to you, just the Israelis.

Government Shill #2

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>Yeah, by Seon's "rules", every armed forces commits war crimes, every
>time.


Seon has a problem with death in war. I agree with him on that. Death is a
bad thing. Where we differ is on the legality of it. I have a clue what the
laws are. Seon does not.

But then we all know that Seon is clueless on any number of subjects.

My Name

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> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:

> Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
> fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?

No! Burning, burying people alive, blowing them up with dense
inert metal explosives, DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel
razor sharp darts while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and
SHOOTING PEOPLE WAVING WHITE FLAGS is vastly preferable!

My Name

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>
> Only Israel has the right to defend it's self.
> When anyone dares return fire it's terrorism

GOOD POINT Seon Ferguson!

My Name

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>> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2574fbe0b...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> > In article <Xns9CCC7D0D2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e- mail.com.invalid says...
>> >> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2573f95be...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> >> >
>> >> > You can tell them to stop allowing attacks to be launched,
>> >> > and the Israelis would stop "terrorizing" them.
>> >> > It's so simple.
>> >>
>> >> The AIRSTRIKES came DESPITE an ANNOUNCEMENT by Gaza's HAMA's
>> >> RULERS that the territory's MILITARY FACTIONS had ALL AGREED
>> >> TO STOP FIRING ROCKETS! "Israeli officials declined comment."
>> >>
>> >> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010327758_apmlisraelpalestinians.html?syndication=rss
>> >> http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=israeli+aircraft+strike+gaza+targets&aqo=&aqn=&kgs=0&kls=0&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=23&dto%5Bm%5D=11&dto%5By%5D=2009&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&lh=&nbq=50
>> >>
>> > But they didn't STOP FIRING ROCKETS.
>>
>> RECRIMINATION! They did stop!
>
> Officially, yes, but in reality, something you are repelled by, it
> didn't happen, the attacks continued..
>
>> Untill the vicvious israeli jews atttacked again!
>
> Retaliated again.

RECRIMINATIONS! YOU jews LOVE YOUR RECRIMINATIONS as it allows
YOU to maintain the Status Quo and CONTINUE YOUR LAND GRABBING
while FOOT DRAGGING and PEACE HINDERING but, I won't play:
Which Came First, The Chicken, Or, The Egg? AKA:
Which Came First, The ATTACK, Or, The RETALIATION?

MAKE PEACE NOW!

UNTIL THEN, HERE, HAVE SOME: NEWS!

Israeli minister in Turkey to 'mend' ties
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:50:33 GMT

Benjamin Ben-Eliezer (L) shakes hands with Ahmet Davutoglu
before a meeting in Ankara.
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091124/tarapour20091124015732765.jpg

The Israeli trade minister begins an official visit to
Turkey in hopes of resolving strained bilateral ties with
Ankara and soliciting its help in talks with Syria.

Benjamin Ben Eliezer is the first Israeli cabinet member to
visit Turkey since relations soured over Tel Aviv's major
military assault on the Gaza Strip at the turn of the year
that killed over 1,400 Palestinians, including many women
and children.

Eliezer said that he is in Ankara to deliver a message to
Turkish leaders on behalf of his prime minister stating that
we want to "clear up the atmosphere" that clouds bilateral
relations.

He also expressed optimism, in a news conference in Ankara
Monday, that Turkey could help mend deteriorating relations
in the conflict between Israel and Syria, Anatolia news
agency reported.

His comments appeared to contradict Israeli Foreign Minister
Avigdor Liebermann, who said last weekend that Turkey's
attitude toward the Israeli government eliminated Ankara as
a possible mediator.

In Ankara, Ben Eliezer held talks with Deputy Prime Minister
Bulent Arinc and Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.

Davutoglu told the Israeli minister that the situation in
the Gaza Strip amounted to a humanitarian tragedy and that
Turkey expects the situation there to improve.

He also bemoaned the lack of progress in peace talks between
Israel and the Palestinians, as well as Syria, Anatolia
reported.

FTP/MB
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=112024&sectionid=351020204

2 killed, 4 injured in Israeli attack on Gaza
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:33:49 GMT

At least two Palestinians have been killed and four others
wounded in an Israeli attack on the Gaza Strip.

Gaza hospital sources announced the reception of two bodies
late on Monday, along with four other victims who had
received medium to critical injuries, after an Israeli tank
shelled the eastern Gaza city neighborhood of Shejaeya.

The shelling caused serious damage in the densely populated
area, reports say, but there are no more details on the
incident.

The latest attack comes two days after the Israeli military
launched a series of air raids on Gaza, wounding seven
people, including children.

GHN/HGL
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=112026&sectionid=351020202

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According to the survivors those weapons were weapons which are the kind of
weapons that would get any other country in trouble for using.

Seon Ferguson

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>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>> news:k6Gdnc4v3OmREZbW...@westnet.com.au:
>>
>> Only Israel has the right to defend it's self.
>> When anyone dares return fire it's terrorism
>
> GOOD POINT Seon Ferguson!
> --

Thanks I just hate hypocrisy. Like torture is evil but when America does it
it's good.

Seon Ferguson

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>> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related
>> news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>
>> Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
>> fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
>
> No! Burning, burying people alive, blowing them up with dense
> inert metal explosives, DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel
> razor sharp darts while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and
> SHOOTING PEOPLE WAVING WHITE FLAGS is vastly preferable!
> --

Yeah that's all defensive weapons. But shhh it's bad when the Muslims do it
but good when good old Israel does it.

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>>> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>>
>>> Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
>>> fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
>>
>> No! Burning people with white phosphorous, burying people
>> alive, blowing them up with dense inert metal explosives,
>> DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel razor sharp darts
>> while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and SHOOTING PEOPLE
>> WAVING WHITE FLAGS and PREGNANT WOMEN for 2 kills with 1
>> shot is vastly preferable!

