Moving Forward

[sch...@austin.rr.com]

I was on the codetalks discussion today and notice a lack of attendance. I want to let people know IBM is still committed to ARIA despite the recent events. We have many, many products which incorporate Dojo and we are moving forward to adopt WAI-ARIA on our custom components. So, it is essential that we make sure that we have code examples, and full browser support. Also, we need to ensure that the code examples move to the W3C. I am cc'ing Mike Cooper at W3C so that he follows this thread and I hope will participate in this list.

So, going forward we need to get codetalks moving forward. It is one of the most important resources on the Web on ARIA and it is, currently, the place where W3C is going to take its code examples for candidate recommendation.

Aaron, what do you expect your participation to be in codetalks to be and who should we talk to regarding taking over responsibility getting testing results to Microsoft, Mozilla, etc.?
Also, I don't see names associated with any of the code samples. Do you have a list? How do we coordinate fixes?

If people find defects between the interaction between JAWS and IE 8 please let me know. I can try to get some of these resolved with Freedom Scientific. As for IE 8, I am happy to send issues to Microsoft on behalf of the W3C WAI-ARIA effort as IE support is one of the implementation examples we will like to use for Candidate Recommendation.

Stefan Schnabel (SAP) said he will continue to hold Wednesday calls for codetalks and IBM will continue to host the number. It would be great, Mike Cooper, if you could attend.

One caviat is that myself and the other W3C editors are heads down trying to get WAI-ARIA to last call - to put a stake in the sand. We are making excellent progress on this but it also means I may not be as responsive as I would like to be.

All the best,
Rich

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Richard Schwerdfeger
Round Rock, TX USA

[E.J. Zufelt]

Good morning,

1. In the coming days I will post some Orca results using the set of
ARIA test cases on the CodeTalks page.

2. As I have been going through the test cases I have found it
difficult to test. Some of the tests have poorly defined expected
behaviour and seem to be pages that incorporate many tests into one
page.

It would be nice to have single tests on single pages with well
defined expected behaviour so that we can get the most out of testing
and can report bugs to the correct party (widget developer, browser
developer, assistive technology developer).

HTH,
Everett

[David Bolter]

1. Awesome!
2. As you know, this is a community effort and people are contributing
what they have time to contribute. Any help with polish is
appreciated.

I'm fine with a goal of making the test pages more distinct.

cheers,
D

[E.J. Zufelt]

Good morning David,

Fully understood on that community effort bit.

For anyone on the list who has contributed a widget for testing, which
I grately appreciate, it would be nice for there to be well defined
behaviour. Even if there are a number of tests on one page (several
buttons, or several menus) it would be nice to have a textual
description of the expected behaviour that is not dependent on visual
elements like italics, etc. So if there are 10 buttons it would be
very helpful to know what each of those buttons should do. Some tests
are good at this, and some could use a bit of improvement to make the
task of testers a bit easier.

Thanks again,
Everett

[sch...@austin.rr.com]

Thank you Everett!

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Richard Schwerdfeger
Round Rock, TX USA

[Steven Faulkner]

Hi Everett,
I have been working my way through the ARIA roles (still have a lot to
go), providing tests, and results, it would great to add results for
ORCA to these:


ARIA User Input Widget role tests - Firefox 3 + Assistive Technology
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/aria-tests/user-input-widgets.html

Assistive Technology Navigation Support for ARIA User Input controls.
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/aria-tests/UIR-navigation-tests.html

ARIA Landmark role tests - Firefox 3 & Internet Explorer 8 + Assistive
Technology
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/landmarks.html

email me if you need any clarifications.

regards
steve faulkner

2009/1/28 E.J. Zufelt <eve...@zufelt.ca>:

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