>
> Yeah that's all defensive weapons. But shhh it's bad when the Muslims do it
> but good when good old Israel does it.

I've heard no reports of muslims doing those things!
In fact, the TOTAL ONE-SIDEDNESS of the SLAUGHTER of the 1,000
CIVILIANS MURDERED is of itself considered to be ONE of the
ATROCITIES of israel's "cast lead" from its' "IRON FIST"!
Israel dumps on THE PEOPLE of GAZA and HOLDS them UNDER SIEGE!
Meanwhile, someone fires "a bottle rocket" from Gaza which
USUALLY FALLS HARMLESSLY to the ground!

WAKE-UP!

National Prayer Network
DID YOU MISS 'MAKING GAZA SIMPLE FOR CHRISTIANS'?
By Rev. Ted Pike - 2 Feb 09

Distracted by events following the Obama inauguration, did
you miss our latest 10-minute video? Because it was released
the day after the inauguration, I'm afraid thousands did.

Short in length, it nevertheless packs a huge wallop. It
clearly and quickly explains the BIG issues behind conflict
in the Middle East. It's probably the fastest eye-opener you
can find to enlighten your media-brainwashed friends and
relatives.

View it now at www.truthtellers.org.

Video Script

Claims and counterclaims surround the recent crisis in Gaza.
Yet, we can't understand the right or wrong of events in the
troubled Mideast without knowing God's spiritual law about
Palestine. This law was repeatedly set forth over 3000 years
ago.

If you are a Christian, you must take the Bible very
seriously -- as the written word of God. Jesus said, "Heaven
and earth shall pass away, but My Word shall not pass away."
(Mark 13:31) This means the eternal truths laid down
thousands of years ago in Holy Scripture remain true.

Yet, many evangelical Christians say God's law no longer
applies to the modern state of Israel. What law am I talking
about? In the Old Testament, God repeatedly instructed His
people, the Israelites, that the land of Canaan was to be
holy. It could only be occupied by a holy, obedient people.
When they rebelled, God allowed them to be driven out. They
could only reenter in repentance. [1] God says that if
Israel rebels, "The Lord will scatter you among the
nations"(Deut. 4:27). But if they repent, "The Lord your God
will restore you from captivity" (Deut. 30:3).

God could not have been clearer. He even banned Moses from
entering the land - because Moses disobeyed Him on just one
point! If Christians today truly respected Scripture, they
would know God's conditional terms still apply. Those terms
are as binding today as in the time of Joshua or
Ezra-righteous men who led obedient Israelites into
Palestine.

Today, American Christians and Jews both believe the
opposite of the Bible. They say God no longer requires
obedience! Many millions of secular Jews got a green light
from evangelicals during the 20th century and returned to
Israel in disobedience of Old Testament law. Religious Jews
returned while rejecting their true Messiah, Jesus.

When I remind many Christians of God's conditional terms,
their logic goes into lockdown. Somehow they think God wants
a disobedient return! Evangelicals seem to believe He
reversed His original terms and now endorses mass return of
millions of Christ-rejecting Jews to Palestine. Obedience,
which once mattered so much, evidently means nothing to God
today!

Applying Scripture to Gaza

What does this have to do with the present crisis in Gaza
and the Mideast? Plenty.

Mass Jewish presence in Palestine violates God's law in the
same way that contact between two bare, electrified wires
creates tremendous conflict in the laws of electricity. It
explodes in a shower of sparks. In the same way, a
rebellious Jewish nation in Palestine creates an explosion
of strife. No human peace treaty or negotiations can ever
bring lasting peace.

From its beginning, Zionism was birthed in violence. Jewish
terrorists committed major atrocities against the
Palestinians in the months preceding and following
independence in 1948. On April 9, 1948, under orders from
future Prime Minister Menachim Begin, 250 sleeping Arab men,
women and children of the town of Deir Yassin were
slaughtered by Zionist Irgun terrorists. Their bodies were
hacked in pieces, many stuffed into a well. The
International Red Cross arrived, documenting the atrocity
even while the killing continued.

Then the Irgun terrorists proclaimed throughout Palestine
that any Arabs who remained would receive the same fate.
Eight hundred thousand native Palestinians fled Israel.
These innocent refugees were interned by Israel in squalid
concentration camps such as Gaza and the West Bank. They
still suffer there today. (See my article "Israel Founding:
Miracle or Land Grab?", 8/4/08 at www.truthtellers.org)

Is it surprising that after more than 60 years of
imprisonment, humiliation and deprivation by Israeli
overlords, many Palestinians have turned toward violence?
They are desperate to obtain not just freedom but the
attention of an indifferent world. The futile, senseless,
and counterproductive rocket attacks of Hamas are the
actions of a people frenzied by at least six decades of
endless oppression.

These rockets, which arch out of Gaza toward Israel, aren't
acts of effective war-making. They are like flares shot high
into the night sky from a sinking ship, whose passengers
desperately hope to attract notice and compassion.

True Christians have no business assisting a nation which
has driven human beings to such acts of desperate madness.
If we do, Scripture warns we "become partakers of their evil
deeds" (II John 1:11).
Someday Israel will be Humbled

Scripture is emphatic that someday Israel's present
counterfeit return will be demolished by the forces of
Antichrist. Out of the Great Tribulation, a remnant of
beleaguered disillusioned Jews will at last obey Christ.
Then and only then will He sanction their return to
Palestine. At Christ's return, these Jews will give God the
same obedience Abraham gave, and He will endorse their
occupation of a land promised to Abraham.

Until then, Christians are way out of line in bidding
Godspeed to the bully of the Mideast: Israel. It is long
overdue for Christians to stop sending tens of millions of
dollars to this oppressor. Instead, Christians should speed
with compassion toward the suffering Palestinians, a proud
people sinking lower in their sea of despair. We should
protest Israel's continuing oppressions. We should also help
alleviate the poverty and hopelessness which drives the
Palestinians to desperate violence.

Christ described the Good Samaritan's mercy on the wounded,
robbed traveler thrown into a ditch and ignored. Today, the
Palestinians have been robbed by Israel of their ancestral
lands, dignity, and freedom. Israel has thrown them into a
ditch of contempt in the eyes of self-righteous Jews and
Christians who ignore them. No one should exist beyond
Christian mercy, including the Palestinians. The Good
Samaritan broke ranks with established norms of acceptable
compassion. He extended hands of mercy to a victim who
symbolized the Palestinians of today.

It is time that Christians identify not with a nation of
robbers who cast people in the ditch to die but with the
Good Samaritan who revealed God's astonishing love and
mercy.

Christian, are you like the self-righteous Levites and
Pharisees who passed the man by? Or do you have the same
compassion as the Good Samaritan?

Endnote:

1. Passages laying down God's terms of conditional
occupation include Leviticus 18:28, 26:27-46, Numbers 14:23,
Deuteronomy 4:26-27, 6:18, 7:12, 8:21, 25, 37, 41, 63, 64,
28:58-64, 29:28, 31:3, 18, Ezekiel 13:9, and Jeremiah 29:13.

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/didyoumissmakinggaza.htm

National Prayer Network
ISRAEL'S FOUNDING: MIRACLE OR LAND GRAB?
By Rev. Ted Pike - 4 Aug 08

Recent articles in Israel's daily Ha'aretz sharply
criticize Israel's failure to effectively punish violence of
Israeli settlers against Palestinians.

Ha'aretz says of Jewish settlers that "the coexistence
approach often seems to make way for violent struggle that
aims to deprive the Palestinians of their land." Jewish
settlers "openly discuss their intention of making the lives
of Arab residents a misery and pushing them out." Israeli
media has reported a number of violent attacks by settlers
on Palestinians this spring. Yet Ha'aretz complains, "Even
those that are heard by a court usually end in acquittal or
a light sentence."

The Israeli human rights group Yesh Din "argues that police
in the West Bank have failed in completing investigations on
suspected attacks against Palestinians there." "The weak arm
[of the law] avoids enforcing laws on Israelis living in the
West Bank, causing the State of Israel to violate its
ethical and international obligations vis-�-vis the
population under our control."

Historic Injustice

Is such official injustice toward Palestinians a recent
phenomenon in Israel? Hardly. Israel was birthed through
terrorizing and expelling Palestinians from their ancestral
lands.

Of course, Israel denies it expelled the Palestinians. They
say the 800,000 indigenous Palestinians who fled Israel
during the 1948 Arab-Israel war deserved to lose their
properties; they were disloyal to the emerging State of
Israel, defecting to Israel's Arab enemies at a crucial,
vulnerable moment in Israel's struggle for nationhood.

Israel says that the Palestinians eagerly obeyed when Arab
generals urged the Palestinians to vacate Israel so that the
Jews could be slaughtered and driven into the sea. Such
refugees, Israel alleges, were confident the conquering
Arabs would return their land and property -- and more, once
the Zionist experiment in Palestine was destroyed.
Considering such alleged treachery, to this moment Israel
remains adamant that no property of refugees who fled in
1948 will be returned to them.

What Really Happened

Let's turn from propaganda to reality. Here's what really
happened in 1948.

In his book The Revolt, 1 former Prime Minister Menachem
Begin, then head of the Zionist terror organization Irgun,
recounts how Irgun fighters attacked the small Arab town of
Deir Yassin east of Jerusalem on April 9, 1948. Begin
ridicules the "Arab hysteria" that says Irgun massacred its
inhabitants. Yet the International Red Cross was on the
scene, even as the butchery continued, counting the maimed
and dismembered corpses of 250 men, women, and children.
Their representative counted 150 bodies stuffed inside a
well. The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem 2 says, "Of
those 250 people, 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in their
abdomens while still alive. 52 children were maimed under
the eyes of their own mothers, and then they were slain and
their heads cut off. Their mothers were in turn massacred
and their bodies mutilated." (p.271) (See, Israel: Founded
on Terror)

Word of this atrocity quickly spread throughout Palestinian
Arabs, causing terrified awe and panic before the ferocity
of Irgun. Irgun trucks, mounted with loud-speakers, drove
throughout Arab communities, proclaiming in Arabic that if
the inhabitants did not flee immediately they would soon
experience the same horrific fate. Irgun also loaded trucks
with the surviving Muslim women of Deir Yassin, parading
them naked through the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem. 3 Such
humiliation and insult to Muslim morals and womanhood
intensified the searing effect of the massacre. It
heightened the mystique that Zionist terrorists were cruel
and vindictive beyond imagination.

Begin Tells All -- Almost

Begin, mixing lies with reality, explains further: "The
enemy propaganda was designed to besmirch our name. In the
result it helped us. Panic overwhelmed the Arabs of Eretz
Israel." He tells of strategic Arab towns, resistant to
Irgun attacks, suddenly evacuated. "In the rest of the
country, too, the Arabs began to flee in terror, even before
they clashed with the Jewish forces. Not what happened at
Dir Yassin, but what was invented about Dir Yassin, helped
to carve the way to our decisive victories on the
battlefield. The legend of Dir Yassin helped us in
particular in the saving of Tiberius and conquest of Haifa."
"Arab headquarters at Ramallah broadcast a crude atrocity
story, alleging indiscriminate massacre by Irgun troops of
about 240 men, women, and children in Dir Yassin." 4

Begin confirms that indeed word of what happened at Deir
Yassin induced Arab commanders to instruct Palestinians to
flee. But it was not primarily to avoid the violence of Arab
destruction of Israel. At first, Arab leaders commanded
Palestinians to stay put. But as butchery by Zionists
escalated, most acceded to the fact that the Zionists were
so capable of such unrestrained atrocities and carnage that
literally no Arab was safe in Palestine. A large part of the
purpose of the Arab invasion was not just to restore
Palestinians to their property but to insure that many more
Deir Yassins would not happen in the months ahead. In fact,
in the six months following Deir Yassin Zionist troops
committed at least nine more massacres against Palestinians,
with the Arabs striking back with two against Jews. 5

Begin concludes, "Arabs throughout the country, induced to
believe wild tales of "Irgun butchery," were seized with
limitless panic and started to flee for their lives. This
mass flight soon developed into a maddened, uncontrollable
stampede. Of the about 800,000 Arabs who lived on the
present territory of the State of Israel, only some 165,000
are still there. The political and economic significance of
this development can hardly be overestimated." 6

Zionists Give Chase

Zionist forces, realizing a tremendous opportunity, used
whatever means necessary to persuade Arabs to join the
stampede. The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem presents
dozens of contemporary accounts, largely from Israelis,
describing the Zionist-induced panic of the Arabs and
resultant carnage. The preferred strategy was to convince
Palestinians that, in view of the present "national
emergency" posed by invading Arab armies, Israeli Arabs
should flee until hostilities subsided. They could then
return to their properties. Of course, this proved a lie. If
that stratagem failed, whole Palestinian towns were given
the ultimatum to flee immediately, taking only the clothes
on their backs. Those who delayed, or attempted to bring
belongings, were shot.

Palestinian towns were bombed and strafed from the air.
Leaflets threatening massacre were dropped from airplanes.
Arabs were mowed down in the streets by machine gun fire.
With 800,000 Arabs in flight, the surrounding Jewish
population descended on evacuated Arab towns, ransacking and
looting their homes and businesses. In fact, a small "new
rich class" was established in Israel as Jews actively
bought, sold, and traded the wealth of hundreds of Arab
cities, towns, and villages. Meanwhile, many Zionist
soldiers robbed fleeing Arabs and raped Arab women. It was
imperative to the Zionists that Arab property was destroyed
as much as possible, to prevent them from returning. 7

With exodus of the majority of Arabs from Palestine, Begin
says the struggle to create a unified state of Israel was
largely won. Twelve cities or major towns and 830 small
towns and villages were occupied by Zionists. Most were soon
bulldozed, replaced by modern Jewish towns or kibbutzes.
They were given Jewish names, their original ones soon
forgotten. 8 In the decades that followed, Israeli
propaganda encouraged the world to believe the original Arab
towns never existed. In fact, it says today that before the
Israelis created the towns now bearing Jewish names
Palestine was empty, virtually deserted land. It says that,
untended and underdeveloped by a tiny indolent Arab
population, the many Jewish towns, collectives, orchards,
and fields in Israel are a testament to fulfillment of
divine prophecy that God would make Israel "blossom as the
rose."

Who Gave Victory to Israel?

In defense of their Palestinian brethren, the Arab armies at
first prevailed over Zionist forces. But then, in what
Zionists and evangelicals describe as one of the very
greatest miracles of divine intervention on behalf of
Israel, Zionists rallied and were able to repulse the Arabs.

In reality, it was not God but Joseph Stalin who delivered
Israel. (This was the same Stalin who, 15 years earlier,
systematically starved to death five million Ukrainian
Kulaks. Their crime? They wanted to grow vegetables in their
backyards for themselves, not collectives.) Stalin
personally ordered the Skoda Works in communist
Czechoslovakia to send massive shipments of the latest arms,
equipment, and fighter planes to help Israel in her time of
need. Such military firepower, not the power of God or a
righteous cause, empowered Israel to prevail.

Most evangelicals believe that mass exodus of the Arabs,
making room for "God's chosen people" to dwell in their
promised land, plus Israel's victory over vastly
outnumbering Arab armies, are two of the greatest miracles
of history, making possible Israel's prophesied rebirth as a
nation. Zionists, both Jewish and evangelical, believe these
are undeniable proofs that God fought and still fights for
His people, as in the Old Testament. As a result, Christian
America should unflinchingly support Israel today, right or
wrong.

We see, however, that Israel was founded by terror and the
deviousness of the most wicked men, not God. Her rebirth as
a nation happened not because of heaven-sent successes but
as a result of something very different:

What the Bible calls "lying wonders" of the last days that
"deceive, if possible, even the elect." 9

Endnotes:

1. The Revolt, Menachim Begin, Henry Schuman, NY, 1951

2. The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem,
Intercontinental Books, 1991. This definitive work by
Christian Palestinian lawyer and diplomat Dr. Issa Nakhleh
is available in most university libraries.

3. Ibid, p. 271

4. The Revolt, p. 164

5. Israeli historian Benny Morris chronicles massacres by
Jewish or Arab terrorists of at least 10 civilians or
disarmed soldiers in the months following Deir Yassin.
Israel committed many more slaughters of unarmed Palestinian
townspeople but under the cover of a "military operation."

A. Massacres of Arabs by Jews:
Qalunya, April 12, 1948 -- 14.
Ein al Zeitun, May 3, 1948 -- 37 to 70.
Abu Shusha, May 14, 1948 -- estimated at 60 to 70.
Al-Kavri, May 21, 1948 -- undetermined.
Al-Dawayima, October 29, 1948 -- 80 to 100.
Sassaf, October 29, 1948 -- 50 to 70 (?).
Saliha, October 30, 1948 -- 60 to 80.
Hula, October 1948 -- 35 to 50.
Arab al-Mawasi, November 2, 1948 -- 14.

B. Massacres of Jews by Arabs:
Hadassah medical convoy, April 13, 1948 -- 78 (Arabs claimed
the convoy actually carried arms and explosives).
Kfar Etzion, May 13, 1948 -- 50 to 120.

(Wikipedia, "List of Massacres Committed during the 1948
Arab-Israeli War)

6. The Revolt, p. 164. In 1914, at the beginning of Zionist
presence in Palestine, the census showed there were 606,619
non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine. Contrary to Begin's
figure of 800,000 non-Jews in Palestine at the time of the
Deir Yassin massacre, there were an estimated 1,440,274.

7. The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem, p.251-68

8. Ibid, p.234

9. 2 Thess. 2:9, Matt. 24:24

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/israelsfoundingmiraclelandgrab.htm
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Didn't I hear Muslims used human shields once? If so I stand corrected.

> National Prayer Network
> DID YOU MISS 'MAKING GAZA SIMPLE FOR CHRISTIANS'?
> By Rev. Ted Pike - 2 Feb 09
>

No but I do know that during the 2006 war crimes committed by Israel they
bombed the crap out of Christian town's.

> ethical and international obligations vis-.-vis the

My Name

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> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CCDB62A4...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:QpGdne0ptuEc65HW...@westnet.com.au:
>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CCD7CD8E...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
>>>>> fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
>>>>
>>>> No! Burning people with white phosphorous, burying people
>>>> alive, blowing them up with dense inert metal explosives,
>>>> DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel razor sharp darts
>>>> while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and SHOOTING PEOPLE
>>>> WAVING WHITE FLAGS and PREGNANT WOMEN for 2 kills with 1
>>>> shot is vastly preferable!
>>>
>>> Yeah that's all defensive weapons. But shhh it's bad when the Muslims do
>>> it but good when good old Israel does it.
>>
>> I've heard no reports of muslims doing those things!
>> In fact, the TOTAL ONE-SIDEDNESS of the SLAUGHTER of the 1,000
>> CIVILIANS MURDERED is of itself considered to be ONE of the
>> ATROCITIES of israel's "cast lead" from its' "IRON FIST"!
>> Israel dumps on THE PEOPLE of GAZA and HOLDS them UNDER SIEGE!
>> Meanwhile, someone fires "a bottle rocket" from Gaza which
>> USUALLY FALLS HARMLESSLY to the ground!
>>
>> WAKE-UP!
>>
> Didn't I hear Muslims used human shields once? If so I stand corrected.

As I recall it wasn't verified by either Amnesty InterNational's Report:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/015/2009/en/8f299083-9a74-4853-860f-0563725e633a/mde150152009en.pdf
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/MDE15/015/2009/en
Or, JUDGE Richard Goldstone's:
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/FactFindingMission.htm

>> National Prayer Network
>> DID YOU MISS 'MAKING GAZA SIMPLE FOR CHRISTIANS'?
>> By Rev. Ted Pike - 2 Feb 09
>>
> No but I do know that during the 2006 war crimes committed by Israel they
> bombed the crap out of Christian town's.

http://minnesotaindependent.com/49663/did-bachmann-read-the-goldstone-report-before-condemning-it
http://www.nogw.com/warcrimes.html
http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&nbq=50&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=Goldstone+Report.pdf&aqo=&aqn=scribd&kgs=0&kls=0
http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&nbq=50&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=Goldstone%20Report.pdf&aqo=&aqn=scribd&kgs=0&kls=0&stq=50
http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&nbq=50&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=Goldstone%20Report.pdf&aqo=&aqn=scribd&kgs=0&kls=0&stq=100

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Good point. As I said I HEARD that. I'm not saying it is factually true and
perhaps you are right.

BDK

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In article <Xns9CCD7CD8E...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e-
mail.com.invalid says...

> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>
> > Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
> > fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
>
> No! Burning, burying people alive, blowing them up with dense
> inert metal explosives, DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel
> razor sharp darts while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and
> SHOOTING PEOPLE WAVING WHITE FLAGS is vastly preferable!

Wow, the madness has taken you over, hasn't it? You swallow every claim,
no matter how phoney it later proves to be..
>

--

BDK..reelin in the kooks.

BDK

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In article <QpGdne0ptuEc65HW...@westnet.com.au>,
seo...@gmail.com says...

>
>
> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CCD7CD8E...@walks.like.a.duck...
> >> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related
> >> news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> >
> >> Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
> >> fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
> >
> > No! Burning, burying people alive, blowing them up with dense
> > inert metal explosives, DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel
> > razor sharp darts while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and
> > SHOOTING PEOPLE WAVING WHITE FLAGS is vastly preferable!
> > --
> Yeah that's all defensive weapons. But shhh it's bad when the Muslims do it
> but good when good old Israel does it.

No moron, it's not good whoever does it! But your over the top claims
and ravings focusing only on on the bad stuff Israel does, while
ignoring the just as bad things the other side does just shows how
totally biased you are, as your sig shows so well with every insane post
you make.

>
> > A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
> > But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
> > for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
> > and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
> > if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
> > But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
> > If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that
> > darkness!
> > Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
> > and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is
> > light.
>
>

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BDK

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mail.com.invalid says...
> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.25755caae...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> > In article <Xns9CCCBCF7F...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
> >> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2574fbe0b...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> >> > In article <Xns9CCC7D0D2...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e- mail.com.invalid says...
> >> >> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2573f95be...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You can tell them to stop allowing attacks to be launched,
> >> >> > and the Israelis would stop "terrorizing" them.
> >> >> > It's so simple.
> >> >>
> >> >> The AIRSTRIKES came DESPITE an ANNOUNCEMENT by Gaza's HAMA's
> >> >> RULERS that the territory's MILITARY FACTIONS had ALL AGREED
> >> >> TO STOP FIRING ROCKETS! "Israeli officials declined comment."
> >> >>
> >> >> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010327758_apmlisraelpalestinians.html?syndication=rss
> >> >> http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=israeli+aircraft+strike+gaza+targets&aqo=&aqn=&kgs=0&kls=0&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=23&dto%5Bm%5D=11&dto%5By%5D=2009&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&lh=&nbq=50
> >> >>
> >> > But they didn't STOP FIRING ROCKETS.
> >>
> >> RECRIMINATION! They did stop!

No, they didn't.

> >
> > Officially, yes, but in reality, something you are repelled by, it
> > didn't happen, the attacks continued..
> >
> >> Untill the vicvious israeli jews atttacked again!
> >
> > Retaliated again.
>
> RECRIMINATIONS! YOU jews LOVE YOUR RECRIMINATIONS as it allows
> YOU to maintain the Status Quo and CONTINUE YOUR LAND GRABBING
> while FOOT DRAGGING and PEACE HINDERING but, I won't play:
> Which Came First, The Chicken, Or, The Egg? AKA:
> Which Came First, The ATTACK, Or, The RETALIATION?

Again, I'm still not a jew, not that it matters if you're even slightly
correct, or sane, when you go into rave mode.

>
> MAKE PEACE NOW!

Tell the Pals to stop the attacks, and the Israelis to stop building
settlements and maybe it can happen.

>
> UNTIL THEN, HERE, HAVE SOME: NEWS!

Yawwwwwn.

If the Pals are stupid, they will pay the price.

BDK

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In article <Oq6dnTxOBe_N65HW...@westnet.com.au>,

About the only weapons that would really get any country into real
trouble are chemical, bio, and nukes. That's about it. A country might
take flack for using cluster bombs, or land mines, but that's about all
that's going to happen. If the Pals had them, they would probably at
least have tried to use them. Strangely, the Israeli's seem to be able
to hold back and not use the really horrible stuff. I wonder if the Pals
would, if they ever got hold of them?

Seon Ferguson

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Hold back? except for the time they told people in the gaza strip to stay in
one house and it won't be bombed and end up bombing it...

Seon Ferguson

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In their eyes they are attacking a group of people that threw them out of
their own homes and occupied their country. Again in their eyes. I know
other groups (like the Otomen empire and the brittish etc) have colonized
Palestine.

BDK

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In article <OfKdndkJjv6afJHW...@westnet.com.au>,

Apparently you have no concept of what the Israelis are capable of doing
if they wanted to. It wouldn't be hard for them to pretty much destroy
Gaza, without using weapons of mass destruction. Between artillery,
rockets, missiles, dozens of different bombs, they could really fuck
Gaza up. Kill a whole lot of people. You know, they basically have every
toy the US has, with the exception of the F-22 fighter plane, and a few
other odds and ends. In a small area like Gaza, the destruction could be
near total.

It might help you out if you really had any idea what you're talking
about..for once.

Seon Ferguson

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I do, ok they use some restraint but that doesn't mean they are perfect.
Same with the terrorist group Hamas. Well Hamas doesn't use any
restraint...I kind of see your point now.

Government Shill #2

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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:52:50 -0500, BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:

>In article <QpGdne0ptuEc65HW...@westnet.com.au>,
>seo...@gmail.com says...
>>
>>
>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CCD7CD8E...@walks.like.a.duck...
>> >> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related
>> >> news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> >
>> >> Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
>> >> fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
>> >
>> > No! Burning, burying people alive, blowing them up with dense
>> > inert metal explosives, DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel
>> > razor sharp darts while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and
>> > SHOOTING PEOPLE WAVING WHITE FLAGS is vastly preferable!
>> > --
>> Yeah that's all defensive weapons. But shhh it's bad when the Muslims do it
>> but good when good old Israel does it.
>
>No moron, it's not good whoever does it! But your over the top claims
>and ravings focusing only on on the bad stuff Israel does, while
>ignoring the just as bad things the other side does just shows how
>totally biased you are, as your sig shows so well with every insane post
>you make.

Mate! I think you have Seon and NoName mixed up. Not hard to do, as they
both seem kOOky. Just different degrees of kOOkiness. And Seon has been
agreeing with NoName over the past day or so.

--
Shill #2

Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
theobviousgcashman

Government Shill #2

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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:47:16 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>


Yes. They have been holding back for months. There is a blockade in place.
There is not a full scale war going on. There could be. Instead, they are
holding back.

>except for the time they told people in the gaza strip to stay in
>one house and it won't be bombed and end up bombing it...


And you are yet to show that those that did the bombing were the same
people who told the people to stay in place, or that they even had any idea
there were people there.

Government Shill #2

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wrote:

>
>


No one has said they are perfect.

Is this another case of the voices in your head inserting words into other
people's mouths?


>Same with the terrorist group Hamas. Well Hamas doesn't use any
>restraint...I kind of see your point now.


I doubt it.

My Name

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> In article <Xns9CCD7CD8E...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...

>> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>>
>> > Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
>> > fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
>>
>> No! Burning people with white phosphorous, burying people
>> alive, blowing them up with dense inert metal explosives,
>> DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel razor sharp darts
>> while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and SHOOTING PEOPLE
>> WAVING WHITE FLAGS and PREGNANT WOMEN for 2 kills with 1
>> shot is vastly preferable!
>
> You swallow every claim,
> no matter how phoney it later proves to be..

LYING APOLOGIST SHILL! NOTHING HAS BEEN PROVEN "PHONEY" BUT,
EVERY WORD OUT OF _YOUR_ MOUTH, UP TO AND INCLUDING, YOUR:
YAWNS, LIAR! DISINTEREST, _IS NOT_ EXPRESSED BY: *RAPT ATTENTIVENESS!*

http://minnesotaindependent.com/49663/did-bachmann-read-the-goldstone-report-before-condemning-it

My Name

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> Government Shill #2 <gov....@gmail.com> related news:j2nqg5p8j8epauv9i...@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:52:50 -0500, BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:
>>In article <QpGdne0ptuEc65HW...@westnet.com.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CCD7CD8E...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>> >> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>>> >
>>> >> Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
>>> >> fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
>>> >
>>> > No! Burning people with white phosphorous, burying people
>>> > alive, blowing them up with dense inert metal explosives,
>>> > DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel razor sharp darts
>>> > while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and SHOOTING PEOPLE
>>> > WAVING WHITE FLAGS and PREGNANT WOMEN for 2 kills with 1
>>> > shot is vastly preferable!
>>>
>>> Yeah that's all defensive weapons. But shhh it's bad when the Muslims do it
>>> but good when good old Israel does it.
>>
>>No moron, it's not good whoever does it! But your over the top claims
>>and ravings focusing only on on the bad stuff Israel does, while
>>ignoring the just as bad things the other side does just shows how
>>totally biased you are, as your sig shows so well with every insane post
>>you make.

>>>> I've heard no reports of muslims doing those things!


>>>> In fact, the TOTAL ONE-SIDEDNESS of the SLAUGHTER of the 1,000
>>>> CIVILIANS MURDERED is of itself considered to be ONE of the
>>>> ATROCITIES of israel's "cast lead" from its' "IRON FIST"!
>>>> Israel dumps on THE PEOPLE of GAZA and HOLDS them UNDER SIEGE!
>>>> Meanwhile, someone fires "a bottle rocket" from Gaza which
>>>> USUALLY FALLS HARMLESSLY to the ground!

Amnesty InterNational's Report:

Be sure and view the picture of "whiskey pete" AKA White Phosphorous
Raining down from the heavens onto people at the end of the Amnesty
International's report pdf! And yeah, as white phosphorous is a
chemical. So, yep: it is a "chemical weapon" whose "indiscriminate use"
is a "War Crime!"

> Mate! I think you have Seon and NoName mixed up. Not hard to do, as they
> both seem kOOky. Just different degrees of kOOkiness. And Seon has been
> agreeing with NoName over the past day or so.

YOUR faux, and easily malleable, and persuadable, to YOUR side,
never-really-left-it, "opponent" sf will be back with YOU shortly,
punk-kins.

Interesting, how that there is NO REAL OPPOSITION to the
"OFFICIAL TRUTH" other than from myself.

Have I persuaded any of "THE MEN IN THE MIDDLE" who appear to
be the only ones who see my opposition yet?

Alternate Reality: TV it is what they want YOU to beLIEve!
Reality! NOT: TV!

America Is Totally, In The Dark, With No OPPOSING VIEWPOINT News!
What a SHAM! "Poll Numbers", like "elections", are now meaningless!
When they have nothing to do but look for a job,
will they figure it out?

Or, will all the "FREE" INTERNET PORN, and search engines that
can't find any OPPOSING VIEW or anything outside the US prevent
knowledge still? Consider 'em all RHETORICAL!
No one answer the majority of my questions, anyway!

You pentagon boys got it all locked-up
tighter than a pre-pubescent drum majorette!
--

BDK

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:32:17 PM11/25/09
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In article <0Judnc6Wu6M2jJDW...@westnet.com.au>,

Who said they were perfect?

> Same with the terrorist group Hamas. Well Hamas doesn't use any
> restraint...I kind of see your point now.

They use pretty much everything they have, luckily, both for them and
the Israelis, they don't have all that much. If they got hold of the
wrong thing, it would get very bad, very fast, and the people in Gaza
would pay most of the price for it.

--

BDK

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gov....@gmail.com says...


No, I was replying to "Myname", but it's just a matter of degree
difference sometimes anyway.

BDK

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Hey #2, hear that, you're a pentagon boy?

Man, is he far off target. But what else can be expected.

BDK

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In article <Xns9CCE71832...@walks.like.a.duck>, no@e-

Excellent foaming at the mouth kookrave. Nice job, kooker!!

--

BDK..

Seon Ferguson

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>> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related
>> news:MPG.25769cb1f...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> In article <Xns9CCD7CD8E...@walks.like.a.duck>,
>> n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
>>> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related
>>> news:MPG.2575f3222...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>>>
>>> > Would you prefer that the Israelis let loose with rockets
>>> > fired in the general direction of where the attacks come from?
>>>
>>> No! Burning people with white phosphorous, burying people
>>> alive, blowing them up with dense inert metal explosives,
>>> DIMEs or using FLECHETTES which expel razor sharp darts
>>> while using children as HUMAN SHIELDS and SHOOTING PEOPLE
>>> WAVING WHITE FLAGS and PREGNANT WOMEN for 2 kills with 1
>>> shot is vastly preferable!
>>
>> You swallow every claim,
>> no matter how phoney it later proves to be..
>
> LYING APOLOGIST SHILL! NOTHING HAS BEEN PROVEN "PHONEY" BUT,
> EVERY WORD OUT OF _YOUR_ MOUTH, UP TO AND INCLUDING, YOUR:
> YAWNS, LIAR! DISINTEREST, _IS NOT_ EXPRESSED BY: *RAPT ATTENTIVENESS!*
>

That is the tactic they use. Just because the Israel government (the real
leaders of Israel, Rothschild and his ink) is so powerful they don't allow
any war crimes trails to take place or any independent inquiries they think
"well no one has been convicted. So there's no evidence of war crimes"

Government Shill #2

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Of course! A lot of these kOOkers seem to have no idea of the world outside
the lower 48.

--
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Pay Section
Disinformation Directorate
Ministry of Information
European Division

BDK

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:15:36 PM11/26/09
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In article <g6btg5dfjt3j5idjc...@4ax.com>,
gov....@gmail.com says...

I wonder how many of them are saying, "48 what?" to themselves when they
read your post?

One of the loons that used to work where I did sent my boss "proof" that
Obama was born in Kenya. The proof is a kookpage, and when my boss told
him the only thing it proved was that he's a loon, he went into a nice
kookrant for 10 minutes on the phone. I'm trying to get the URL, but my
boss wiped his cookies and shit after looking at it, and can't remember
what it was called. He said it even had the horrible to read color
schemes that a lot of the old classic pages had.

Shit.

BDK

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:16:37 PM11/26/09
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In article <SJWdncBw4s_J_5PW...@westnet.com.au>,
seo...@gmail.com says...

Rothchild who?

>
> > Amnesty InterNational's Report:
> > http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/015/2009/en/8f299083-9a74-4853-860f-0563725e633a/mde150152009en.pdf
> > http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/MDE15/015/2009/en
> > JUDGE Richard Goldstone's:
> > http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf
> > http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/FactFindingMission.htm
> >
> > http://minnesotaindependent.com/49663/did-bachmann-read-the-goldstone-report-before-condemning-it
> > http://www.nogw.com/warcrimes.html
> > http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&nbq=50&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=Goldstone+Report.pdf&aqo=&aqn=scribd&kgs=0&kls=0
> > http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&nbq=50&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=Goldstone%20Report.pdf&aqo=&aqn=scribd&kgs=0&kls=0&stq=50
> > http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&dt=tmperiod&d2=0&filetype=&rc=dmn&swd=&nbq=50&pg=aq&aqmode=s&aqa=&aqp=Goldstone%20Report.pdf&aqo=&aqn=scribd&kgs=0&kls=0&stq=100
> > --
> > A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
> > But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
> > for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
> > and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
> > if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
> > But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
> > If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that
> > darkness!
> > Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
> > and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is
> > light.
>
>

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BDK..

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:31:27 PM11/26/09
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Rothschild and his ink????

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Shill #2

"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum

Government Shill #2

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:34:52 PM11/26/09
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>I wonder how many of them are saying, "48 what?" to themselves when they
>read your post?


Oh... is it not a common saying in those united states?


>One of the loons that used to work where I did sent my boss "proof" that
>Obama was born in Kenya. The proof is a kookpage, and when my boss told
>him the only thing it proved was that he's a loon, he went into a nice
>kookrant for 10 minutes on the phone. I'm trying to get the URL, but my
>boss wiped his cookies and shit after looking at it, and can't remember
>what it was called. He said it even had the horrible to read color
>schemes that a lot of the old classic pages had.
>
>Shit.


Never mind. There's an endless supply of kOOksites.

I remember the early days of the Internet. It was touted as the
"Information Superhighway". It's turned out to be a platform for every
nutcase to broadcast his/her loonity.

Loons and pornographers. At least the porn is worth the electrons.

BDK

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:49:32 PM11/26/09
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In article <9rltg5h7bbi9t33j3...@4ax.com>,
gov....@gmail.com says...

I got a phone call and forgot to ask him about that part!

Holy shit...how does he keep coming up with this stuff?

BDK

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:51:14 PM11/26/09
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In article <nsltg5h2nbtqvdn9d...@4ax.com>,

Porn drives every new kind of media. Always has, always will.

Government Shill #2

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:53:25 PM11/26/09
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>I got a phone call and forgot to ask him about that part!
>
>Holy shit...how does he keep coming up with this stuff?


He's a product of the modern education system.

Government Shill #2

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Nov 26, 2009, 3:15:22 PM11/26/09
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>Porn drives every new kind of media. Always has, always will.

Yeah! There's a classic scene in an English sitcom called "Coupling". Steve
stands up at a dinner party and explaining why men like lesbian porn movies
says:

"...Oh, because it's got naked women in it! Look, I like naked women! I'm a
bloke! I'm supposed to like them! We're born like that. We like naked women
as soon as we're pulled out of one. Halfway down the birth canal we're
already enjoying the view. Look, it's the four pillars of the male
heterosexual psyche. We like: naked women, stockings, lesbians, and Sean
Connery best as James Bond. Because that is what being a bloke is. And if
you don't like it, darling, join a film collective. I want to spend the
rest of my life with the woman at the end of the table here. But that does
not stop me wanting to see several thousand more naked bottoms before I
die. Because that's what being a bloke is. When Man invented fire, he
didn't say "Hey, let's cook!" He said: "Great! Now we can see naked bottoms
in the dark!" As soon as Caxton invented the printing press we were using
it to make pictures of - hey! - naked bottoms. We've turned the Internet
into an enormous international database of... naked bottoms. So, you see,
the story of male achievement through the ages, feeble though it may have
been, has been the story of our struggle to get a better look at your
bottoms."

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Shill #2

Cleavage. The one thing you can approve of whilst simultaneously looking
down upon.

BDK

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:16:23 AM11/27/09
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In article <n4ntg55t6djl60eb6...@4ax.com>,

Scary. Very scary.

BDK

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:18:04 AM11/27/09
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In article <t8otg5l2105l1p8nj...@4ax.com>,

Funny, and true!

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